Election how the left, won and lost

[Finder]

The Left wing.... In Canada so odd a fickle.
The Liberals Centre... Left and right.. deepending on the day you ask them.

The Bloq, mostly social democrats but with many conservative leaning MP's.

The NDP, Social democrats with many mad liberals, or centre liberals.

The Greens. Socially pretty left.

Given these numbers may change slightly.

30.1 (Lib)
10.5 (Bloq)
17.5 (NDP)
4.5 (Green)
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62.6%

Magority of Canadians here you could sat are Left of Centre.

CPC- A party with many Neo-cons and a few "Red Tory's"
36.3 (CPC)

This is what the Conservatives have to remember when they governor?

Let's Hope Harper has a henchman who give's him these number's and he rethinks some of his policies to reflect the magority of Canadians and not just the magority of Albertians. Hopefully Harper will see this and will be rewarded next election with more seats.

 

[Belinda Ryan]

Forever conservative Albertans.. funny that.. what has the federal government ever done for them....well , they will see how little it is now.. Harper will have to please the fat cats in Toronto.. just like all the others..

 

[FiveParadox]

I would assume then, Belinda Ryan, that you would be more in line with the Anti-confederate Party of 1867?

 

[Finder]

Toronto? you mean the city who is owed 27 million by Ottawa? Go ahead and pretend that Ottawa panders to Toronto. Toronto needs the money every since the f*cking Harris Government downloaded onto the city of Toronto.

 

[poligeek]

Yeah, where's my subway!!!

(York University graduate)

 

[Jay]

Toronto? you mean the city who is owed 27 million by Ottawa? Go ahead and pretend that Ottawa panders to Toronto. Toronto needs the money every since the f*cking Harris Government downloaded onto the city of Toronto.

After the payments from the Feds were cut.

 

[Calberty]

The only 'left' party in Canada is the NDP. The other parties you cite on the 'left' are hodgepodges. The forestry worker in rural Quebec, Alberta or Ontario might vote BQ, Cons, Lib. respectively but they are the same social profile....the philosophy of the party 'left or right' is not the principal variable why they vote in a particular way.

As for the 'Greens'. I'm disappointed. They blew it when they laid out a detailed platform on issues unrelated or tenuously linked to the environment. They lost credibilty with many middle class voters they need to attract if they ever wanted the environmental issue to shed the 'left-right' label. I'll probably go back to working within the Conservative party for environmental issues instead of naively hoping the Greens won't drift further into whacko-land.

 

[nomore]

As for the 'Greens'. I'm disappointed. They blew it when they laid out a detailed platform on issues unrelated or tenuously linked to the environment. They lost credibilty with many middle class voters they need to attract if they ever wanted the environmental issue to shed the 'left-right' label. I'll probably go back to working within the Conservative party for environmental issues instead of naively hoping the Greens won't drift further into whacko-land.

Funny, I thought the complete opposite. I think they significantly increased their credibility when they released a full platform. They managed to show they have the ability to govern on all issues of government.

If they ever hope to get a seat, they have to prove they can stand up for issues other than just environment, since there are many other issues that governments need to deal with.

 

[Calberty]

As for the 'Greens'. I'm disappointed. They blew it when they laid out a detailed platform on issues unrelated or tenuously linked to the environment. They lost credibilty with many middle class voters they need to attract if they ever wanted the environmental issue to shed the 'left-right' label. I'll probably go back to working within the Conservative party for environmental issues instead of naively hoping the Greens won't drift further into whacko-land.

Funny, I thought the complete opposite. I think they significantly increased their credibility when they released a full platform. They managed to show they have the ability to govern on all issues of government.

Many Green supporters don't give a hoot about the Greens, Cons, libs, etc. but care about the environment. Whatever it takes to maximize the environmental variable is where we'll put our efforts. It's unfortunate looking out for the environment gets bogged down in unrelated issues.

If they ever hope to get a seat, they have to prove they can stand up for issues other than just environment, since there are many other issues that governments need to deal with.

The reality is they are NOT going to govern. Voters know that and the party knows that. The Greens were doing much better here in Alberta until Harris unrolled his platform and a lot of my fiends (and me included) winced and rolled our eyes. I'm sure folks voted Green for a variety of reasons but myself and my friends voted for Green as a vote 'to raise the profile of the environmnetal issue' so it could be addressed on a national stage. Some Green support in Calgary Centre eroded when the specifics of the Green platform were aired. We get 'cliches' enough from the NDP and don't need to hear them from the Greens.

 

[poligeek]

It's so odd the perceptions of the Green Party, in some senses they are loosing to both ends. Here in Ontario they are viewed as radical "right-wingers" by a lot of people, and it appears out west they are still labled "left-wing".

I agree that it lends credibility to them rather than detracting when they put a full platform together. I acutally thought their platform was the most cohesive and consistenet and least resembled something quickly thrown together to appease issues that were polling well.

 

[nitzomoe]

Re: RE: Election how the left, won and lost

Yeah, where's my subway!!!

(York University graduate)

toronto is in need of a lot of investment in infrastructure after all the cuts. The city is actually pays out far too much that it never recieves, this fiscal chasm is at this moment at least $6.6 billion.

Too bad the stupid conservatives will invest only in roads instead of public transit. I really like toronto its too bad the conservatives came to power it looked like a turnaround was in order.

 

[nomore]

The reality is they are NOT going to govern. Voters know that and the party knows that. The Greens were doing much better here in Alberta until Harris unrolled his platform and a lot of my fiends (and me included) winced and rolled our eyes. I'm sure folks voted Green for a variety of reasons but myself and my friends voted for Green as a vote 'to raise the profile of the environmnetal issue' so it could be addressed on a national stage. Some Green support in Calgary Centre eroded when the specifics of the Green platform were aired. We get 'cliches' enough from the NDP and don't need to hear them from the Greens.

I think this all depends on your perspective.
I am not a green supporter, and I think the majority of non green supporters gave them more credibility when they came out with the complete platform.

But on the other hand, the support they originally had from people who were supporting them because of their environmental stance, felt alienated, or betrayed in some way, because they "strayed" from their original fundamental path.

Just my thoughts anyway.

 

[Calberty]

nomore:

You've hit the nail on the head.