Conversion

[Minority Observer84]

Gee ... think by the numbers? I prefer to seek my own answers.

Wolf

I know it seems terrible , but everything in life is defined through math . Even such things as human emotions are testable and attributable to chemical balances or imbalances in the brain . X amount of this compound and y amount of that compound triggers an emotion . Have you ever tried an antidepressant it actually makes you happy , a happiness i cannot distinguish from the "real " thing . Sometimes the math is beyond us but whenever we find something it;s there , there are mathematical patterns of order in nature patterns that arise on the subatomic level even when you try and scrabble a system .

 

[Minority Observer84]

Footnote to the above post , stimulating certain parts of the brain chemically and electrically have been proven to trigger out of body and spiritual e xperiences in subjects far from any religious or "metaphysical " setting.

 

[Minority Observer84]

It's a very good question, Curiousity! I guess part of it is just the childish desire to share the truth with the others :lol: And then we get surprised, why the others don't want our truth and keep sticking to their fallacies 8O
Besides, voicing your beliefs and convictions is one of the ways to find like-minded people.
And the "intellectual squabbles" over the different points of view really do give some spice to life.

There is no your truth or mine . This idea is childish . There is one truth out there and most of it we do not know , instead of redefining the term to suite our positions we should be engaged in a search for that truth . An investigator with a point to score is the least likely to see the truth , which is why for philosophical reasons i've forever a skeptic even about my own opinions

 

[look3467]

We acknowledge that human religious practices over the entire span of recorded history and from paleontological evidence pre-dating that record that our ignorance regarding the nature of ‘being’ leads us to invest-in, to immerse ourselves in… self-delusion? Neanderthal shamans unearthed from peat bogs in various locations around the world serve to illustrate that humanity (although Neanderthal wasn’t Homo Sapiens…but a “close” genetic relation) has practiced this willing self-delusion for a very long time.>>>MikeyDB

Seems to me that what you said proves that there is something in mankind, a spark, a thread, a mite or something that compels mankind to seek something above its self as a source of comfort in the trials of its life.
Otherwise, rewrite history and bury all the idol worship that has ever been done even to the cave mans existence.

What drives some to even today to argue against that as if though it weren't there to start with, but arguing as though its still is?

I can argue all day and all my life, because I believe it to be so, that God exists to comfort us in the world of the flesh, first, by whatever means there was available and the knowledge available about Him.

I have be privileged, not as a caveman, but as a modern man to have the knowledge and understanding of this great and wonderful God, and how He has developed humanity to what now is, and yet, continuing to.

There can never, I mean never be a marriage between faith in science only and faith in God, because the latter requires something in us that does not exist physically, but spiritually.

Faith in God does give science its due, for God is the greatest scientist that exists.

Peace>>>AJ

 

[Dexter Sinister]

...God is the greatest scientist that exists.

Maybe so (though I strongly doubt it), but he's also one of the worst design engineers who's ever existed. Consider as just one example the excretory and reproductive systems of mammals. He's done the equivalent of running an open sewer line through a playground.

 

[Minority Observer84]

Maybe so (though I strongly doubt it), but he's also one of the worst design engineers who's ever existed. Consider as just one example the excretory and reproductive systems of mammals. He's done the equivalent of running an open sewer line through a playground.

Also speaking as an engineer in training , one of the worst aspects any engineering model is redundancy which ironically enough can be found in all life on earth , 100s of animal species have redundant organic structures .

 

[look3467]

Maybe so (though I strongly doubt it), but he's also one of the worst design engineers who's ever existed. Consider as just one example the excretory and reproductive systems of mammals. He's done the equivalent of running an open sewer line through a playground.

Well, mankind can say or think anything he wants to his own satisfaction.
I see the world and all its contents a marvel of a work.
I mean, look at the majestic mountains, the color of the trees in Autumn, the thousands of different fish in the sea.
I mean come on, you and I both know that no human being ever had the wisdom of knowledge to create all that there is.
As a matter of fact, the technology of mankind has killed billions upon billions.

I have no problem giving all the credit to God.

Peace>>>AJ

 

[YoungJoonKim]

I am theist and currently-possibly-baptist.
Why is good question.
Perhaps because I saw visions and experienced different lifestyle.
and still struggling against my sin..
Terrible yet still believing.
I have no problem revealing my belief, I believe in Christ and that is that.

And I am suppose to be liberal [shakes his head a little].
My teacher was telling me, "Aren't you conservative?" after discussion about homosexuality.
Awkward situation it was hehe.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

As a matter of fact, the technology of mankind has killed billions upon billions.

So has god.