Why the country is called in English Côte d'Ivoire, even though there is a specific English name for it?
Côte d'Ivoire or Ivory Coast
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It's Ivory Coast in English, but the Ivorians, who speak French, call it Côte d'Ivoire.
However, before the Ivory Coast/Holland game, when the German tannoy announcer said that they are about to play the Ivorian national anthem, he called it by it's German name when he spoke in German, but when he spoke in English he called it Côte d'Ivoire. So he made a mistake there.
However, before the Ivory Coast/Holland game, when the German tannoy announcer said that they are about to play the Ivorian national anthem, he called it by it's German name when he spoke in German, but when he spoke in English he called it Côte d'Ivoire. So he made a mistake there.
Re: RE: Côte d'Ivoire or Ivory Coast
No you are wrong...
For long time the country was called Ivory Coast in english, but recently it has been changed to Cote d'Ivoire.
If you do not belive which you probaly do not then have a look at this:
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/iv.html
Have a look at where it says:
conventional long form: Republic of Cote d'Ivoire
conventional short form: Cote d'Ivoire
local long form: Republique de Cote d'Ivoire
local short form: Cote d'Ivoire
former: Ivory Coast
It is under country name.
From Wikipedia
'History
The country was originally known in English as Ivory Coast, and corresponding translations in other languages: Côte-d'Ivoire in French, Elfenbeinküste in German, Costa de Marfil in Spanish, Norsunluurannikko in Finnish, Pantai Gading in Indonesian, Ivoorkust in Dutch, Wybrzeże Kości Słoniowej in Polish, Costa d'Avorio in Italian and so on. In October 1985 the government requested that the country be known as Côte d'Ivoire in every language, without the hyphen, contravening the French grammatical rule that states geographical names with several words must been written with hyphens'
So bad luck...
Blackleaf said:
No you are wrong...
For long time the country was called Ivory Coast in english, but recently it has been changed to Cote d'Ivoire.
If you do not belive which you probaly do not then have a look at this:
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/iv.html
Have a look at where it says:
conventional long form: Republic of Cote d'Ivoire
conventional short form: Cote d'Ivoire
local long form: Republique de Cote d'Ivoire
local short form: Cote d'Ivoire
former: Ivory Coast
It is under country name.
From Wikipedia
'History
The country was originally known in English as Ivory Coast, and corresponding translations in other languages: Côte-d'Ivoire in French, Elfenbeinküste in German, Costa de Marfil in Spanish, Norsunluurannikko in Finnish, Pantai Gading in Indonesian, Ivoorkust in Dutch, Wybrzeże Kości Słoniowej in Polish, Costa d'Avorio in Italian and so on. In October 1985 the government requested that the country be known as Côte d'Ivoire in every language, without the hyphen, contravening the French grammatical rule that states geographical names with several words must been written with hyphens'
So bad luck...
RE: Côte d'Ivoire or Ivor
It would be far simpler is all the world used the country in the country's language. The one that drives me nuts if Germany, Allemande, Deutschland. If theGerman's call it Deustchland then that's what we should all call it.
It would be far simpler is all the world used the country in the country's language. The one that drives me nuts if Germany, Allemande, Deutschland. If theGerman's call it Deustchland then that's what we should all call it.
RE: Côte d'Ivoire or Ivor
They've been playing fabulous football. They will be the best team to have been eliminated. Kone's goal against Holland may be the goal of the tournament.
They've been playing fabulous football. They will be the best team to have been eliminated. Kone's goal against Holland may be the goal of the tournament.
Re: RE: Côte d'Ivoire or Ivor
Yes, that would be simpler, but it's impossible. Especially with USA, UK, KSA, Ivory Coast every language has their own words to translate the name of these country to their own words.
Canada cannot be translated into other languages, and the history of Canada is not that long, so that in the past some people had called differently. That's why Canada is Canada everywhere.
But with Côte d'Ivoire there is a translation for the name of the country in English, but still they call it Côte d'Ivoire. In other languages, they translate the name of the country to their words even though governement had requested the name of country to be Côte d'Ivoire in all languages.
Vicious said:
Yes, that would be simpler, but it's impossible. Especially with USA, UK, KSA, Ivory Coast every language has their own words to translate the name of these country to their own words.
Canada cannot be translated into other languages, and the history of Canada is not that long, so that in the past some people had called differently. That's why Canada is Canada everywhere.
But with Côte d'Ivoire there is a translation for the name of the country in English, but still they call it Côte d'Ivoire. In other languages, they translate the name of the country to their words even though governement had requested the name of country to be Côte d'Ivoire in all languages.
RE: Côte d'Ivoire or Ivor
Call these countries whatever the hell you want to call it. Different languages does not change intent. Its not like when i say Germany i am confusing the germans! They know I am referring to them, not the Norwegians or something.
Call these countries whatever the hell you want to call it. Different languages does not change intent. Its not like when i say Germany i am confusing the germans! They know I am referring to them, not the Norwegians or something.
Re: RE: Côte d'Ivoire or Ivor
When you are talking, there is no problem, call any country whatever you like.
But why I posted this thread in Sport? Because now in World Cup they write Côte d'Ivoire.
It's the most watched game in human history. They have to be very carefull not to make mistake, and not to use any name they want.
Semperfi_dani said:
When you are talking, there is no problem, call any country whatever you like.
But why I posted this thread in Sport? Because now in World Cup they write Côte d'Ivoire.
It's the most watched game in human history. They have to be very carefull not to make mistake, and not to use any name they want.
Vicious said:
I've lived in both Germany and France and it's not all that complicated. I'm surprised you have difficulty with what to call a country when using a particular language. The word 'Germany' is not ambivalent or difficult to understand in the English language.
Folks here are confusing official state use with cultural use. Canada as a country has official spelling of the names of other nations. It's what we put on treaties, etc. In contrast, Canadians, as a people. don't need a Big Brother dictating what particular parts of the world are called. Regimes, etc. are often in flux and ther often is no single answer what a people want to call itself. What name is used is often a loaded issue and is not always a neutral concept. Was it Burma or Myamar..Deutches Democratische Republic or East Germany? Taiwan or China?
What should we have calle East Germany? What the people say it was called..Deutschland or what the Soviets wanted it called? 'East Germany' did fine in common english language use. What should be the English word for Belgium the French word or what dutch Belgians call it? If a country like 'Tibet' no longer exists according to the Chinese we should use the official Chinese name of the province?
Our common names for nations has evolved over a few centuries and continues to evolve to take in all types of changes and fluctuations. It's just a lot easier to call Syria 'Syria' than a bunch of Arabic words that start off with 'the Islamic republic...." Potatoes came from Peru and the lowly potato is well unerstood by people around the world in their individual languages without any need fo everyone to get together and learn the Inca word. We need more diversity and creativity in the world and less 'sameness'.