Colonies on the Moon?

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Stephen Hawking seems to think that humans will have colonies on the moon in 20 years, and on mars in 40 years.

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Any thoughts? Personally I'm a bit skeptical since we haven't gotten to Mars yet, let alone established a colony.
 

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If we(the world)got a self supporting colony going on the moon, it would be a hell of a start. By self supporting, I mean recycling the air and water and growing food etc, so they wouldn't be so tightly tied to the Earth. They will certainly have to do that on Mars. The Moon would be an excellent first step. I may not be quite as optimistic as Stephen Hawking, but it could be done.
 

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Of course it could be done; anything is theoretically possible (including breaking the speed of light).

Whether it happens soon is entirely another matter.

Ultimately humanity will need to "move".
 

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He added that if humans can avoid killing themselves in the next 100 years, they should have space settlements that can continue without support from Earth.

“It is important for the human race to spread out into space for the survival of the species,” Dr. Hawking said. “Life on Earth is at the ever-increasing risk of being wiped out by a disaster, such as sudden global warming, nuclear war, a genetically engineered virus or other dangers we have not yet thought of.”

Well, that's what I always imagine. Even I've written an essay about this. Not exactly the same thing but very close to this.
 

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We'd gain much more by the trillions spent on Earth to prevent such phenomenon than trillions to set up some nearby colony.

Sorry, if I thought there really was a posibility of such a disaster then I want the trillions spent to save MY child and not some elite.

Regardless, in the event of any of the mentioned disasters, the Earth would still be multiple more times habitable than some tenuous colony on a completely hostile environment.
 

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I think this idea is not only to save human spices because at this moment man cannot create living environment neither in Moon nor in Mars.

However, what man can do is that suck the natural resources of those planets and moons.

It's like the movie "Independence Day." Aliens attack the Earth and Humans find out that they are travelling from one planet to another to suck their resources. But it turns out that the authers were wrong. In fact it's man who will fly from planet to planet to suck the resources.

The other thing that those colonies will be helpful is to save time while frying from a planet to planet. Now, it seems very odd. But in future when humankind will achieve faster speed, they will travel to extrasolar planets. Then, instead of coming to the Earth every time they unload to the colonies and they go back. There will be shuttles between the Earth and the planets.

What the h**l am I talking about? Is it science fiction?

No, it's not. :)

At this moment it's unrealistic, but that how the future will look like.
 

gc

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Juan and English Guy,
Yes I agree, it is certainly possible one day. When I said I was skeptical, I mean that I was skeptical about it happening within 20 years.

English Guy, could you explain how it is theoretically possible to break the speed of light? I thought Einstein said that was not possible.
 

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The meaning I put on the word, "colony" is a more or less permanent place where children are born and people don't depend on every shuttle.

I don't know if this is what Hawking had in mind or not, but that will be what is needed to put a colony on Mars.
 

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Yea, I don't think there will be "colonies".

But I think there may be a port of some sorts.

There will be joyflights into orbit for the very rich in the not too distant future and possibly a 5 star hotel in orbit.

After this, I think the concept of a combined space station "moon resort" could be feasible. People would pay big money to be able to do a moonwalk.
 

#juan

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A trip to mars,

will, of necessity, be a colony of sorts because every scenario I've read requires a one to two year wait until the planets are back in optimum positions again. The passengers(read crew)would get a bit tired of that freeze-dried junk the astronauts had, and wouldn't it be safer being under even the thin atmosphere of Mars? Any thoughts?
 

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A waste of time and money. Why should we move to another body in space and ruin that, also. If we could deal with our own realities of abusing this planet, and correct them, why move.
Fascinating? yes, Cool? yes.
Is it just that we are past the point of no return here, we relize it, and we must move on?
 

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Technology is being developed at increasingly greater rates of speed. This is a trend that has been going on for a long, long, time. It is starting to happen at a mind-boggling rate of speed. It is not slowing down!

The next twenty years will likely see much more in the way of advances than the last twenty years has - MUCH MORE. Given this, there is no question we will be able to build moon colonies (I bet we already can right now, though they would be unsustainable and dependent on a constant chain of supplies); we will be able to build moon colonies at a relatively affordable price.
 

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Since there is almost zero chance

that there is life on either the Moon or Mars, we are hardly likely to "screw up" either one. Right now the Moon is the closest and a Moon colony seems a real possibility.
 

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I think a great project

would be to terraform Mars. It would take centuries but a successful result would make it well worth while for man
 

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#juan said:
I think a great project

would be to terraform Mars. It would take centuries but a successful result would make it well worth while for man
I'm not disagreeing with you in any way but, random thought: how would it affect humanity if the population was so geographically divided? Although satellites could allow year-round communication, you would only be able to go to the other one during certian times of the year, and each would have access to different resources. There could be two almost completely separate groups advancing in totally different ways.