China's Execution Buses

temperance

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Torture is defined by the United Nations Convention Against Torture as "any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity." In addition to state sponsored torture, individuals or groups may also inflict torture on others for similar reasons, however, the motive for torture can also be for the sadistic gratification of the torturer, as was the case in the Moors Murders.
Throughout history, torture has often been used as a method of effecting political re-education. Nevertheless in the 21st Century torture is almost universally considered to be an extreme violation of human rights, as stated by the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Signatories of the UN Convention Against Torture agree not to intentionally inflict severe pain or suffering on anyone, to obtain information or a confession, to punish them, or to coerce them or a third person. In times of war signatories of the Third Geneva Convention and Fourth Geneva Convention agree not to torture protected persons (POWs and enemy civilians) in armed conflicts.
The universal legal prohibition is based on a universal philosophical consensus that torture and ill-treatment are repugnant, abhorrent, and immoral.[1] A further moral definition of torture proposes that the sin of torture consists in the disproportionate infliction of pain.[2]
These international conventions and philosophical propositions not withstanding, organizations such as Amnesty International that monitor abuses of human rights report that the use of torture condoned by states is widespread in many regions of the world
 

gopher

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Sorry Love but 2 outta 3 of those presidents believed in slavery wasnt that torture?

One wanted to end slavery in his lifetime and granted freedom to his slaves (actually, his wife's) in his will as an example to others. The other died in the effort to free slaves.
 

tamarin

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Let those buses roll! Wish we had them here. We could stuff them with fraud artists from every nook and cranny in the nation. Why is it that the Chinese increasingly have the lead on every issue?
 

DurkaDurka

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Let those buses roll! Wish we had them here. We could stuff them with fraud artists from every nook and cranny in the nation. Why is it that the Chinese increasingly have the lead on every issue?

The lead on every issue? So your ideal society would consist of execution buses, sweat shops, religious persecution, media censorship etc?
 

tamarin

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No it would consist of one's universities pumping out science grads, swamping global partners with export goods, contesting global leadership in the manufacture of goods from the basic to the most complex, raising a colossus committed to a unified culture and insisting the punishment meet the crime the better to deter it.
 

Zzarchov

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Actually I'd say its more the concept of global trade trying to create a level playing field.

If you have a level playing field, 1/6th the worlds population will get 1/6th its wealth, and we in the G7 won't have 10% of its population and 60% its wealth.