Conditions for the divorce

[damngrumpy]

I think you spend too much time reading depressing books and should reach
out and read something really different maybe like or fifty shades of gray or
Lady Chatterley Love or what ever that was.

 

[selfsame]

I think you spend too much time reading depressing books and should reach
out and read something really different maybe like or fifty shades of gray or
Lady Chatterley Love or what ever that was.

Damn :smile:
People need statements in life and about their affairs. Not always novels and stories.

 

[Ludlow]

Damn :smile:
People need statements in life and about their affairs. Not always novels and stories.

All you have is another tale to be told. Nothing unique about that

although you could be just another internet troll jerking peoples chain trying to get a rise out of people and attention for yourself. If that be the case thanks for the entertainment

 

[gerryh]

No, of course.
The Quran is from God certainly.
Why is this:

It is similar to the Torah in the principles like the first commandment, which pertains to God alone without associate, and without son or parents.

Moreover, the statements are similar to the statements of the Torah, but not exactly similar.

So if the Quran was from Mohammed, the Quran would then come very identical to the Torah.

On the other hand, if the Quran was invented by Mohammed, then it would come different from the Torah in every respect, specially concerning the First Commandment that God is One without equal.

No, the quran is NOT from God. It is from Satan, as told by satans minion, mohamed.

 

[selfsame]

I see that the man is "allowed" to divorce the woman. What about the woman divorcing the man, and under what conditions as said by the Quran is that to happen? Specifics please, like you give for men divorcing women. Not the cop out "and the same for men".

If you read the previous posts in this thread carefully, you may discover that
1- Both husband and wife: if they agree mutually to divorce --> then this is allowed.
2- That neither husband nor wife may demand individually to be divorced. See the post #94
3- The post #57 includes some instances where the wife has the right to demand the divorce, and the divorce will be according to her will. Specially the footnote a a

No, and you've proven such by your own words as "interpreted" by a man. God supposedly "gave" these words to Mohammed, but Mohammed was still a man and a man in power; power corrupts men, even men from religious sects. Like the Bible and Torah, the words were written to support the people and believers they were written for and not necessarily for all humans. Each "holy text" has so much back and forth, so much blood, war, slavery that for a better world, they SHOULDN'T be followed.

But then I'm female and according to your book (and all three by tradition) I'm supposed to shut up and just do what I'm told, not think because I can't know the complexities of the world.

Right?

Not right.
Moreover, the Quran is not written by Mohammed who was illiterate: cannot write and read.
In addition, there are many proofs in the Quran that it is from God not from any human.

 

[gerryh]

Moreover, the Quran is not written by Mohammed who was illiterate: cannot write and read.
In addition, there are many proofs in the Quran that it is from God not from any human.

That's right. He was a pedophilic, war mongering, misogynistic, moron.

 

[selfsame]

No, the quran is NOT from God. It is from Satan, as told by satans minion, mohamed.

This is what you tell yourself and insist on yourself, which is not true.

I tell you this:
Unless the Quran tells me that Jesus was an apostle sent by God, and that the Gospel was revealed from God ... I say unless this is told in the Quran
And I now come to study the present Gospel (without being told in the Quran that God sent Jesus and revealed the Gospel to him), and I come to study the present Gospel and see what Christians say about Jesus that he is the son of God and he is God Himself and that he is part of Trinity
Then I would have been certain that Christianity is only an idolatry: like other idolatry religions: because they say that Jesus is God Himself and that he is the son of God and they make statues for the Christ and his mother, so then I would have been certain that it is the idolatry.
But the thing is that I have been told in the Quran that God sent Jesus and gave him the Gospel.

 

[MHz]

I think you may be confusing "soulmate" with "soulslave"

How far did Adam get on the evening he tried that line on Eve?

 

[Ludlow]

How far did Adam get on the evening he tried that line on Eve?

I don't remember that line being in the script

 

[selfsame]

In this thread I did not intend to encourage or praise the divorce, but only to give the marvelous statements of the Quran about this serious subject.
See posts #1, 57, 60, 62, 94

And on the contrary, the Quran is against the divorce, specially without a justifiable reason.

 

[gerryh]

This is what you tell yourself and insist on yourself, which is not true.

I tell you this:
Unless the Quran tells me that Jesus was an apostle sent by God, and that the Gospel was revealed from God ... I say unless this is told in the Quran
And I now come to study the present Gospel (without being told in the Quran that God sent Jesus and revealed the Gospel to him), and I come to study the present Gospel and see what Christians say about Jesus that he is the son of God and he is God Himself and that he is part of Trinity
Then I would have been certain that Christianity is only an idolatry: like other idolatry religions: because they say that Jesus is God Himself and that he is the son of God and they make statues for the Christ and his mother, so then I would have been certain that it is the idolatry.
But the thing is that I have been told in the Quran that God sent Jesus and gave him the Gospel.

I really don't give a rats a$$ whether you believe it or not. The fact is, your "prophet" mohamed showed himself as to what he was. He fu cked children, he killed and persecuted countless, he was a minion of satan.

 

[selfsame]

I really don't give a rats a$$ whether you believe it or not. The fact is, your "prophet" mohamed showed himself as to what he was. He fu cked children, he killed and persecuted countless, he was a minion of satan.

This is a lie from only a fanatic one.

 

[MHz]

. . . . The fact is, your "prophet" mohamed showed himself as to what he was. He fu cked children, he killed and persecuted countless, he was a minion of satan.

Are you using the RCC as the role model. That would be 'one child' if the rumor was true, do the RCC Priests marry their 'victims'. As for the rest of you comment, why does the RCC get away with all than and zero condemnation yet any fault with a Muslims means the whole faith should be put into the grave because of 'incidents'? Hypocrite, but so blatant.

 

[gerryh]

Are you using the RCC as the role model. That would be 'one child' if the rumor was true, do the RCC Priests marry their 'victims'. As for the rest of you comment, why does the RCC get away with all than and zero condemnation yet any fault with a Muslims means the whole faith should be put into the grave because of 'incidents'? Hypocrite, but so blatant.

Oh look, another one of satans right hand men jumping right in to defend his compatriot.

 

[Ludlow]

molestation exists in every facet of society.

it's just that not everyone trys to cover it up,,,deny it,,,or justify it.

 

[gerryh]

This is a lie from only a fanatic one.

The "lie" is what you are putting out there. It is a fact that mohamed married a 6 yr old and then fu cked her when she was 9. You admit to old moe being to stupid to learn to read and write, and it is a historical fact that moe made war on anyone and everyone around him.

 

[MHz]

She already knows how to beat up on trolls like you. Not going to defend your Church of baby-****ers?

 

[gerryh]

She already knows how to beat up on trolls like you. Not going to defend your Church of baby-****ers?

and why would I defend any pedophile? I see you just can't avoid trying to deflect, can you. No real argument, as usual, only deflection.

 

[selfsame]

The "lie" is what you are putting out there. It is a fact that mohamed married a 6 yr old and then fu cked her when she was 9. You admit to old moe being to stupid to learn to read and write, and it is a historical fact that moe made war on anyone and everyone around him.

Is there anything in the Quran to confirm your words? No, but it is only a narration; like the imagination that Jesus loved Meriam Magdalite, only because she spoke to him.
So why do you believe such narration, and you see there is nothing in the Quran to confirm it?

While for war; it is another subject: because many prophets before him made use of wars and fighting: like Abraham, Moses, Joshua, Saul, David, Solomon and others.

 

[gerryh]

Is there anything in the Quran to confirm your words? No, but it is only a narration; like the imagination that Jesus loved Maraim Magalite, only because she spoke to him.
So why do you believe such narration, and you see there is nothing in the Quran to confirm it?

While for war; it is another subject: because many prophets before him made use of wars and fighting: like Abraham, Moses, Joshua, Saul, David, Solomon and others.

are you now saying that ol moe didn't marry a 6 yr old? are you saying that he wasn't illiterate?