CSIS backlog delayed wiretap of Air India suspect by 5 months
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CBC shilling for terrorists
These CBC reports are missing something that I HEARD Bartleman, the former head of intelligence for Foreign Affairs, say on TV interviews.
CSE, the Canadian Securities Establishment, funded from with the army budget, was the agency that got the original 'raw' information that this bomb plot on Air India was going ahead.
Bartleman is quoted in these CBC print stories as having talked about it to CSIS, and CSE in never mentioned. CBC is keeping CSE out of this - why?
two other CBC articles, from original link on this thread, that do not mention CSE:
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/05/04/airindia-inquiry.html
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/05/03/bartleman-airindia.html
So what? you ask. So, the guy who could have pushed this matter to the police, or even the airports and airlines if the RCMP would not react was not named. It was not Bartleman, but the one who gave him that info., and that person was with CSE, the organisation not named by CBC here.
AND - that the RCMP who got angry and refused to accept this information or act on it was doing something we, as Canadians and especially families of the victims, would not agree with: helping the bomb plot to go ahead. "Shut up and let it happen" is what he would have been told by his superiors, who were.... hmmmmm. A mystery... the only ones who can tell the top cop what to do are the politicians and their superiors who are, hmmm nobody!!! - except maybe Americans. [Like when we wanted to end prohibition on pot, the Americans told our politicians to drop it.]
What really went on? WHO wanted this bomb plot to go ahead? Who could it possibly benefit? There were Sihks who were angry at the Indian government for killing Sihks , but so what does that have to do with Canada's top cop and politicians? Why would they care about that issue? {Anyone have a guess?
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ps - this isn't me posting this, someone got my password.
These CBC reports are missing something that I HEARD Bartleman, the former head of intelligence for Foreign Affairs, say on TV interviews.
CSE, the Canadian Securities Establishment, funded from with the army budget, was the agency that got the original 'raw' information that this bomb plot on Air India was going ahead.
Bartleman is quoted in these CBC print stories as having talked about it to CSIS, and CSE in never mentioned. CBC is keeping CSE out of this - why?
two other CBC articles, from original link on this thread, that do not mention CSE:
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/05/04/airindia-inquiry.html
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/05/03/bartleman-airindia.html
So what? you ask. So, the guy who could have pushed this matter to the police, or even the airports and airlines if the RCMP would not react was not named. It was not Bartleman, but the one who gave him that info., and that person was with CSE, the organisation not named by CBC here.
AND - that the RCMP who got angry and refused to accept this information or act on it was doing something we, as Canadians and especially families of the victims, would not agree with: helping the bomb plot to go ahead. "Shut up and let it happen" is what he would have been told by his superiors, who were.... hmmmmm. A mystery... the only ones who can tell the top cop what to do are the politicians and their superiors who are, hmmm nobody!!! - except maybe Americans. [Like when we wanted to end prohibition on pot, the Americans told our politicians to drop it.]
What really went on? WHO wanted this bomb plot to go ahead? Who could it possibly benefit? There were Sihks who were angry at the Indian government for killing Sihks , but so what does that have to do with Canada's top cop and politicians? Why would they care about that issue? {Anyone have a guess?
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ps - this isn't me posting this, someone got my password.
mentioning CSE not allowed
Further interviews with Bartleman have kept "CSE" out of the conversation too.
Where he used the same phrases relating to the same thing where he said "CSE" yesterday, he now says "CSIS". Someone is determined to keep the truth from Canadians and victims of the Air India bombing.
Further interviews with Bartleman have kept "CSE" out of the conversation too.
Where he used the same phrases relating to the same thing where he said "CSE" yesterday, he now says "CSIS". Someone is determined to keep the truth from Canadians and victims of the Air India bombing.
Something made Canadian authorities back off what would have been their first big "bust" of terrorists in Canada, other than the FLQ in the 1970s.
Q - What sort of profits* or other benefit would the RCMP, or above the RCMP [whomever told Zaccardelli that he should ignore Air India threats for that weekend, "allow it to go ahead" ] recieve from "letting it go ahead"?
*or maybe it was more like "avoiding harm" by heeding some threat by the bombers... ie: the Sikh Terrorists saying "let it happen or we will blow up the Parliament buildings too".
Ideas anyone?
Q - What sort of profits* or other benefit would the RCMP, or above the RCMP [whomever told Zaccardelli that he should ignore Air India threats for that weekend, "allow it to go ahead" ] recieve from "letting it go ahead"?
*or maybe it was more like "avoiding harm" by heeding some threat by the bombers... ie: the Sikh Terrorists saying "let it happen or we will blow up the Parliament buildings too".
Ideas anyone?
"allowed to happen"
More interviews today on CBC about Air India. Still no more mention of the agency that got the information in the first place, the ones who told Bartleman about the bomb plot, CSE.
On CBC this morning:
"The CSIS people followed the bombers to the test plot and heard the bomb go off, three weeks before the plane went down. CSIS also knew the date of the planned bombing and there were only TWO flights that weekend. They also knew the names of the suspects, addresses, and their connections in India and associates in Canada. They knew when where and how it would happen " [said by the boss of Bartleman.]
The way that I would have handled this all those years ago is to LET the plane load, watch for luggage-without-a-passenger, but don't let any of those bags onboard. Bomb sniffing dogs and equiptment would find the bomb and the perps would be arrested and lives saved. Simple.
So simple that this must have been "ALLOWED TO HAPPEN". Some kind of benefits must have been offered to the officials from the bombers, or maybe a threat, because it sure looks like Canadian officials allowed it to go ahead.
9-11 was suspected of being "allowed to go ahead" to in very similiar circumstances.
Osama bin Laden could have been caught, but they just didn't move in.
I am starting to wonder whats going on...
More interviews today on CBC about Air India. Still no more mention of the agency that got the information in the first place, the ones who told Bartleman about the bomb plot, CSE.
On CBC this morning:
"The CSIS people followed the bombers to the test plot and heard the bomb go off, three weeks before the plane went down. CSIS also knew the date of the planned bombing and there were only TWO flights that weekend. They also knew the names of the suspects, addresses, and their connections in India and associates in Canada. They knew when where and how it would happen " [said by the boss of Bartleman.]
The way that I would have handled this all those years ago is to LET the plane load, watch for luggage-without-a-passenger, but don't let any of those bags onboard. Bomb sniffing dogs and equiptment would find the bomb and the perps would be arrested and lives saved. Simple.
So simple that this must have been "ALLOWED TO HAPPEN". Some kind of benefits must have been offered to the officials from the bombers, or maybe a threat, because it sure looks like Canadian officials allowed it to go ahead.
9-11 was suspected of being "allowed to go ahead" to in very similiar circumstances.
Osama bin Laden could have been caught, but they just didn't move in.
I am starting to wonder whats going on...