Carolyn Parrish

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Musicman said:
Anyone, whatever color or religion, that causes death and terror without justification is a target. And before all of you say that Bush is now a target, need I remind you of the original WTC bombings, the Embassies around the world, the attack on the USS Cole, and 9-11 were all done as first strikes, not retaliation for any US or any other countries attacks. Only after 9-11 did the US respond, with total justification. And yes, that includes the Oklahoma City Bombers, one of which has been executed, and the IRA. It takes no courage to deliberately attack innocent civilians to make your point. Yes, in armed conflict, innocent civilians are injured and hurt, but during an armed conflict, there is unfortunately the potential of this happening. Going to work on the 80th floor of the WTC should not have that potential, being drydocked in a port should have have that potential, and leaving your kids in daycare certainly should not have that potential.

Interesting points...

Did you know that of the bombings attributed to them, not one has been proven to be the work of Al Qaeda. So the US has declared their "War on Terror" based upon circumstantial evidence...

Pheckin' funny that... :evil:
 

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Vanni Fucci said:
Musicman said:
I meant exactly what I said, Vanni Fucci. What part is confusing to you?

So then I paraphrased correctly... :lol: :lol:

No, I do not recall anywhere where I said anything about George Bush being an asshole, or anyone else. What I provided, which any reasonable person could recognise, was a series of events which could have justified the Iraq invasion instead of WMD. Perhaps you are not reasonable?
 

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Re: RE: Carolyn Parrish

Vanni Fucci said:
Musicman said:
Anyone, whatever color or religion, that causes death and terror without justification is a target. And before all of you say that Bush is now a target, need I remind you of the original WTC bombings, the Embassies around the world, the attack on the USS Cole, and 9-11 were all done as first strikes, not retaliation for any US or any other countries attacks. Only after 9-11 did the US respond, with total justification. And yes, that includes the Oklahoma City Bombers, one of which has been executed, and the IRA. It takes no courage to deliberately attack innocent civilians to make your point. Yes, in armed conflict, innocent civilians are injured and hurt, but during an armed conflict, there is unfortunately the potential of this happening. Going to work on the 80th floor of the WTC should not have that potential, being drydocked in a port should have have that potential, and leaving your kids in daycare certainly should not have that potential.

Interesting points...

Did you know that of the bombings attributed to them, not one has been proven to be the work of Al Qaeda. So the US has declared their "War on Terror" based upon circumstantial evidence...

Pheckin' funny that... :evil:

Please, Vanni Fucci, there are probably as many articles and links I could find, if I was inclined to, to dispute your claim. If you will recall, the blind cleric in the original WTC bombing has ties to Al Qaeda. And it is not funny at all.
 

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Musicman said:
Vanni Fucci said:
Musicman said:
I meant exactly what I said, Vanni Fucci. What part is confusing to you?

So then I paraphrased correctly... :lol: :lol:

No, I do not recall anywhere where I said anything about George Bush being an asshole, or anyone else. What I provided, which any reasonable person could recognise, was a series of events which could have justified the Iraq invasion instead of WMD. Perhaps you are not reasonable?

Perhaps I'm not...

...but then again, it was not me that suggested that the crimes of Saddam Hussein necessitated illegal unilateral action, or that it was an imperative for the US to IGNORE international law...

So perhaps it is you that is without reason... :wink:
 

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Re: RE: Carolyn Parrish

Vanni Fucci said:
Musicman said:
Anyone, whatever color or religion, that causes death and terror without justification is a target. And before all of you say that Bush is now a target, need I remind you of the original WTC bombings, the Embassies around the world, the attack on the USS Cole, and 9-11 were all done as first strikes, not retaliation for any US or any other countries attacks. Only after 9-11 did the US respond, with total justification. And yes, that includes the Oklahoma City Bombers, one of which has been executed, and the IRA. It takes no courage to deliberately attack innocent civilians to make your point. Yes, in armed conflict, innocent civilians are injured and hurt, but during an armed conflict, there is unfortunately the potential of this happening. Going to work on the 80th floor of the WTC should not have that potential, being drydocked in a port should have have that potential, and leaving your kids in daycare certainly should not have that potential.

Interesting points...

Did you know that of the bombings attributed to them, not one has been proven to be the work of Al Qaeda. So the US has declared their "War on Terror" based upon circumstantial evidence...

Pheckin' funny that... :evil:

Are you kidding? You are joking right? There are video and audio tapes by Bin Laden et al admitting to involvment in these acts of terrorism. What more proof do you want? The evidence is overwhelming. Confession by the guilty always supercedes any other type of evidence. In addition, several of the Al Qaeda prisoners have also admitted to being accomplises in these acts of terrorism.
 

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Nascar_James said:
Are you kidding? You are joking right? There are video and audio tapes by Bin Laden et al admitting to involvment in these acts of terrorism. What more proof do you want? The evidence is overwhelming. Confession by the guilty always supercedes any other type of evidence....

A great many audio experts have disputed the veracity of both Bin Laden confession videos...and have stated that such tapes would be relatively easy to forge...

Nascar_James said:
...In addition, several of the Al Qaeda prisoners have also admitted to being accomplises in these acts of terrorism.

Confessions obtained by torture are not very reliable...
 

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Re: RE: Carolyn Parrish

Vanni Fucci said:
Nascar_James said:
Are you kidding? You are joking right? There are video and audio tapes by Bin Laden et al admitting to involvment in these acts of terrorism. What more proof do you want? The evidence is overwhelming. Confession by the guilty always supercedes any other type of evidence....

A great many audio experts have disputed the veracity of both Bin Laden confession videos...and have stated that such tapes would be relatively easy to forge...

They were probably hired by the Liberal Party of Canada

Nascar_James said:
...In addition, several of the Al Qaeda prisoners have also admitted to being accomplises in these acts of terrorism.

Confessions obtained by torture are not very reliable...

Nor are your statements. Ignoring the facts in favor of paranoia is dangerous. Have you seen a doctor? :lol:
 

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Re: RE: Carolyn Parrish

Musicman said:
Vanni Fucci said:
Nascar_James said:
Are you kidding? You are joking right? There are video and audio tapes by Bin Laden et al admitting to involvment in these acts of terrorism. What more proof do you want? The evidence is overwhelming. Confession by the guilty always supercedes any other type of evidence....

A great many audio experts have disputed the veracity of both Bin Laden confession videos...and have stated that such tapes would be relatively easy to forge...

They were probably hired by the Liberal Party of Canada

Nascar_James said:
...In addition, several of the Al Qaeda prisoners have also admitted to being accomplises in these acts of terrorism.

Confessions obtained by torture are not very reliable...

Nor are your statements. Ignoring the facts in favor of paranoia is dangerous. Have you seen a doctor? :lol:

Ha! Good one Musicman.
 

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Mr. Feckin' Musicman said:
Vanni Fucci said:
A great many audio experts have disputed the veracity of both Bin Laden confession videos...and have stated that such tapes would be relatively easy to forge...

They were probably hired by the Liberal Party of Canada

You know Mr. Feckin' Musicman, your statements of ignorance are starting to become hauntingly familiar...

I sense something...a presence I've not felt since...


Mr. Feckin' Musicman said:
Vanni Fucci said:
Confessions obtained by torture are not very reliable...

Nor are your statements. Ignoring the facts in favor of paranoia is dangerous. Have you seen a doctor? :lol:

What facts are those, I wonder?

That the US government has lied to the world time and again over the issues of 911, Afghanistan and Iraq, or that people are far too willing to believe what's convenient for them, rather than actually hold these bastards accountable?
 

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Re: RE: Carolyn Parrish

Vanni Fucci said:
Mr. Feckin' Musicman said:
Vanni Fucci said:
A great many audio experts have disputed the veracity of both Bin Laden confession videos...and have stated that such tapes would be relatively easy to forge...

They were probably hired by the Liberal Party of Canada

You know Mr. Feckin' Musicman, your statements of ignorance are starting to become hauntingly familiar...

I sense something...a presence I've not felt since...


Mr. Feckin' Musicman said:
Vanni Fucci said:
Confessions obtained by torture are not very reliable...

Nor are your statements. Ignoring the facts in favor of paranoia is dangerous. Have you seen a doctor? :lol:

What facts are those, I wonder?

That the US government has lied to the world time and again over the issues of 911, Afghanistan and Iraq, or that people are far too willing to believe what's convenient for them, rather than actually hold these bastards accountable?

Ah, Vanni Fucci, you must go back and read the previous posts to get the facts, especially about who actually had the first strike. The terrorists did, Vanni Fucci, not the US. I will hold them accountable, but it seems your extreme hatred of anything US has affected your thinking so that you are unable to consider anything but your intense hatred and obsession with the US. Certainly they are not perfect, but they beat the alternative, in my opinion. Or would you prefer the Russians were the sole surviving superpower?
 

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Musicman said:
Ah, Vanni Fucci, you must go back and read the previous posts to get the facts, especially about who actually had the first strike. The terrorists did, Vanni Fucci, not the US. I will hold them accountable, but it seems your extreme hatred of anything US has affected your thinking so that you are unable to consider anything but your intense hatred and obsession with the US. Certainly they are not perfect, but they beat the alternative, in my opinion. Or would you prefer the Russians were the sole surviving superpower?

First of all, you don't know a goddamn thing about me...

Second of all, apart from confession tapes of spurious origins, there is absolutely NO, that right NO evidence that any of those attacks were carried out by terrorists, much less some mysterious group named Al Qaeda, that no one had ever heard of before January 2001.

Thirdly, the Bush administration knew of the whereabouts of Bin Laden on September 10, 2001. The Clinton administration had been offered by the Saudis to extradite Bin Laden, and had been refused every time. That was AFTER his alleged terror organization had allegedly bombed the US Embassies...

If you'd read something other than the Western Standard, maybe you'd know what's going on in the pheckin' world...
 

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Jeez Musicman, howcum none of your quotes and formatting efforts display properly? It's hard to figure out where you're talking and where you're quoting someone in your posts, so it's a little difficult to make sense of them. Maybe you should pay a little more attention to what you're doing, and remember that the preview button is your friend. I'd respond to you, I think, if I could more easily figure out what you're saying and what somebody else is saying in your posts.
 

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Re: RE: Carolyn Parrish

Vanni Fucci said:
Musicman said:
Ah, Vanni Fucci, you must go back and read the previous posts to get the facts, especially about who actually had the first strike. The terrorists did, Vanni Fucci, not the US. I will hold them accountable, but it seems your extreme hatred of anything US has affected your thinking so that you are unable to consider anything but your intense hatred and obsession with the US. Certainly they are not perfect, but they beat the alternative, in my opinion. Or would you prefer the Russians were the sole surviving superpower?

First of all, you don't know a goddamn thing about me...

Second of all, apart from confession tapes of spurious origins, there is absolutely NO, that right NO evidence that any of those attacks were carried out by terrorists, much less some mysterious group named Al Qaeda, that no one had ever heard of before January 2001.

Thirdly, the Bush administration knew of the whereabouts of Bin Laden on September 10, 2001. The Clinton administration had been offered by the Saudis to extradite Bin Laden, and had been refused every time. That was AFTER his alleged terror organization had allegedly bombed the US Embassies...

If you'd read something other than the Western Standard, maybe you'd know what's going on in the pheckin' world...




Vanni Fucci: Perhaps you had not heard of Al Qaeda prior to 2001, but you may be the only one. And, sorry, without links, I will not accept your premise that the US knew where bin Laden was just before 9/11.

So, who carried out the attacks if not terrorists? Peace lovers? I doubt it.

And I don't read the Western Standard, what is it?
 

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Dexter Sinister said:
Jeez Musicman, howcum none of your quotes and formatting efforts display properly? It's hard to figure out where you're talking and where you're quoting someone in your posts, so it's a little difficult to make sense of them. Maybe you should pay a little more attention to what you're doing, and remember that the preview button is your friend. I'd respond to you, I think, if I could more easily figure out what you're saying and what somebody else is saying in your posts.


Dex, I don't know. I press the quote button and this is what happens. Help please! What am I doing wrong?
 

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Dexter Sinister said:
Jeez Musicman, howcum none of your quotes and formatting efforts display properly? It's hard to figure out where you're talking and where you're quoting someone in your posts, so it's a little difficult to make sense of them. Maybe you should pay a little more attention to what you're doing, and remember that the preview button is your friend. I'd respond to you, I think, if I could more easily figure out what you're saying and what somebody else is saying in your posts.

I updated my profile and this seems to work, thanks Dex.
 

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Re: RE: Carolyn Parrish

Musicman said:
Vanni Fucci: Perhaps you had not heard of Al Qaeda prior to 2001, but you may be the only one. And, sorry, without links, I will not accept your premise that the US knew where bin Laden was just before 9/11.

You are correct, in that prior to January 25, 2001, when Al Qaeda first was brought up in a Whitehouse situation room, CNN.com had written exactly 20 articles, of about 50,000 in total, referring to the Al Qaeda terror network.

Here's a link for you...

So, who carried out the attacks if not terrorists? Peace lovers? I doubt it.

Nope...Warmongerers actually...

Pay particularly close attention to the part about the need for a Pearl Harbor style attack... :wink:

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/nc-pilger.html

Musicman said:
And I don't read the Western Standard, what is it?

:roll:
 

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Vanni Fucci said:
Now then...no more posting off topic crap in this thread...

I've created a place to post the topic of Al Qaeda here.

Okay. To get back on topic here, Carolyn Parrish is still rude and ignorant and an insult to Canadians in general.