Child sex doll trial opens Pandora's box of questions about child porn

Machjo

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gerryh wrote...

"Just like an 80 yr' old woman in a catholic school girls uniform, in pig tails, bent over a chair and getting nailed from behind is also child pornography."

I still don't understand how this constitutes child pornography. Please enlighten me.

Read the way the law is worded. Though there is some room for interpretation, the wording of the law could allow a judge to interpret it that way.

Are you advocating that it would be 'bad manners' to molest a child in front of a pedo?? (that is some f*cked up)
How about the whole family and friends be put through the same counseling sessions, via video conferencing. That would save on the injuries to the molester from the victim that is now old enough to back up a 'no' (verbal or through some sort of body language.) Most never get to confront their attacker in a 1 on 1. That being done after a lot of practice with a partner so if somebody is going to get flustered it will be the older person.

One of my x-wife's boyfriends happen to be molesting her 12 year old daughter. I didn't find that out until some time after and when I saw him walk down some stairs with a nice looking 'older' woman I was really tempted to say 'Watch out for this guy if you have a 12 yr old daughter.' and then not look back as I continued on my way. The daughter I knew didn't turn out to have had such a great life compared to that of the abuser. The fact that money has changed hands takes away the 'free choice' to say without fear of a reprisal. The ones that did say 'No.' would have been dead before the assault was over. Missing or messed up for life, which is worse when all things are considered??

The cash should be going directly to the molested one rather than the ones that arranged the meeting where the 'No' part was not part of the list of options on the menu. Today that would be 'plus compounded interest' from the time of the attack.
Somebody was advocating,some British turd with a smirk (rather than smile) on his face specifically. Send him a bill for what a child under 6 would cost and he wouldn't be ordering a 2nd one. Perhaps it is time to make sure the child has a ride home and a deposit on their debit card, give the adult in the room the opportunity that this is by his free will.

I got a chill running down my spine when I considered that my x was making money by selling her own kids out

I'm sorry to hear that, but now you're confusing an abuser with a pedophile. A pedophile is merely someone who feels a sexual attraction to children. An abuser acts on it. You see the difference?
 

Remington1

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I agree with that 100%. It's the distinction between being and doing. Never should being something constitute a crime.

If a man is an alcoholic, we should empathize with him, befriend him, and be sensitive to his needs. For example, it might be as simple as choosing to not drink in his presence if he's in the early stages of recovery, or at least not offering and certainly not pressuring him to accept alcohol even in the advanced stages of recovery.The same would apply to a heroin addict or any other kind of addict. If he is not acting on his temptations, then we should applaud him for his efforts and not vilify him. When an addict, a pedophile, or anyone else is willing to be open about his problem and to seek help for it, we should encourage him in his efforts and not punish. He crosses the line only once he acts on his temptations.



So let me get this straight. A pedophile suffers child sex fantasies that he is struggling to control but has not hurt any child yet. He considers his options. Remington is a good friend of his (or so he seems), so he considers maybe telling him about his problem and asking him for advice to see if he might know where he can turn for help. However, he'd heard about how Remington beat up another pedophile who'd done just that before even though that pedophile had not hurt anyone yet either.

Alternatively, he can bottle his feeling up not knowing where to turn for help until he might finally act on it and actually hurt a child.

Now in my mind, it would have been preferable that he seek help without fear before hurting the child. Some people would prefer he hurt a child since then it would give them an excuse to have more fun to give him a bigger beating.

Who cares about the child. It's the fun of beating up a pedophile that matters most, right Remington?



I'm not denying at least the possibility that a sex doll can cause escalation of the behaviour and so some kind of deterrence ought to be built into the law. On the flip side though, would we not rather that a pedophile can feel comfortable seeking help before he hurts a child without being judged for his disease or would we rather he hurt a child so that we can then have a good excuse to beat him up for fun? I'd rather the former myself. You?



Sorry, I don't get the joke.


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Maybe not. But the question here is, whatever punishment should be meted out for buying a sex doll, does that alone warrant imprisonment? A fine, sex-addiction education, a discreet investigation of any child he might have hurt, and maybe informing his spouse would seem to suffice for such a comparatively minor offense.

Imprisonment should be reserved for those who actually at least tried to hurt a child.
"Who cares about the child. It's the fun of beating up a pedophile that matters most, right Remington?" Fu##ing right it would be the fun of beating up a pedophile and if you think that talking about his sick fantasy is enough to stop them from preying on kids, your living in la la land my man. I only wish that these cowards SOB would get it in their perverted head to go and speak openly to their neighbours that they have the hots for their 4 year old little boy or girl!!

"Who cares about the child. It's the fun of beating up a pedophile that matters most, right Remington?" Fu##ing right it would be the fun of beating up a pedophile and if you think that talking about his sick fantasy is enough to stop them from preying on kids, your living in la la land my man. I only wish that these cowards SOB would get it in their perverted head to go and speak openly to their neighbours that they have the hots for their 4 year old little boy or girl!!
"and asking him for advice to see if he might know where he can turn for help" seriously!! and what advice would you give? (since you know what my advice would be!), go buy a baby doll?
 

gerryh

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gerryh wrote...

"Just like an 80 yr' old woman in a catholic school girls uniform, in pig tails, bent over a chair and getting nailed from behind is also child pornography."

I still don't understand how this constitutes child pornography. Please enlighten me.



because the law says it does.... read the law.