Conservative Canada Apology To The World

Zzarchov

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you got that one handy?
I have many verses that are pro-abortion, while there are also verses that point to prophets being people even pre-conception (and thus people in the womb, even people when they are sperm and eggs) , other than divine prophets they speak about the need for abortion if it impacts quality of life. Like wise the bible is also pro-euthanasia.
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"If a man fathers a hundred children and lives many years, however many they be, but his soul is not satisfied with good things, and he does not even have a proper burial, then I say, `Better the miscarriage than he, for it comes in futility and goes into obscurity; and its name is covered in obscurity. It never sees the sun and it never knows anything; it is better off than he.'"
Ecclesiastes 6:3-5
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"Then I looked again at all the acts of oppression which were being done under the sun. And behold I saw the tears of the oppressed and that they had no one to comfort them; and on the side of their oppressors was power, but they had no one to comfort them. So I congratulated the dead who are already dead more than the living who are still living. But better off than both of them is the one who has never existed, who has never seen the evil activity that is done under the sun."
Ecclesiastes 4:1-3
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It is important to note, that in the bible, Murder is forbidden and is a sin, punishable in old testament by death (eye for an eye), Causing a miscarriage however (an abortion) is not a murder, so the punishment is a civil matter. Thus biblically, abortion is not murder.
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"And if men struggle and strike a woman with child so that she has a miscarriage, yet there is no further injury, he shall be fined as the woman's husband may demand of him, and he shall pay as the judges decide. But if there is any further injury, then you shall appoint as a penalty life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise."
Exodus 21:22-25
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Now, alot of anti-abortion groups are trying to rewrite the bible, The more "politically-correct" translation they find in the New International Version of the bible translates the term "miscarriage" into "gives birth prematurely" (the actual words in Hebrew translate "she loses her offspring"). Note that 3,000 years ago before modern medicine a premature baby could not survive. Hell, most live births, around half, ended in death.

So yes, the Anti-abortian christian group is rewriting the bible and attacking liberty to suit their own purpose, which seems to be "I never want to admit I didn't know the bible as well as I claimed"
 

Zzarchov

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Its actually I knew you BEFORE the womb, and that only applies to divine prophets, who had souls first, and bodies created second. If all people were like that, each time you masturbated, or a woman menstruated, they would be committing murder.
Most of the rest come from Psalms, which if you read the bible are SONGS about god from a sinner expressing his thoughts and wondering why god doesn't act some ways. If you took his words as gods words, murder and pornography and fornication would all be ok.

I should point out:
Im not saying you can't be against abortion and a christian. Thats not a problem at all. The bible doesn't say anything about speed limits either, but you could still be in favour of them and be a good christian too.
I am merely saying the bible doesn't consider them a sin. You can oppose them on all kinds of other grounds, including moral ones (perhaps you feel, rightly or wrong in the eyes of others that an abortion is a way out of personal responsibility).
But saying "its murder according to the bible" is incorrect.
 
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