Canadian independence?

Daz_Hockey

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RE: Canadian independence

getting Trudea to sign a form that stops us from being bothered while we were in some serious financial difficulties was fine by us, and it was fine by you...everyone's a winner.

("evolution not revolution"?, you havent been reading those socialist pamplets again have you ITN?) :p
 

I think not

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Re: RE: Canadian independence

Daz_Hockey said:
("evolution not revolution"?, you havent been reading those socialist pamplets again have you ITN?) :p

Why yes, just today I was reading The Village Voice at Katz's Deli. :p
 

Daz_Hockey

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hehehe I'm not sure about over there, but the "village voice" here is a very gay-friendly magazine for like minded males!! ;)

ah Katz's......I'll be back, just gotta save another $2k...got $18k eqiv for my world tour so far...it's coming along
 

I think not

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Re: RE: Canadian independence

Daz_Hockey said:
hehehe I'm not sure about over there, but the "village voice" here is a very gay-friendly magazine for like minded males!! ;)

ah Katz's......I'll be back, just gotta save another $2k...got $18k eqiv for my world tour so far...it's coming along

It is gay-friendly, that's whats readily available in the village, and its very left wing.
 

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Canada never formly declared independence, like the USA. But our nationhood has come slowly starting with the BNA act in the 19th centry. So in 1920 Canada was not a colony but a sort of nation. Some say it was ww1 when Canada became a nation, because at the start the UK declared war for Canada, but at the end of the war Canada was present at the peace talks as a nation and actually during the war many nations like Canada were given more rights in different war councils with the UK. Of course many point out that it may have been the start of ww2 when Canada declared war a day later then the UK. Of course others would say it was when we brought the constitution home. However my university course more or less pointed out it was all these things. Canada never stood up and formly said it but slowly moved towards it. Partly because of the UK's free market economy no longer really needed colonies such as Canada which benifited from mercantilism of the former system.
 

china

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I think not:As an outsider, I would argue you will never know the moment you became independent. Your indepedence is a product of evolution not revolution--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
A revolution leads to independents (eg. US OF A),
an evolution leads to stagnation (Canada)
As an "insider" for 40 ys what I have noticed is that majority of Canadians like to be told what to do ,they dont like to make sound , original decisions , they copy others eg.The Canadian goverment is a copy of the English gov.They critsize the US without realizing that if Us pulls out ,the shelfs will be empty ,and someone else ,will move in (probably Chinese ) and there goes" I stand on guard for thee".
I can,t stand it no more,Call Pancho Lopez and let's have a nice revolution.
 

tamarin

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Independence has always been a political football. It's never had any substance on the street. Pierre Trudeau played the card for personal and selfish reasons. He wanted to leave his stamp permanently on Canada. So much for his regard for our independence. We were freer in the 60's than we are now. We had a greater sense of who we were. The independence freaks stole that.
 

china

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TAMARIN : You are so right about Trudeau using his "power" for his personal and selfish reasons .I also agree that we were freer before the '82.Again ,we can bitch about it ,write posts or we could think seriously about reganing this freedom.Can it be done ...?
I think so .Anybody for it?
 

tamarin

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The Old Canada I grew up in and was so free in seems almost mythical now. It was handed over to the courts and all of its august, moneygrubbing reps by the PET government of '82. One of Canada's most shameful years.
 

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Canada is an independent nation, which elects our own government who has complete control over policy. Yes we have a monarch (who is a rubber stamp), but for the reality is we make our own decisions. As a Republican I would love to see Canada as a Republic but really it is not needed to be a Nation. We may not be able to pin point our independence like the states can but we can study the progression of Canadian independence through history and the acts of our past great leaders.