Cry Rape, Go Directly to Canada

Shiva

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A lovely gem for the empowerment of women from our favourite South Asian dictator:

Pakistan President's comments: cry rape and go to Canada, are condemned
CBC News

The Pakistan president commented this week that many in his country felt crying rape was an easy way to make money and move to Canada. President Musharraf's remarks have been condemned by Prime Minister Paul Martin, Amnesty International and the woman whose case brought the issue to the world's attention.

This week, in an interview with the Washington Post newspaper, President Pervez Musharraf spoke about the case of Mukhtar Mai, a 33-year-old illiterate woman who went public about having been gang-raped on the orders of a village council in 2002. Her brother, then 12, was judged to have befriended a woman of a powerful clan.

Mai won public sympathy and government support after she demanded that the men be charged and convicted. But earlier this year Musharraf angered the Bush administration when he blocked Mai from traveling to the United States to publicize the case.

Musharraf told the Post that Mai was free to travel now -- though she has never left Pakistan -- and he had no regrets about how he handled the incident. He said Mai had come under the sway of organizations determined to harm Pakistan's image and he did not think Pakistan "should be singled out when the curse is everywhere in the world."

Musharraf then was quoted in the Post as follows: "You must understand the environment in Pakistan. This has become a moneymaking concern. A lot of people say if you want to go abroad and get a visa for Canada or citizenship and be a millionaire, get yourself raped."

On Thursday, Musharraf was reported to have told a New York news conference that he had been expressing a commonly held opinion rather than his own.

Mukhtar Mai told Reuters she was pained by Musharraf's comments: "Nobody does it (gets raped) intentionally. A large number of women are molested and insulted in the country. How many of them have made money? Such thinking about women is not good."

Prime Minister Paul Martin said Thursday he raised the matter with the Pakistani leader during a meeting on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly. "I stated unequivocally that comments such as that are not acceptable and that violence against women is also a blight that besmirches all humanity."

London-based rights group Amnesty International said Musharraf should apologize. "This callous and insulting statement requires a public apology from President Musharraf to the women of Pakistan and especially to victims of rape, sexual assault and other forms of violence that are rampant with impunity in Pakistan. His statement is an offence to women all over the world."

Pakistan's leading English-language daily newspaper - Dawn - went after Musharraf in an editorial headlined "Wrong thing to say". "If this attitude, of blaming rape and other crimes against women on women themselves and ridiculing NGOs (non-government organisations) that take up such issues, begins to travel upward from ignorant mullahs and male chauvinists to permeate the higher echelons of the administration, then God help us," it said.

Musharraf is due to speak to an audience of Pakistani-American women in New York on Saturday.
 

Shiva

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I'd almost laugh at the political gaffe if it weren't such a serious issue. I suppose he doesn't have to worry about approval ratings, though! ;)
 

damngrumpy

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This is really rich, the Americans are trying to force democracy in the Middle East, yet they support what is really a military dictatorship in Pakistan, which has a terrible rights record since the military took over some years ago from a democratically elected government. Zulficaar Ali Bhuto, was elected and then overthrown by the military, later his daughter was elected and again overthrown by the present regime. I indeed Bush wanted to support democracy why not start in Pakistan where they had a democratic government before on more than one occassion.
The answer is, everytime the people choose a government they support those who are not supportive of the USA.
The president of Pakistan should be admonished for such statements.
 

Vanni Fucci

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Not only that Grumpy dude...but Abdul Qadeer Khan, who is a national hero in Pakistan was found to be guilty of proliferating nuclear secrets to Iran, North Korea and Libya...two of the three being Axis of Evil countries...President Musharraf went on national television and granted him a full pardon after Khan apologized...

An insane number of the supposed Al-qaeda terrorists caught to date have had ties to Pakistani intelligencse service ISI...and ISI conducts many joint operations with CIA all over the world...

The CIA classifies the Pakistani government as a federal republic...but everyone knows better...the only democratic governments that country has known have been overthrown by the military...

Why has nobody called all of this into question, I wonder... :?
 

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RE: Cry Rape, Go Directly

The reason the US supports Musharraf and not other Pakistanis is because other people in Pakistan feel sympathetic to the Taliban/Al Qaeda, and they would allow people to do as they wish; whereas Musharraf is strongly against terrorism now.
 

Shiva

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"No need to apologise"

Musharraf: 'No need to apologise'

Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf has denied that he accused rape victims of using their situation to make money in a newspaper interview.

But, one of the authors of Tuesday's article in the Washington Post told the BBC News website that the president had been quoted "verbatim" in the article.

The article quoted Gen Musharraf as saying that rape had become a "moneymaking concern" in Pakistan.

Women's groups held protests in Pakistan on Friday against the remarks.

During a press conference at the offices of Time magazine, Gen Musharraf said that he was not insensitive enough to accuse raped women of using their situation to make money.

He said the newspaper had misinterpreted what he had said and had misquoted him.

'Verbatim'

But Glenn Kessler, co-author of the Washington Post article, told the BBC News website: "The president's comments were tape recorded and they were quoted verbatim and in context."

"The article did not try to sensationalise the quotes and in fact they were not the main focus of the article," he said.

In the second half of the article, Musharraf is quoted as saying "You must understand the environment in Pakistan. This has become a moneymaking concern. A lot of people say if you want to go abroad and get a visa for Canada or citizenship and be a millionaire, get yourself raped."

He made the comments in the context of a question about the treatment of high-profile rape victim Mukhtar Mai.

The Women's Action Forum in Pakistan described the president's reported comments as "outrageous".

'Not unique'

Last week President Musharraf told a conference on violence against women in Islamabad that Pakistan should not be singled out for its treatment of women.

He also lashed out at rights groups for their role in highlighting cases such as Ms Mai's outside the country. Leading rights groups called the conference a "farce".

The president's critics say he pays only lip service to cracking down on the abuse of women, hundreds of whom are raped and murdered every year in so-called honour cases in Pakistan.

Despite government protestations that it is doing much to help women, many of those who try to register cases of rape and violence find it as hard as ever to do so, campaigners say.