Could Turks and Caicos be Canada’s 11th province?
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We are still under the crown and part of the commonwealth, Britain would no more attack us than they would Wales. You are a f*cking idiot if you think any different. Besides that, we would kick your ***!
Yep & an even bigger problem with the monarchy. Never has there bee a more useless and worthless bunch of inbred idiots who contribute less than nothing to society. Well except to losers and morons who believe some antiquated lie about them being designated by god as superior for some unknown reason...must be that they marry and f*ck their cousins and uncles!
And yet if a British MP had designs on making Alberta an English county you'd see that as imperialistic.
Turks and Caicos is a BRITISH territory. How would you like it if a British MP tried to force a referendum in Saskatchewan to ask its people if they want to leave Canada and become and English country? I don't you'd be so supportive of people being allowed to democratically decide then.
The clue lies in the last word. It's BRITISH. Keep your thieving hands off.
I should hope for your sake that you're not. Any Canadian invasion of any British territory would see a disastrous and humiliating defeat for Canada.
I'd have no problem with the UK making a peaceful offer. Of course then it's up to Canadians to decide whether to take the UK up on it? That's not the same as the UK invading us. It would be a mutual agreement.
This is exactly what happened here. A Canadian made a proposition, T&C's premier turned it down. Canada might have wished otehrwise, but still friends. End of story.
So what's all this about us invading T&C and being imperialistic for having made a simple proposition?
Honestly, if a US representative or a British one made some proposition for some kind of union with Canada, I'd say it's worth considering depending on the details. That does not translate automatically in some secret plan to invade Canada. That would just be plain paranoia.
If you think Britain wouldn't attack Canada if Canada invaded British territory then you are seriouslly deluded. Do you think we'd stand by and let a foreign power invade British territory? I don't give a **** if you are a part of the Commonwealth.
Tell you what. Why don't you petition the Canadian Government to invade the Turks and Caicos, if you are so sure Britain wouldn't attack Canada to kick you off our territory? Go on - invade the islands. I dare you.
Wales, by the way, is a part of Britain.
Well get rid of them. Don't bleat about it to me. Ain't my problem.
Depends. Are you talking about a British MP simply making a proposal Alberta is free to accept or reject, or a full-on military invasion?
See the difference?
Force a referendum? No I would not support that. Propose a referendum, why not? He could propose al he wants? And if Saskatchewan decided to go ahead with such a referendum, and the majority voted to do so, then Canada would have to consider whether to accept a corridor, join the US, join the UK as a whole, or some other alternative.
I just don't get why all the hoopla about a proposal equalling an all-out military invasion.
So you oppose the democratic will of the people of T&C to decide for themselves? Now that's imperialistic.
Personally, I would never force a part of Canada to remain Canadian if it wanted to join another country.
We'd adapt. But I would oppose Canada flushing its principles down the toilet for the sake of 'national unity'. The moment any province is not free in principle to leave Canada, then we would be a nation without a soul.
Perhaps. But like I said, what in the world makes you believe Canada has any plan to invade T&C?
Not yet
Who says invade?
Many canadians are buying vacation homes there... We don't have to invade, we can very easily and very simply acquire the island(s). It might also be a better idea for you to worry about Scotland and their pending secession, that will be a big embarrassment when that happens
.. And what have you done for them lately?
Not much of anything, I suspect
To be honest, just having British citizenship gives them access to a market about 5 times Canada's population.
Don't let your nationalism blind you from the reality. Add to that that the UK has access to the EU market, which again is a massive market population-wise.
If I were T&C, I'd definitely take these factors into account before deciding to join Canada.
Now supposing North America developed some kind of free-trade agreement or free labour movement agreement with one another comparable to the EU, then I could see T&C joining it, but then joining Canada would be redundant anyway.
And even then, unless this North American agreement were exclusive, T&C could choose to benefit from both.
Many of the wars, at the behest of Empires, in which Canada has been involved were chimeric at best. The Boer War, World War 1, and Afghanistan are three of note. A good war of conquest initiated by our dear leaders, without great power interference or approval, might be just what the doctor ordered. After all, our national glue -hockey fights are being questioned.
If that happened you'd be one of the first crying "imperialism!"
I doubt you'd be too happy were that to happen. It's alright for you to bang on about the the "rights" of the Turks and Caicos Islanders to decide whether or not they want to be Canadian, but if a British MP proposed a referendum for the people of Alberta or Saskatchewan to decide whether or not they want to remain Canadian or become British you'd be the first to bang on about "British imperialism".
I suppose it's different, though, when it comes to ADDING to Canadian territory rather than taking away. You're just an imperialist.
And remember, the Turks and Caicos Islanders are British citizens. To even think that they may want to ditch their British passports for poxy Canadian ones just smacks of arrogance.
Why should they be given the right to decide? They are British citizens on British territory. I doubt the Canadian Government would be very willing to allow the people of Alberta to decide on whether they want to become British.
A Canadian invasion of the islands is the only way it's going to get them.
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Oh dear. Another arrogant imperialist.
How? Are those Canadian tourists going to overthrow the Turks and Caicos Islands government?
Why should I worry about something which isn't going to happen?
What YOU should be worried about is a Quebec secession from Canada - which is much more likely than a Scottish secession from Britain - and which will be big embarrassment for your nation when it happens. The Scots are much more pro-British than the Quebecers are pro-Canadian.
And what will Canada do for them? I mean, they don't seem to be desperately clamouring to become Canadian, do they?
Jeez... don't get your knickers in a knot. It was an idea that was thrown out there. It is an idea that has been thrown out there since 1917 when Bordon suggested it. Coming up to a hundred years and still nothing. So you going off on a rant is just so much hot air. Chill, your precious kingdom isn't going to get any smaller today.:roll:
The fact that the idea has resurfaced shows that this little piece of Canadian imperialism and colonialism is still something some Canadian support.
Are you ever getting your knickers in a knot over nothing but 2 guys talking.
But just to clarify...they are not british citizens. They are British overseas territory citizens which is something totally different. They don't have british passports (though I do) and dont get to to vote for your parliament.
Why would you deny them the right to choose if you weren't imperialistic. They don't get to vote for your govt but you think your govt should control them. That is slavery. Now I understand how the wealthy in Britain would want to keep another tax haven but really why would T&C care about that.
Anyway BL, keep blathering on and threatening us with war. You sound like an idiot bent on rebuilding the british British Empire.
Hardly, we, as Canadians are no such thing.
Further, another thing we are not are:
They will welcome us with open arms... No one need overthrow anything
hehehe... Keep telling yourself that
Worried?... I welcome the change
Now you show your ignorance. Most of Canada would gladly be rid of Quebec but they keep voting to stay. See we give them the choice and they vote to remain Canadian.
:roll: Ya, and there are some idiots here that would like Canada to go back to being a british protectorate and some that would like to see Canada merge with the u.s. Neither is going to happen in the near future if at all. Definitely not something to get all up tight about and making asinine threats. The only one that has been talking "invasion" and "military" has been you. It's called small di ck syndrome. Something you all have had since the French showed your women what a true man has between his legs. Not that childs "willy" the majority of british "men" have.
Yes, they are.
Try telling that to the Turks and Caicos Islanders who, like people in the other British Overseas Territories like the Falklands, Gibraltar or Bermuda, are British citizens.
Oh dear.
In the same way that the British Government wouldn't have allowed a Scottish independence referendum if it had the power to prevent it, or the Canadian Government wouldn't allow an Albertan independence referendum.
And you think the Canadian Government should control them. So what's the difference?
War will ensue should Canada, or ANY coutnry, invade British territory. It happened in 1982 and it will happen again if British territory is invaded. YOU are the aggressors here, not the British.
No. You're the one intent on building a Canadian Empire by taking British territory.