Do the Native protesters in Caledonia have proof?

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justfred said:
The statement above says they leased the land. What would go with a lease, I am thinking like a “Lease Payment.” Has anyone ever know the first nations to pay for anything? Firstly, show us white folks the receipt for the lease payment being made, and secondly, if you are the person who leases the property, the lease allows you to use the land for the time that you pay the lease. It does not allow or imply ownership. Maybe the first nations should write this down.

I am wondering if the first nations keep saying that they own certain parcels of land and that the whitey’s should not be going on their land, then the reverse should be true. Make the first nations people get their ducks in line and they can stay on their land and not come on to the land owned by the balance of Canadians.
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Are you proposing that every First Nations person in Canada lives off of Governement funds? I'll have you know I have paid for everything I own with my hard earned money, and guess what I even pay taxes.
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If only things were this easy throughout the history of mankind, unfortunately it is not because if it were you would be living in Europe as we speak. Moreso great wars would not have been fought, great civilizations may have flourished rather than being destroyed by tyranny and greed.

Your logic is also flawed, then. There is evidence that supports a claim that Europeans, more specifically Vikings, existed in Canada before Aboriginals.. If things were different, you might be living in Asia.. read about the Bering Strait.
 

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I know all about the Bering land bridge that existed some 10,000+ years ago during the last glacial epoch, when was the earliest european contact? some 1,000 years ago. I think you missed the point of my post which was that people will always make claims on lands whether they are legit or not. The British, French, Spanish and Portuguese Empires made many claims on lands here in the americas whether it was leased, sold or siezed is hard to prove because little evidence exists from that time, moreso language and cultural barriers may have skewed things.
 

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Your logic is also flawed, then. There is evidence that supports a claim that Europeans, more specifically Vikings, existed in Canada before Aboriginals.. If things were different, you might be living in Asia.. read about the Bering Strait.

I have never heard any evidence to suggest that the Vikings were here before Natives, only that they were here before Columbus. The Natives have been here for at least 10,000 years and some people think much longer than that.
 

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By the way, wouldn't a better question to ask be does the government have proof that they owned the land?
Afterall, it was agreed via the Royal Proclamation of 1763 that the (currently disputed) land would be owned by the Natives, and that any land that the British wanted to expand upon would have to be bought from the Natives.
 

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Your logic is also flawed, then. There is evidence that supports a claim that Europeans, more specifically Vikings, existed in Canada before Aboriginals.. If things were different, you might be living in Asia.. read about the Bering Strait.

Vikings lived before Aboriginals. Nah, you got it all wrong Andem, my ancestors came in the 1000s and colonized the place first European people to do so but we packed our bags after about 20 to 30 years. It was too expensive, and clashes that occured.
 

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Do the Native protesters in Caledonia, Ontario have proof that the land is theirs?
[FONT=Arial, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif]Haudenosaunee Update Dec. 26/06[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif]No doubt about it! This partial update is regarding the land theft at Six Nations known as the “Plank Road”. It is expertly researched and put out by the Six Nations/Haudenosaunee Negotiating Team.

Hamilton/Port Dover Plank Road Update

(Caledonia Ontario – Six Nations of the Grand River Territory)

December 6, 2006

Overview

On June 18, 1987, Six Nations submitted the documentation to the Government of Canada verifying Six Nations’ ownership in the Hamilton/Port Dover Plank Road Lands. No response was received from Canada until 19 years later on November 03, 2006 as presented by the Department of Justice and only than as a result of the February 2006 Douglas Creek Land Reclamation.

Previously, every documented land claim put forward by Six Nations and counter researched by Canada was validated in Six Nations favor. The stumbling block in resolving these claims has been an acceptable process for Six Nations many complex and unique issues. Canada’s Specific Claims Policy “Outstanding Business” is policy based on the extinguishment of treaty rights and has been recognized by Canada and First Nations across Canada as a failure. Canada and the Assembly of First Nations attempted to revamp Canada’s failed Claims Policy between 1991-1993 and 1996-2002. Ontario’s present negotiator Jane Stewart when Minister of Indian and Northern Affairs for Canada had both the mandate to address and resolve Six Nations June 18, 1987 Hamilton/Port Dover Plank Road submission and establish a truly Independent Claims Tribunal to resolve Land Claims across Canada. She failed on both accounts.

Following the OKA crises of 1990, Canada attempted to address the failures of its Claims Policy and established the Indian Claims Commission (ICC) in 1991 as an alternative to litigation and to promote “in good faith” negotiations. Frustrated by the ICC’s inability to move forward land claim settlements, all the Commissioners of the Indian Claims Commission tendered their resignations on June 27, 1996. Canada’s present Minister of Indian and Northern Affairs; Jim Prentice was the Chairman of the Indian Claims Commission and also resigned.

Canada’s Specific Claims Policy “Outstanding Business” and the Indian Claims Commission continue to be used by Canada as its ineffective means to address land claims across Canada.

SUMMARY OF DOCUMENTATION AND ORAL EVIDENCE

On October 25, 1784 the Haldimand Treaty secured for the Six Nations Indians a metes and bounds tract of lands within Six Nations Beaver Hunting Grounds, 6 miles deep on each side of the Grand River beginning at Lake Erie and extending in that proportion to the head of the said river, which them and their posterity are to enjoy forever.

Legal Land Alienations

The Crown had legislated explicate instructions for the legal alienation of Indian Lands beginning in December 9, 1761; October 7, 1763; December 7, 1763; Royal Instructions of 1768; January 3, 1775; August 23, 1786; September 16, 1791; December 24, 1794 and May 1, 1812. The legislated requirements for the lawful surrender to sell the Hamilton/Port Dover Plank Road Lands have been acknowledged by Canada as having not been followed.

Notice to Trespassers and Squatters

The Crown had Legislation requiring that it protect Six Nations Lands from Trespass and Injury. The Crown attempted to fulfill its Lawful Duty to The Six Nations by issuing Public Notices in February 1, 1812 specific to Haldimand County forbidding White People from settling on Indian Land; November 20,1835 notifying settlers on the Hamilton and Port Dover Plank Road to apply for leases or face ejection and on January 22, 1844 notifying that all persons on Six Nations lands between the Townships of Brantford and Dunn are to remove themselves as well as those on the North side of the River or be prosecuted with the utmost rigor of the law.

The Grand River Navigation Company

In 1832 Legislation was passed by the Crown to incorporate the Grand River Navigation Company (GRNCo.) to make the Grand River Navigable from the feeder of the Welland Canal at Dunnville to Brantford and up river as far as Galt. The promoters of the GRNCo. decided that by making the Grand River navigable with locks, dams, milling sites and other improvements it would render the passage of rafts, boats and other crafts beneficial for the surrounding neighbors, access the most generous amount of timber for export and “eventually swindle the Indians out of their lands”.

As early as 1829, upon hearing of the proposal to dam the Grand River, Six Nations protested against such scheme. Protests continued by Six Nations against the works of the GRNCo. through out the life of the Company; but to no avail.

When approached to make loans to the GRNCo.the Lieutenant Governor proposed raising monies from the sales and leasing of Six Nations lands. In 1834 the Executive Council later approved transferring Six Nations Monies held in London England to be used by the GRNCo. and in other investments to create today’s Canada.

In 1838 the Government with the sanction of the Executive Council pledged the proceeds from the sale of all Six Nations lands to pay for the works of the GRNCo. It than became imperative for the Indian agents to secure the sale of Six Nations lands by any means to raise money to support the Grand River Navigation Company. Even with reports to the Indian Agents of hardship and starvation among families on Six Nations, Six Nations would have no say in the matter of their monies or lands being used by the GRNCo.

In 1907 A.G. Chisolm agreed to act on behalf of Six Nations and commence legal proceedings against the Crown for monies invested by the Crown in the Grand River Navigation Company. In 1927 Canada passed Legislation barring Indians from independently hiring lawyers to proceed with the prosecution of any legal proceedings against the Crown.

Leasing.

The concept of leasing the lands to White People for specific periods of time to one plow depth was an acceptable practice by Six Nations to get their lands cleared for their future use and for Six Nations to regain possession of the lands when the lease period ended. Government officials acknowledged that if we were to lease the lands it “would render the Six Nations of Indians the wealthiest proprietors in the Province.” The Crown further acknowledged that as relates to the lands along the Hamilton/Port Dover Plank Road “Six Nations Indians will not surrender to us in perpetuity and as we want the land it is surely better that we should get it as we can by leasing, than not to get it at all”.

On January 16, 1835 the Chiefs agreed that if it was necessary that both sides of the Road (Hamilton/Port Dover) should be settled they will permit a half mile on each side of that road to be leased to the whites for their Benefit. Six Nations conditions would not allow a Town Site to be established at the river crossing (Caledonia) no taverns or the sale of spirits are to be allowed and the rents will be increased every seven years for 21 years.

Despite constant pressures from Indian Agents whom had close friends and business associates interested in the works of the GRNCo. and Indian Agents dismissed from office for stealing Six Nations monies, the Six Nations were finally able to get a response from the Executive Council of Upper Canada in 1843 assuring the Six Nations that the Government had no wish to take any portion of their lands against their free wishes.

The Squatters

“Our white brethren look upon us not as the original possessors but intruders on a Soil which was granted to us” is how the Six Nations expressed their concerns in a January 9, 1844 petition to the Government.

Upon formal government inquiries it was concluded that inducements were promised the squatters on Six Nations lands by many senior Government Officials (one being Sir John Colborne the Lieutenant Governor whom was investing Six Nations monies without their consent in the GRNCo.) to “go on with your improvements you shall be protected”. The Supt. General of Indian Affairs reported receiving communications from White Persons Squatting on the Hamilton/Port Dover Plank Road that inducements were promoted by Lieutenant Governor Colborne and other Government Officials to locate them there with the promise that the Indians would be made to surrender the lands to them. The White People were flagrantly breaking the law with the assistance and support of Government Officials to the point that they, the squatters were dictating the terms, conditions and amount they were going to pay for the Six Nations lands they were squatting on.

The Hamilton/Port Dover Plank Road

“An Act to authorize the construction of a Road from Hamilton, in the Gore District to Port Dover in the London District” was passed on March 6, 1834. In fact construction of the road commenced before it was even legislated as the Six Nations questioned the authority of cutting the road through our lands at an Indian Council on February 4, 1834.

It was further pointed out that even though Sir John Colborne had promised to Six Nations that the road would not proceed; it did anyway.

Regardless of Six Nations wishes, the Hamilton/Port Dover Plank Road (Highway 6) exists today and no payment has ever made to Six Nations for the road as stipulated by the Legislation Incorporating the Hamilton/Port Dover Plank Road.

Conclusions

-There is no surrender document meeting the legal requirements for the lands identified as the Hamilton/Port Dover Plank Road Lands to be lawfully sold nor does Canada have such document registered in its Indian Lands Registry. However, if there is such a document (which we deny) evidence shows it would have been by the Crowns inducement and against the free wishes of the Six Nations Indians.

-The Crown was systematically inducing the sale of Six Nations lands without lawful surrenders and misappropriated land payments into the works of the Grand River Navigation Company (and other Government expenditures) against the constant protests of the Six Nations of the Grand River Indians.

-The Crown breached its Lawful Fiduciary to protect Six Nations Lands against Trespass and Injury and instead promoted and protected the Non-Natives whom were breaking the law.

-Six Nations never authorized the building of the Hamilton/Port Dover Plank Road across our lands nor have we ever been compensated for it being built.

In Peace and Friendship

Phil Monture

Six Nations/Haudenosaunee Negotiating Team

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[FONT=Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]27.12.2006 07:36:48[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif]Hazel's update 12/26/06[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif]MNN Dec. 27, 2006

Greetings!

It has been a few weeks since I last updated everyone and I have had people e-mailing wondering what is happening.

Before I begin, I need to ask that those of you who forward and post this to your blogs, PLEASE do not change it. I have had radio stations slandering me,
discrediting me, only to find out that they had been duped and someone had sent them a "so-called update", that had been drastically changed painting me out to be a racist etc. I write what I SEE, and while it may not be journalistically or
grammatically correct, it is MY thoughts and MY feelings. The message is being received and understood by everyone else who reads them, so there is no need to change them.

Perhaps this would also account for the Crown representatives who have been complaining about my updates to our Haudenesonne delegates. They do not like my updates and are concerned that they could be construed as coming from the
"negotiations". So as a matter of clarification, when I update the people, which IS what my job is, I update based on looking at things from the Eagles perspective. It is not from a politicians perspective, and it is not from the Chiefs or delegates
perspective. It is from the perspective of one who can bring herself away from the table of discussions and look onto the situation and look beyond the words that are being said, and look at the actions of the Crown and from that, put on paper the words from my heart and from my instincts, of what is really going on. So for the
federal government to have made issue with my updates, not just once, but several times, tells me that I AM DOING MY JOB! One thing I made clear at the beginning of my attending the meetings is that I report to the PEOPLE. There is no such thing as confidentiality when it comes to the Haudenesonne. Our people counsel in honesty
and openness and that is how we will continue. For us to state otherwise, will only lend to question what it is that we have to hide.

I report to the Clanmothers and Chiefs on what I am doing, and answer any questions that they have, and I will continue to do so. My obligation is to the People, and to keep them informed. These updates are for all of the Haudenesonne who are spread across Turtle Island and cannot attend meetings or council to be updated. They are for the millions of Onkwehonweh across the world who are reading and watching and counting on the
Haudenesonne to uphold their responsiblities to Creation in order to help bring about Justice for all the Onkwehonweh. More importantly, my updates are for the Creator. To do what I believe is what is the highest good of ALL concerned. Not in the interest of any individual or Nation. This is about the PEACE that was intended for ALL. I have been put on this earth to answer only to the Creator and to do the job that he set me on this earth to do. It is not for any one to question, it is between me and the Creator, and while some may not appreciate my perspective or my thoughts, OH WELL, cause I am not here to please anyone either.

Having said that, the first thing I have to take issue with, IS the Federal representatives reason for taking issue with my updates. Their concern was with my use of the word Genocide and how I refer to their actions as "the continuance of the
genocidal practices of the Crown". Well, HELLLLOOOO! Spot it you got it I say. Perhaps they took issue with the fact that it is the TRUTH, and while they might not like it, it is a FACT. One of their legal representatives is apparently Jewish and felt that my use of the word was inappropriate becuase of the suffering of the Jews at the hands of Hitler. Well as a matter of clarification, Hitler studied the Onkwehonweh and while I have been told that he liked how our people lived and how
our law worked, he also seen how Western Civilization treated the Onkwehonweh, and he modelled the treatment of the Jews after THAT and so YES!, Geneocide is an ugly word, but no one people can take ownership of the word, and those that do, need to study a bit more of where it comes from and how it even became a word in the english dictionary in the first place. It came from the treatment of the Onkwehonweh by those who invaded our homelands and tried to wipe us out for their own benefit and gain. So as far as I'm concerned, the Crown IS continuing with its genocidal practices because of its insistance on thinking it has some sort of governance over
our people, which they do not; and by their refusal to uphold the Treaties to which their ancestors swore to, which they are obligated to do. You can't just have it your way. They want us to acknowledge all of the agreements and treaties that
benefit their people, but the moment we remind them that that Silver Covenant Chain can rattle in both directions, they close their eyes and ears.

Well, our people are tired of it, and we are not going to tolerate it any longer. The Crown needs to
ensure that the representatives that they send to the table to talk, are one's that have the ability to make a decision, not one's that are there to bide time while they try to figure out a way to get out of it. Barbara McDougal herself told Teka
reporter Jim Windell that she is not there to negotiate or make decisions. So again, what is it that the taxpayers are paying these big dollars for???????????

For the last ten months they have been dancing around and talking about everything BUT the issue at hand. The Land. We've talked about blockades, fences, buffer zones, governance, 4-wheelers, flashing lights and flags. When are we going to get
to the heart of everything. You stole our land, we've proven it. What is there to negotiate? We took it back and there is nothing to talk about other then when are you giving the rest back. Or do we have to come and take that too? When have you ever seen a car thief negotiate with the owner over when and how to give it back. This whole process is ridculous! All I know is that the People are getting tired of being led down the garden path once again and in July when the barricades came down, we gave our delegates a few months to deal with it. It has been well
past a few months and it is time that the Crown representatives remembered that the delegates that have been chosen to sit at the table with them are exactly that, delegates. I have heard our delegates remind the Crown representatives that they can only hold the people back for so long. I know that the PEOPLE are definitely not happy about the apparent lack of good will on the part of the Crown, and if the people so choose, we may have to send in more convincing delegates to get the message across.

And talk about messages. Gary McHale has been on a campaign to prove that there is a two-tiered justice system when it comes to the Native people and he has finally proven himself right. He is a walking talking evidence of the two tiered justice
that exists within Canada's so called democracy and its treatment of native people. He has been weebling in and out of the reclamation situation by holding marches, demonstrations, and setting up his web page campaign to try and undermine our
people's position, and to get out his propoganda. His latest venture was using the Canadian Troops with his flag campaign. Well, he got what he wanted. He proved that there IS a two-tiered justice. Gary was arrested and released WITHOUT
condition. Every single "Native" person that was arrested with respect to the reclamation of OUR lands near Caledonia, had the condition "not to return to Douglas Creek" as part of their release. If the Crown's agents of the Courts really wanted
Gary McHale to go away and stop interfering in what is NONE OF HIS BUSINESS, they could have easily directed him with the same conditions as our people have been given. Stay away from Douglas Creek. I guess the Crown doesn't want him to stay
away because with the Gary McHales of the world, there is no guarantee of PEACE, and he has been given a "get out of jail free card" to allow him the freedom to continue to manipulate and undermine the Peace by instigating trouble. Good job Gary, thanks for proving our point.

Along side of Gary McHale are the homeowners who claim that the "Native's from the Site" broke into their home and vandalized it. They have Mayor Trainer of Caledonia and MP Toby Barrett going on national television, and in their house of commons
blaming our people for the vandalism and continuing with their claims that there is no peace within Caledonia, and that they are constantly being terrorized. It does'nt take a genious to figure out that perhaps there is some dirty pool going on
with this so-called break in. First of all, if there was truly a break-in and vandalism, WHY would you compromise the evidence by inviting CH TV Channel 11 in to take footage, and have half the neighbourhood in there trapsing through and
eliminating any chance of the police being able to do a thorough investigation because you've compromised the crime scene. Also, if it was one of our people from the site, there should be alot of mud in the crime scene and foot prints leading to
and from the house as they claim the 'individuals' ran out the back when they got home and went into the reclamation site. Our men did our own investigation and can clearly see there were no footprints leading to or from the house from the site, and for all of those who came to the site when the homeowners had the media and their
supporters there claiming the natives had broken in, calling us names and holding signs that read "Peaceful People my Ass", everyone who was on the site had their shoe sizes enhanced by a couple of sizes from the mud that caked on their shoes from walking in the field next to the house, so don't tell me that anyone from the site did this. It was a staged set up, and poorly done I might add. They're either stupid or think we are. Our people are fully prepared to co-operate with the police to ensure that this is investigated thoroughly because we know it wasn't any of our people from the site, and we know a set up when we see one. This is the same crap that was pulled in Kanesetake during 1990 trying to use the media as a negotiating tool and to play out their political bs at the expense of the Onkwehonweh.
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[FONT=Arial, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif]In this particular case, it has been alleged that the homeowners want to be bought out and the government won't answer to their demands for an outrageous amount of money. It is also been alleged that the three times they claim that the "natives from the site" stole their Canadian flag off of their lawn, they were seen by police
removing the flag itself, and then calling in a false police report. I think that the politicians who are supporting these slanderous accusations against our people need to think about who and what they are supporting (unless they are part of the plan) because at this point, perhaps we should go ahead and jump into the boat and into their court system with charges of slander against our people and sue them for everything they got, including their homes that are sitting on land that already belongs to us. The only terroristic action that is happening near Kanesthaton, is that brought on when the instigators from outside try to come in and insite trouble, or when the politicians who think they are doing something for their people, continue with their lied filled campaigns based on slanderous gossip and who are both supported and allowed to report it as facts by irresponsible news media. So, a message from our people, go ahead and continue with your plots of deception, keep on trying to prove to the world that we are an evil people as your latest blog "faces of evil" tried to imply, because when you live and answer to the Creator, you live without fear. We have nothing to hide. We have simply stated the facts. The land is ours. The road which you hang your flags on is ours. The business which you are claiming millions of dollars of losses on, is a result of the racism and hatred shown against our people that has caused our people not to shop in your stores anymore. It is not a result of barricades and it isn't based on fear from the outside townspeople coming in to shop, because they continue to come to Six Nations.

It is your own doing. It is your mayors doing. It is because you did not understand or respect the fact that the Haudenesonne, whom you want the army brought in to eliminate, are the very people who supported and kept your business running by the spending of our money in your community.

I also wanted to touch on the whole "faces of evil" thing. There was a recent blog which was allegedly started by the same individual from London Ontario who supports Gary McHale and who apparently scanned different pictures of our people and our supporters to create a little video depicting so-called "faces of evil". I didn't get to watch it because by the time I tried to view it, it had been shut down. But the whole thing about our people being evil was started a few months ago within our
own community by the elected chief and his political advisor after the band council voted to stop paying the salary of this particular legal advisor and took him out of his position. ( Note however, that the individual is still out there speaking on behalf of the Six Nations, and still wanders around the band administration building
as any other employee even though he supposedly was taken off payroll........what gives!? ) It was an attempt at a smear campaign to undermine the position of the people at Kanehstaton, it was done out of anger to try and get our people to stop
supporting the site, and somehow try to stop the movement of the people at forcing the crown to deal with our only true government, the Haudenesonne. The people, through our traditional council. As a matter of fact, it was implied that our
traditional council was evil. It was an ill fated attempt to smear some of the people who supported us financially. It was and continues to be used as a tool by those who want to discredit the Haudenesonne in order to perpetuate the fraud of the crown in its insistance at dealing with the illegal entity known as the elected band council. I understand that there was something out there with my own name attached to it, that an individual was calling me evil. I don't know because I didn't read it, I was only told about it. It doesn't matter. What matters is that it is right in line with what has been prophescized. That we, the Haudenesonne, would be called evil. That we would referred to as the "666" which apparently one of the article's was referring to the "6-6-6 Nations". I have been told by many elders in
the past, that this time would come, and that those who truly work for the Creator would clearly be separated from those that don't. I guess that time is now, and those individuals are showing themselves.

Finally, I want to talk about this holiday season in particular and how deeply it has effected me. For many years, I have struggled with Christmas, and have tried to teach my children the truth about this season, and how I see it. That for the
Christian people, it is a time to celebrate Christs birth, and to enjoy Peace on Earth. And yet, for the Onkwehonweh, this is something that we are suppose to live our life by. Every day. Not just one day of the year. Just like many of the other
Christian/Calendar holidays. Mothers Day, Fathers Day etc. Why would you only honour your mother and father on one day of the year. So why do we only acknowledge this person, Christ, who gave his life for your sins, only one day of the year. In
our teachings, He was known as the Peacemaker, and the Kaienerekowah, this Great Law, is the Law or Message of Peace that he brought to help us to live our life by. It is symbolized by the Great White Pine Tree with an Eagle sitting at the top.

I'll share with you this story I was told and then I will explain why. I was told that when the Peacemaker came and our people accepted the Peace, He then told us that He was going to go across the great big waters and deliver this same message to the people over there. He left instructions for our people to cut a notch out of
the Great White Pine every day, and if one day that Pine was to bleed, we would know that those people did not accept the Peace and that they had killed Him. So every day, our people cut the notch out of the tree, and finally, there came a day when
that Pine did bleed. Our people were angry and set out to build a big raft and were going to go across those great waters and kill the people that had killed our Peacemaker. But while they were building this raft, the Peacemaker returned to them
in spirit and told them not to go across to kill those people. He reminded them of the Peace that we had accepted. He showed them the holes in his hands and feet, and the crown of thorns on his head and he warned our people that there would come a time when those people would come across the waters to our homelands and it was up to us if we welcomed them and helped them. He also warned our people to beware of the man carrying the black book.

This is something that has never left my mind. It was not the book itself that he warned us of. It was the man who carried the black book, and just like anything written, it can be changed and manipulated to control people. And like everything
else in the battle of good vs. evil, right handed twin vs. left handed twin, everything that was good that the right handed twin did, the left handed twin has to undermine. So too has this message of Peace been undermined. This celebration of Peace, that was given to all people, was never intended to be commercialized, nor
was it intended only to be acknowledged only one day out of the year. The Eagle, representing the Onkwehonweh who have the responsiblity to uphold that peace, that rests on top of the Great Tree; was replaced by the Star of David, and the Message
of Peace has been replaced by commercialization and the giving of presents. It has become something that is used to further the stress and hardship of the people by putting pressure on parents to go into debt to buy presents for their children based on what?! On Peace? No wonder statistics show that Christmas time has the highest
rate of suicide because we are buying into the fraud and continue to teach our children this fraud. So when I was on my way home from town on Christmas Eve with my daughter, and I had just hung up the phone with my husband who was at the site at Kanehstaton, and I was thinking of the people at the site, who weren't at home with
their families enjoying foods and celebrations, but who were there on that site maintaining our position and upholding the Law that Creator gave to us, my tears began to fall. When she asked if I was ok, I told her how I felt. How hypocritical
I felt because how I know that this whole Christmas Season is just a fisaude, and that those people who were at the site were doing exactly what the Creator intended for us to do and what we are obligated to do and how this Peace that we speak of isn't suppose to be only acknowledged one day of the year, and that it isn't about
presents, and that even though my tree at home has an Eagle on it rather than a Star, am I truly upholding what the Creator intended by continuing that fisaude. I cried alot of tears that night. But my tears were not for the people at the site,
they were for the rest of us. Again, just MY thoughts. And while everyone at Kanehstaton knows my heart and my spirit is with them even when I can't be, I want to acknowledge all of them who are staying on the site full time, and I want the
rest of the world to know that those individuals have my deepest respect because of their committment and dedication to the Onkwehonweh, to our Sovereignty, to the Kaierenekowah and to the Creator. I am truly inspired by you all! Nya Weh Kowah!

For now, that is it for my update. I was asked to give some thought about the new year, and perhaps share some of what I envision for the Onkwehowehonweh. What I envision is a time of change for the Onkwehonweh. I can see the Unity and Peace growing and the Haudenesonne slowly taking back their responsiblities and rightful
place in the Governance of the People, and I see the People, knowing it is OUR responsiblity, making sure that this is what happens. I see the Crown finally recognizing that it is the People who are the government and that they can continue to try and manipulate individuals and the elective system, but they will never manipulate nor dictate to the Onkwehonweh. I know for myself, and in speaking with some of the women who are part of the "negotiations" both band council as well as
traditional, we are committed to having more community meetings and updating the people so they are more directly involved with what is going on.

My biggest message is to all of our supporters. For it is with all of you that recognition must be given. When I stood with the Women & Clanmothers in that circle and we sent out the message to re-kindle the Fire of Peace back in April, and I look at how far our message of Peace has reached, and how truly amazing times that we are in and what an impact that this is having on the World, It is all of you that we have to thank. So Nya Weh Kowah to all of you who accepted that Peace and who share that Message with others. Nya Weh to all of those who have supported Kanehstaton through your financial donations, through your encouraging words, and through your prayers. All of you are greatly appreciated and thought of in our prayers as well.

In Love, Light and Peace,


Hazel
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I could not help myself, I just had to post this, and as it pertains to this issue, this seemed like a good spot, lol...


Hey Schultz, You Nitwit!

December 4th, 2006 · 4 Comments


That cute little mamma’s boy, Gary McHale, is at it again. Seen here dressed up in his ‘Sunday go to meetin” clothes, Scary went and put some Canadian flags up at the boundary of the Caledonia land reclamation site. My, how frightening!!!
McHale, who’s racist ways can be seen on the wonderfully humourous site Caledonia Wakeup Call, (Scary has quite a knack for fiction) had the failed attempt earlier this year to march en masse with his skinhead friends in an attempt to rile up the Mohawks holding the land. Scary had predicted 20,000 would show up, but his couple of hundred were outnumbered by the Mohawk’s potluck supper group. Hey Scary, got no friends, make cool aid!!!
Now he wants to put more Canadian flags up and ribbons for the troops. Here’s his message by way of my sister, Bluejay:
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I, for one, would like to thank everyone who thought up the idea of putting up Canadian Flags – it was great and great to see the support of residents.
I believe the message has gotten out but in a very limited way – no Toronto coverage or Canada wide. I believe that the media can work for us. Let the media ask McGuinty & Fantino questions about why is it wrong to put up Flags.
Therefore, I would like to know whether people would support the idea of setting Sat. Dec. 17 – 1pm as a time to have people in Caledonia and around Caledonia to gather to put up Canadian Flags and ribbons in support of Canada and our troops.
If you like the idea then please email me and I can announce it to the media and post it on my site by Tuesday. Then we sit back and let Fantino & McGuinty put their own foot in their mouths.
Please let me know what you think.
By the way - from several source - the Natives have removed the flags by the Power Station - OPP stood by and watched.

Gary McHale
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Wow gary! everyone’s going to be mighty frightened by that! Such provocation! imagine having pieces of cloth erected on your land. Yes, we know you think you have a maple leaf where your heart belongs, but have you checked it for affids lately?
yes , gary, ‘you know nothzing!’

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Your logic is also flawed, then. There is evidence that supports a claim that Europeans, more specifically Vikings, existed in Canada before Aboriginals.. If things were different, you might be living in Asia.. read about the Bering Strait.
I'll have to agree with everyone else on this one Andem.

There is evidence that the Norse did manage to build settlements, but were unable, to quell the wrestless Native population. Making this land a tad unlurative to their ventures.
 

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BACKGROUNDER ON THE CLAIMS OF THE
SIX NATIONS OF THE GRAND RIVER BAND OF INDIANS


In March 1995, the Six Nations of the Grand River Band of Indians filed a lawsuit against the Government of Canada and the Province of Ontario. The lawsuit involves allegations of breaches of fiduciary duty in the administration of Six Nations lands and assets, most of which are based on events that took place before Confederation. In other words, the Six Nations claims focus on how land and money were managed, rather than questioning ownership and/or a return of lands.​
Specifically, the Six Nations give fourteen examples of claims, or allegations, which they are attempting to prove against Canada and/or Ontario, including:
  • the Crown did not give the Six Nations all the land promised in the Haldimand Proclamation;
  • the Crown patented land in the tract known as “Block 5” (part of Moulton Township) without having received a valid surrender;
  • the Crown patented land in the tract known as “Block 6” (part of Canborough Township) without having received a valid surrender;
  • William Claus, a Crown agent, misappropriated monies belonging to the Six Nations and the Crown did not properly secure reimbursement;
  • the Crown did not compensate the Six Nations for land flooded during the construction of the Welland Canal;
  • the Crown speculatively invested the Six Nations’ trust monies in the Grand River Navigation Company;
  • the Six Nations did not receive appropriate compensation for 368 7/10 acres patented to the Grand River Navigation Company;
  • the Six Nations did not receive adequate compensation for the lands surrendered for sale in the Town (now City) of Brantford;
  • the Crown patented Six Nations land adjoining the Talbot Road in lot sizes not approved by the Six Nations;
  • the Crown improperly patented Six Nations land adjoining the Hamilton Port Dover Plank Road that the Six Nations wanted leased;
  • the Crown did not properly compensate the Six Nations for land taken at Port Maitland;
  • the Crown did not secure a valid surrender of the Six Nations’ interest in the lands on the Grand River in 1841 and that the current reserve does not contain all the land set aside in the Order-in-Council of October 4, 1843;
  • Samuel Jarvis, an agent of the Crown, could not account for all the Six Nations’ money with which he had been entrusted;
  • the Six Nations did not receive proper compensation for the exploitation of oil and gas under their reserve.
As outlined in its Statement of Defence, the Government of Canada’s position is that the Six Nations validly surrendered all the lands that are not now part of the reserve; that the Six Nations received full and fair compensation for the lands they surrendered; and, that if there is any liability, the liability related to breaches that pre-date Confederation rests with the Province of Ontario.
In 1999, 2000 and 2001, all three Parties – the Six Nations, the Province of Ontario and the Government of Canada – turned from active litigation and towards talks to find common ground upon which to proceed with some form of out-of-court resolution. Since 2004, the Government of Canada has been in exploratory discussions with the Six Nations’ elected Chief and Council and the Province of Ontario to address the claims.
This timeline reflects the tremendous complexity of the factual issues that must be addressed. There are already more than 70,000 pages of material dating from the 17th, 18th, 19th and 20th centuries. A full response to the Six Nations’ allegations requires a comprehensive social, political, legal and economic history of southwestern Ontario from 1784 to the present.
April 2006

http://www.ainc-inac.gc.ca/nr/prs/j-a2006/snjsbk_e.html

The claim highlited in red, is the only claim I would take issue with. As far as I know, Joseph Brant negotiated the transfer and the subsiquential annexation of that land by the Town of Brantford. In order to cover the purchases of agricultural equipment and supplies, by Six Nation peoples, on credit. Which by act of law, could not be collected. As Natives could not be party to contracts of such nature. Done in good faith and in the spirit of continued co-existance.