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[SleepinIn]

LMAO. That's so awesome. I'm feeling better about Sleepwalker as a single for Adam.. because even though I hate it, I'll have a mental image of Kris roaming the halls of a hotel in Hersey, PA Naked.. lol.

and LOL Ross. I don't think they're throwing Sleepwalker at us because we're going to accept any old single... I think they picked it because the song was written by Ryan Tedder.. and sounds like it. I think they think it's a sure bet. And it probably is, I can see it being a big hit. I just don't like the song, doesn't mean radio won't.


EEE.. 6 more segments!! It's Christmas!

Other interview from today. I love Kris's face when they talk about a good wife being a good pillow arranger. LOL

Photos: Kris Allen In The Fresh 102.7 Studio Fresh 102.7 – Today's Fresh Music

Brian Melo has a new video - I wish I liked the song as much as I like his voice. Want desperately to see the top of his head - Just once. Not sure it exists.

YouTube - Brian Melo Soundproof (Official Video)

 

[missaddicted]

Gah, that acoustic version of AWM is awesome! Kris Allen Performs 'Alright With Me' | News Video | MTV

 

[ross 1]

and LOL Ross. I don't think they're throwing Sleepwalker at us because we're going to accept any old single... I think they picked it because the song was written by Ryan Tedder.. and sounds like it. I think they think it's a sure bet. And it probably is, I can see it being a big hit. I just don't like the song, doesn't mean radio won't. :icon_smile:

I wasn't just talking about Sleepwalker, that was just an example. I think it's kind of odd that after FYE bombed here they promoted it in Canada and Canada played it, and it became a hit. I mean, I heard it on the radio here - it played - it just didn't take off. So, why would a label take a song that was a proven flop and promote it in another country? Wouldn't they assume it would flop there, too? But they didn't assume that. Why not? I'm just trying to figure out how they think.

Anyhow, Kris's interview with Jim: LOL! (Jim told Kris he should wear longer shirts. Kris will now probably return to wearing three layers.)

Sleepwalking - that was hilarious! Like a nightmare.

I used to sleepwalk when I was younger. One time my mom had to physically stop me because I was walking out the front door naked. Thanks, Mom!

ETA: I was searching Kris on Google and when this headline came up. At first, I thought Kris was doing a show with Insane Clown Posse! lol
http://articles.mcall.com/2010-10-1...1018-20101018_1_lifehouse-lv-music-kris-allen

(BTW, Does the font look different tonight, here, to you guys? It looks bigger, to me.)

 

[SleepinIn]

Gah, that acoustic version of AWM is awesome!

It IS!!! I love it so much!

I used to sleepwalk when I was younger. One time my mom had to physically stop me because I was walking out the front door naked. Thanks, Mom!

Is this a guy thing?? LOL

I wasn't just talking about Sleepwalker, that was just an example. I think it's kind of odd that after FYE bombed here they promoted it in Canada and Canada played it, and it became a hit. I mean, I heard it on the radio here - it played - it just didn't take off. So, why would a label take a song that was a proven flop and promote it in another country? Wouldn't they assume it would flop there, too? But they didn't assume that. Why not? I'm just trying to figure out how they think.

That kind of plays into my theory about the MMVA's. I think right after Adam sang it on the AMA's CTV/CHUM/MUCH etc (same company remember) saw it.. and thought.. RATINGS! So I think they wanted him to play the MMVA's right away. They really promoted him on MOD and it was funny to watch it daily because it went from indifference in the studio audience to genuine excitement for FYE and the video was eye-catching which always works on a video show. MOD was only playing like 5 videos an hour and it consistently (Glamberts unite) was at the top of the heap. So it got played on tv every day. It makes a difference as we've seen from VH1 etc. and it's effect on itunes. So if it's getting seen, then more people know about it, more people request it on the radio etc. But, yeah, that's my theory and I'm sticking to it. Ratings for CTV etc. and Tv presence for RCA/Adam. Win win for both of them.

 

[missaddicted]

Speaking from my experience from the radio here in Montréal, the song FYE took of by itself. It was played here and it just became a success. Radio here can be quite different from elsewhere in Canada or in the U.S. Lady Gaga was popular on the radio here MONTHS before her songs ever played in the U.S or in the rest of Canada. So I don't think RCA/Sony had to assume anything in the case of the Montréal market, the song just didn't flop here. The radio didn't decide to play the song after it had flopped in the U.S. They started to play it at the same time and here it worked, simple as that.

 

[ross 1]

I agree with your theory, although FYE was on VH1 Top 20 countdown and was seen, but it didn't help in that case.

I think MOD was actually part of the reason FYE was promoted in Canada - because the US has no such show. I think that they had this video and it had tanked in the US, and Canada has a daily video show on which to play it. And I also agree with your theory.

It's funny but I think the cancellation of TRL on MTV was a disaster for the Idols in the US. And a disaster for a lot of new artists. Think of certain Canadian bands, like our boys from Hedley, and where they would be now without MOD having promoted them and playing their videos.

We just saw Kris's interview with Jim - and how well he interviews. He was made for a show like TRL. Yet there are a lot of people who say, "Where's Kris Allen been since he won Idol?" They hear him on the radio, but haven't seen him, because without TRL there isn't the daily TV exposure - the videos and the onscreen appearances. Plus, a show like TRL helps people put a face on songs they hear on the radio. And maybe most important, it promotes music to kids. The description you gave of how FYE took off on MOD says it all.

The radio didn't decide to play the song after it had flopped in the U.S. They started to play it at the same time and here it worked, simple as that.

That's true. I seem to remember that. But I'm pretty sure the video didn't take off on MOD until it and the song had flopped in the US.

 

[SleepinIn]

So true about TRL and MOD - MOD is no more though.. It was cancelled or stopped production.

The radio didn't decide to play the song after it had flopped in the U.S. They started to play it at the same time and here it worked, simple as that.

That's a good point too.

Ooooo.. Michael's posting a Kris interview at midnight..

 

[ross 1]

EWMichaelSlezak
The three days of Kris-mas begin at 11:59 p.m. ET at http://popwatch.ew.com/ #alrightwithme

Aaargh! You guys are too fast for me!

ETA: MOD was cancelled? When did that happen? So will there still be the MMVAs?

Hey, do you guys remember that Slezak was not especially a fan of Alright With Me when the album was released? I wonder if it has grown on him.

I just listened to the Slezak version of AWM. Even better than the Cantiello version! (I just listened to it a second time with headphones. I forget to do that most of the time, but when I do it really improves the quality of the sound compared to my laptop speakers.)

What's the other, "controversial" song, do you think?

 

[SleepinIn]

Hee... I had to stay up to listen.. what's up with EW's fascination with 11:59 anyway? They always post at 11:59

MOD just didn't air one day and it still hasn't - no info given by the channel (although I have to admit I don't watch Gossip Girl so if they've given any info in that time period.. out of luck) I think they cut some salaries. Tim Deegan tweeted that he didn't have a job anymore on MOD though, and I don't think he works there anymore and Devon is working on the news so he's gone too. MMVA's will probably still happen unless the station is broke. But they are doing other shows, so I don't see why they wouldn't air MMVA's. But, CTV.. who knows? They cancelled CI afterall..

3 days of Kris-mas makes me happy.

Hey, do you guys remember that Slezak was not especially a fan of Alright With Me when the album was released? I wonder if it has grown on him.

I wonder that too. But, he was wrong about the song not being awesome. It is.

 

[SleepinIn]

Kris and Cale make an appearance in Alyssa's video

YouTube - Smoke and Mirrors Tour: Long Island Recap!

 

[SleepinIn]

Really interesting interview with Jim from AInews.

Jim Cantiello – MTV’s Pop Guru | With Josh

 

[ross 1]

I don't understand how someone can not be on key, live, but be "great in the studio." What does this mean? I never understand what that really means. Isn't the person singing live, in the studio? Unless they're autotuned, how can they be great , only in the studio?

In part 3, Cantiello and I discuss who he thinks is the worst American Idol winner. His answer may surprise you and I look forward to reading your responses

Really? Who was surprised by that answer?

It's like a game of take-away when Jim gives Kris an interview and a chance to promo his new single, then immediately afterwards, he does this interview and says he doesn't care for the single. I don't find Jim very sincere - never have, that's really nothing new. He's one way to people's faces and another behind their backs. Me complaining about that is nothing new, either. Sorry if I repeat myself. But I don't think anyone like that can ever get really far in the business. People have long memories.

 

[missaddicted]

It's like a game of take-away when Jim gives Kris an interview and a chance to promo his new single, then immediately afterwards, he does this interview and says he doesn't care for the single.

I'm 99% sure he was talking about The Truth, since the interview was done a while ago, if I remember correctly. Definitely before AWM became the single. Jim was thrilled on twitter when AWM was announced as the new single, I'm sure he didn't fake that.

 

[ross 1]

Then the timing of this interview being released today was very unfortunate because it all he says is something like "current single."

I thought he might have been talking about TT. The fact is, I still think that stuff about Jim, though.

Zap2it likes AWM:

'American Idol': Kris Allen unplugs his single 'Alright with Me' - From Inside the Box - Zap2it

And another one:

http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2010/10/its-alright-with-kris-allen/

SleepinIn, I feel somehow that this is for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5PLCUCD0-o&feature=youtu.be

(God how I hate that song. Even Jamaican.)

 

[SleepinIn]

Yeah for me he was talking about TT, and I don't really expect him to love everything anyway. I think Jim's always been pretty honest with his feelings. So I'm okay with that. Even if he didn't like AWM.. I'd still be okay with that. Actually sometimes Kris didn't seem to like TT either, LOL.

But, yes.. Zap2it and the Hollywood Reporter liking it works for me.

OMG.. it's up early!! lol

YouTube - Kris Allen - 'No Boundaries' Acoustic-Reggae Performance

I kinda love it. LOL

I want to hug it, squeeze it and call it my very own.

 

[ross 1]

Jim is just too snide and mocking for my taste, I guess.

By the way, The Truth hasn't been a "new single" since May, so are you guys saying that's when this interview was taped? Five months ago? That seems strange, doesn't it?

 

[missaddicted]

They were talking about current singles, I'm pretty sure. Not new singles. A few weeks ago, The Truth was still the current single. Adam doesn't have a new single, If I Had You was his current single a few weeks ago, but it's certainly not new.

Like SleepinIn, I feel that Jim has always been pretty honest about his opinions. He's not one to hide how he's feeling about something. Anyway, that's how I see him.

LMAO! The No Boundaries thing is HILARIOUS, I love it. I was amazed that Kris remembered the lyrics and then Cale started doing harmonies and I was like "did they rehearse this?". LOL.

 

[ross 1]

Like SleepinIn, I feel that Jim has always been pretty honest about his opinions. He's not one to hide how he's feeling about something. Anyway, that's how I see him.

Okay, but just remember I tried to warn you guys about Rickey. lol

Seriously, it's too bad interviews like this, which are all present-tense in their conversation, are not released in a timely manner. All they do is sit and talk, in a two-shot. There are no fancy shots, there's no particular editing involved. Why would it take them several weeks to put it out?

And yeah, Jim is honest about his opinions, but I find his role sort of unformed. He's not a critic. He's not an Entertainment Tonight type of reporter, who only reports the facts without personal commentary. Nor is he an ET type of interviewer who always is positive and keeps personal opinions to himself. He's neither fish nor fowl, and I think that could be a problem. An example is the Lee DeWyze story.
He humorously disses people then he has to meet and interview them. I could not do that. I'm not saying I'm any better than him - I just wouldn't be comfortable in that role, constantly having to chance faces depending on who is there at the moment.

As for giving his honest opinion, even if it's unpleasant, I know this is greatly admired, especially by younger generations than mine. But I still believe it's okay to shut up and just say nothing. Like in the case of saying he didn't like Kris's single. Why was that necessary? Kris has practically put Jim on the map, for some people. He always treats Jim as an equal. I think Jim owes him some loyalty. So why not just choose not to say what you think? Kris certainly doesn't say what he thinks about everything, and we all seem to love him for being a person of loyalty and discretion.

Show business is a rather tawdry buiness and to me, Jim, much as I enjoy him, fits right in, while I like Kris especially because he seems a little better.

 

[ross 1]

Anyhow, none of this is important, really. I didn't mean to sidetrack the discussion. So we should probably just move on.

Meanwhile, the acoustic AWM is getting a lot of attention (as is the reggae NB, to some extent).

 

[SleepinIn]

This is really interesting. Hedley's doing a movie theatre special with their new DVD. It's playing one night and the band is doing a performance and a Q&A by satelite.

Movies - Hedley: Go With The Show - LIVE in HD!