Charter of Rights & Freedons - Pros & Cons

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  • The Charter.... has helped us more than it has hurt us

    Votes: 3 42.9%
  • The Charter.... has hurt us more than it has helped us

    Votes: 4 57.1%

  • Total voters
    7

westmanguy

Council Member
Feb 3, 2007
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I want to hear what others have to say about its pros/cons, before I jump in and respond.

My only first opinion is: The Charter is about the rights of I / ME it does not set out the rights of US. To me its all "me, me, me" What about, my rights to others, and our rights as a people. Just a thought, not a concise one though. I think its hurt us more then its helped us though. With judges using it as a scape-goat, to justify themselves.

Thoughts? I am not saying its completely bad, it has very good parts to it, I just see it with some faults and mis-interpruttations from its original intent.
 

FiveParadox

Governor General
Dec 20, 2005
5,875
43
48
Vancouver, BC
In my opinion, the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms—and, in fact, the entirety of the Constitution Acts, 1867–1982, has served the people of Canada beyond the expectations of any of its authors. In fact, I would argue that Canada's constitution is an envy of the world—being that rights and freedoms are paramount, and a strong and independent judicial system is in place to ensure that such paramountcy is maintained.

It's a shame, in my view, that Canada's present administration—namely, the Government of Canada under the leadership of The Right Honourable Stephen Harper P.C., M.P., the Member for Calgary Southwest and the Prime Minister of Canada—has embarked on a mission to cause fundamental changes to our national constitutional framework. I fear that the federation only stands to lose from their misguided initiatives.

(And, on a sidenote, it's nice to be back.)
 

fatbasturd

Electoral Member
Feb 12, 2007
179
2
18
In my opinion, the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms—and, in fact, the entirety of the Constitution Acts, 1867–1982, has served the people of Canada beyond the expectations of any of its authors. In fact, I would argue that Canada's constitution is an envy of the world—being that rights and freedoms are paramount, and a strong and independent judicial system is in place to ensure that such paramountcy is maintained.

It's a shame, in my view, that Canada's present administration—namely, the Government of Canada under the leadership of The Right Honourable Stephen Harper P.C., M.P., the Member for Calgary Southwest and the Prime Minister of Canada—has embarked on a mission to cause fundamental changes to our national constitutional framework. I fear that the federation only stands to lose from their misguided initiatives.

(And, on a sidenote, it's nice to be back.)
Shame is a word that I often apply to the RIGHT HONOURABLE STEPHEN HARPER when i speak of him and his leadership of our great Nation
 

karra

Ranter
Jan 3, 2006
158
3
18
here, there, and everywher
Shame is a word that I often apply to the...
Come now FB - surely you realise your statement could,and most definitely is, more applicable to those who plunged their collective hands directly into your wallet - or have you been hoodwinked by the proliferation of - 'I so totally and consume-ately adore and beweeve evewyting Earwig Mawgowlissssss wites' skool of thought. . . .

As for our illustrious Constitution - Five, as you well know, it has delivered nothing to us that we didn't enjoy prior to. Ooops, lest I forget - where are our property guarantees - anyone know?
 

fatbasturd

Electoral Member
Feb 12, 2007
179
2
18
Come now FB - surely you realise your statement could,and most definitely is, more applicable to those who plunged their collective hands directly into your wallet - or have you been hoodwinked by the proliferation of - 'I so totally and consume-ately adore and beweeve evewyting Earwig Mawgowlissssss wites' skool of thought. . . .

As for our illustrious Constitution - Five, as you well know, it has delivered nothing to us that we didn't enjoy prior to. Ooops, lest I forget - where are our property guarantees - anyone know?
I know of a member who worships the mud Mr Earwig slings more than life it's self....but i must admit sadly that no matter how hard i try...i can not walk that far left:pukeright:
 

darkbeaver

the universe is electric
Jan 26, 2006
41,035
201
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RR1 Distopia 666 Discordia
In my opinion, the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms—and, in fact, the entirety of the Constitution Acts, 1867–1982, has served the people of Canada beyond the expectations of any of its authors. In fact, I would argue that Canada's constitution is an envy of the world—being that rights and freedoms are paramount, and a strong and independent judicial system is in place to ensure that such paramountcy is maintained.

It's a shame, in my view, that Canada's present administration—namely, the Government of Canada under the leadership of The Right Honourable Stephen Harper P.C., M.P., the Member for Calgary Southwest and the Prime Minister of Canada—has embarked on a mission to cause fundamental changes to our national constitutional framework. I fear that the federation only stands to lose from their misguided initiatives.

(And, on a sidenote, it's nice to be back.)

As I live and wheez it's the fabulous FiveP, how are you doing, nice to see you again.:wave:
 

gc

Electoral Member
May 9, 2006
931
20
18
I agree with FiveParadox....and it's good to see you're back :wave:
 

westmanguy

Council Member
Feb 3, 2007
1,651
18
38
That is my biggest problem with it. To much rights to criminals and not enough for victims. That IMO is not at all balanced. I would like to see that altered very much so. Basic rights is right on L Gilbert. They deserve food, clothing, hygiene, warmth, and a bed. No media, no voting privelages, etc. And more lengthier sentences.. well thats a bit off-topic. But I feel the rights of criminals outweigh the rights of victims...which is wrong.