Canadian Idol Fans Watching American Idol
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lol. I think that's a nice way of saying you didn't agree with anything I wrote!
Just read Slezak's recap. Speaking of Adam, he's not getting much love over there tonight in the comments. Anyway, I'm glad the whole Adam-on-Idol episode is over.
I'm wondering now, do we have to wait for the finale to see Kris on there again? It's kind of a shame the winner does his bit on the finale, since there are so many acts, he gets kind of lost in the shuffle. On the other hand, a lot of people are watching.
But I remember Kris saying he'd be on the show later in April. That makes me think he was originally going to be on IGB? Or maybe he will perform in April? Or maybe that's all changed.
Well, I guess he'd need a new single to promote before going back to perform on AI (yes I'm tired of waiting... as if you didn't know!). I'm thinking he'll do it on the finale.
But that's okay. LOL! We like what we like and we shouldn't have to apologize for either liking or disliking something. I think you know I do like Adam, I'll probably buy the remix Cd and I actually think Voodoo is stronger than anything Adam has on FYE, I kinda wish it was his next single. IIHY sounds dated to me but whatever they don't consult with me on these things. I do find it extremly annoying that Adam is hinting they'll be doing a video for IIHY before they even release Kris's next single. I need another single.
I think the next time Kris will be on Idol is probably the finale.
Mentions on twitter of Kris in the promo for When I was 17 -- airing May 1st!
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Well, I guess what I meant was, do you feel he emotionally connects to his music, or do you feel (like me) that he isn't very deep, and he just performs? Since we were talking about that, I was just interested in what you thought about my opinion on that. It's okay if you don't agree, or tell me to go **** myself, but, just interested in your take on it. Like, does he make you feel anything? Do you think he feels anything? Etc.
As for the songs, Voodoo, vs IIHY, I'm not gonna lie, I don't know these songs. I don't listen to Adam's album. The way I look at Idol is that while the season is ongoing, I try to participate, and listen to everyone, and I get interested in them as people, but after the season, I probably am not going to listen to some of these people. After the season ends it's only about who I like, for me.
Well, I guess what I meant was, do you feel he emotionally connects to his music, or do you feel (like me) that he isn't very deep, and he just performs? Since we were talking about that, I was just interested in what you thought about my opinion on that. It's okay if you don't agree, or tell me to go **** myself, but, just interested in your take on it. Like, does he make you feel anything? Do you think he feels anything? Etc.
As for the songs, Voodoo, vs IIHY, I'm not gonna lie, I don't know these songs. I don't listen to Adam's album. The way I look at Idol is that while the season is ongoing, I try to participate, and listen to everyone, and I get interested in them as people, but after the season, I probably am not going to listen to some of these people. After the season ends it's only about who I like, for me.
Yeah, I get what you're saying. Kris makes me feel every song he sings from his heart. I do feel Adam, but it's different for sure. Hard to really explain -- They just have different styles. I like them both for different reasons. For me Adam does have a wow factor when he's performing, but you know, Kris does too. They are just completely different performers. Does Adam feel his songs? I think he does.. and it depends on the song. I think sometimes he gets caught up in creating drama and loses sight of the emotional centre. He tends to go for the smoke and mirrors -- but that has it's place too.
Oh, me too. For sure. There's 100's of them I will never even think to look for information on. Jorge.. and the 100's I don't remember.
That's one of the reasons I find the TWOP troll so funny for posting that Kris is forgetable every day for almost a year. If he was forgetable.. you would move on, it's because they see something in him that they feel so threatened.
Haha. Good point. maybe you should write those very words, over there on TWoP. I know that's not really your style, but maybe you could word it oh-so-politely.
I guess so. It's one of the odder aspects of pop music, to me. It's seems to be without heart. But yeah, it has its place.
Kris and Cale are hilarious.
YouTube - Kris Allen talks about The Biebs
YouTube - Kris Allen Live Like We're Dying
YouTube - Kris Allen talks about The Biebs
YouTube - Kris Allen Live Like We're Dying
So let me elaborate on my twitter story. The lady I know who's the Adam fan and another lady who I came to discover is a Kris fan were all over each other, where I work yesterday, about Kris and Adam. I exaggerate slightly, they just had an argument while people waited patiently in line.
I was like, "Ladies, ladies..."
It really was not about Kris, per se, much more about one lady asking the other one what she saw in Adam, who she seriously does not like, apparently. The other lady said Adam reminded her of Frank Sinatra (!), and this got a snort from the Kris fan who said that Kris is much more like Sinatra than Adam. These are not young women I'm talking about!
Then the Adam fan said she liked how Adam looks, the Kris fan said she doesn't like men in dresses. The Adam fan agreed dresses are a fashion don't for Adam. Then they went after the album covers. "He just looks like a boy, to me." "Really? To me, that's a very attractive gentleman." "Well, to each his own, but to me, that's sexy." "That?? Oh God. He has more mascara on than I do."
Etc.
I was like, "Ladies, ladies..."
It really was not about Kris, per se, much more about one lady asking the other one what she saw in Adam, who she seriously does not like, apparently. The other lady said Adam reminded her of Frank Sinatra (!), and this got a snort from the Kris fan who said that Kris is much more like Sinatra than Adam. These are not young women I'm talking about!
Then the Adam fan said she liked how Adam looks, the Kris fan said she doesn't like men in dresses. The Adam fan agreed dresses are a fashion don't for Adam. Then they went after the album covers. "He just looks like a boy, to me." "Really? To me, that's a very attractive gentleman." "Well, to each his own, but to me, that's sexy." "That?? Oh God. He has more mascara on than I do."
Etc.
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Read the thread and be very frightened.
Whatever happened to just enjoying music? I'd like to go back to when people didn't actually do this **** and you could suppose the chart numbers were fairly accurate.
Read the thread and be very frightened.
Whatever happened to just enjoying music? I'd like to go back to when people didn't actually do this **** and you could suppose the chart numbers were fairly accurate.
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This is really cool: Kris Allen Signs a Publishing Deal with Universal Music | mjsbigblog
Congrats Kris!
Congrats Kris!
Hee! - I did about 200 pages ago. But then, I figure, why waste the time responding to nonsense? So I basically laugh and move on, unless it's super, super annoying. It's not like anyone reading the thread is unaware of the troll.
They really are hilarious. Was this the performance where they talked about Walmart being like Chuckie Cheese in Arkansas? I almost died. They really reminded me of Jann Arden in these radio shows. She's hysterically funny and then she sings songs about heartbreak. Seeing the beauty and tragedy in life, is a gift.
This is from Jann's concert that I went to this year. She sang one of her most well known songs which is really kinda dark and then stops and switches it up mid-song changing the whole mood of the show. It made for a really entertaining show. Revel in heartbreak and then laugh until you have to pee.
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LOL! That's hilarious. That must have been a huge deja vu moment for you. There is no escape from the Kris/Adam fanwars.
Publishing deal is very cool - is it similar to David's missaddicted? (Not that I really know all that much anyway.. )
That is cool about the publishing deal. I've just been reading a little about it on the thread on MJ's blog, where there are a few informative posts.
The reason I posted the earlier thing about the Glambert plan for world domination was to see if anyone would notice the part about the mods on ALOfficial recommending to the fantards how to purchase music to inflate the chart numbers.
That seems to be crossing a line. I don't even know if that's legal. Reps of a record company advising fans how to make multiple purchases to influence the results on Billboard? Sounds fishy.
The reason I posted the earlier thing about the Glambert plan for world domination was to see if anyone would notice the part about the mods on ALOfficial recommending to the fantards how to purchase music to inflate the chart numbers.
That seems to be crossing a line. I don't even know if that's legal. Reps of a record company advising fans how to make multiple purchases to influence the results on Billboard? Sounds fishy.
Sounds desperate. But, it's not something I haven't heard before from other bands. And it's not illegal if people want to buy x number of records then it's still x number of sales? It's a digital album though right? So they won't even have physical CD's they can pass around to friends and family. Just a full hard drive.
What like a new form of payola? The problem with the music industry today is
that the really good groups coming up are not with the major labels anymore
they are independents. Take the Pat Savage Cd called Dreams of Odin it is
incredible. Pat has been around a long time and done it the hard way not some
idol show. Or the Scenery In Stereo CD a west coast group. There are a number
of songs that are really good quality. On the other hand, I think people watching
Idol might want to go to some of these independent music websites and sample
the offerings. Dream of Odin on the independent play list was somewhere around
number 5 or 6 the last time I went in there. The group Scenery is Stereo is fronted
by Laura Artus, my grand daughter actually. If you search them by group they have
some sample material. Actually I wrote the lyrics for her for one of them. It was
the day she was leaving after living with us here for a year. I wrote her a some
words of encouragement and called it little bird. I know nothing about writing
music but lyrics that's different. Anyway she turned it into a song of her own.
I think the music industry though has become about property rights and ownership
and the talented artists don't get their due, unless they are independents today.
I like Krystal Bowersocks in this competition on American Idol.
that the really good groups coming up are not with the major labels anymore
they are independents. Take the Pat Savage Cd called Dreams of Odin it is
incredible. Pat has been around a long time and done it the hard way not some
idol show. Or the Scenery In Stereo CD a west coast group. There are a number
of songs that are really good quality. On the other hand, I think people watching
Idol might want to go to some of these independent music websites and sample
the offerings. Dream of Odin on the independent play list was somewhere around
number 5 or 6 the last time I went in there. The group Scenery is Stereo is fronted
by Laura Artus, my grand daughter actually. If you search them by group they have
some sample material. Actually I wrote the lyrics for her for one of them. It was
the day she was leaving after living with us here for a year. I wrote her a some
words of encouragement and called it little bird. I know nothing about writing
music but lyrics that's different. Anyway she turned it into a song of her own.
I think the music industry though has become about property rights and ownership
and the talented artists don't get their due, unless they are independents today.
I like Krystal Bowersocks in this competition on American Idol.
Hi damngrumpy! I agree with you that it's really sad now that there is so much good music out there today and most of it has almost no chance of making it into the mainstream. I don't know the bands you mentionned, but I'll check them out! The music industry is really depressing these days, but at the same time, I don't think I've ever bought as much music and seen as many shows (from a lot of independent artists or some that are just not in the maintream, some that are really known as well). So, I guess there is some hope!
SleepinIn, I have actually no clue how Kris's and David's deals are similar. I just know that David is with Cherry Lane. ross, you say there has been some informative posts on MJ's about it? Would you want to summarize, I'm not really familiar with what publishing deals really mean.... except I know that the songwriter can make royalties if his or her songs are played in commercials or elsewhere, etc.
SleepinIn, I have actually no clue how Kris's and David's deals are similar. I just know that David is with Cherry Lane. ross, you say there has been some informative posts on MJ's about it? Would you want to summarize, I'm not really familiar with what publishing deals really mean.... except I know that the songwriter can make royalties if his or her songs are played in commercials or elsewhere, etc.
I'll definitely check out Dream of Odin and Scenery in Stereo too. I just love music. Whether it's being pushed by the big companies or made out of love for no recognition. Do they have websites? I can google them. I'm kinda a master at google come to think of it.
I can think of sooo many groups or musicians that just don't get any radio play at all that are super talented. It's sort of a glass barrier ceiling isn't it? Probably the same thing that's helping them now that they were on Idol is the flip side of the coin for what was keeping them off the radio before.
The whole business is messed up.
For me Crystal is the strongest at the moment too.
I can think of sooo many groups or musicians that just don't get any radio play at all that are super talented. It's sort of a glass barrier ceiling isn't it? Probably the same thing that's helping them now that they were on Idol is the flip side of the coin for what was keeping them off the radio before.
The whole business is messed up.
For me Crystal is the strongest at the moment too.
I was once much closer to the music industry, I spent about 35 years in the
broadcast industry. For a number of years I played almost every format
there was, rock, country. MOR, features. For some years, and from time to
time, I served as a music director so I know a little of how the industry
promotes it music. There was a time when the shortest songs got more
play, and over time once commercial clusters came to be they wanted the
songs to be longer. Radio is and has never been about promoting music,
its about filling in the spaces between commercial clusters and other features.
I personally can write some fairly good lyrics but writing music I don't think
so, I see a song subject I don't hear it if you know what I mean.
In our family my wife can play several instruments and I have no less than 5
grand kids into the music scene either with bands or bands of their own.
All of them working other jobs but some have small CD projects out there
and making a little money. I think reverb is a nation website that promotes
some great talent that is varied and has a lot of great musicians connected
with it. Idol may become the avenue for people to explore the real independent
artists and not just feed on the music pablum the industry peddles now
broadcast industry. For a number of years I played almost every format
there was, rock, country. MOR, features. For some years, and from time to
time, I served as a music director so I know a little of how the industry
promotes it music. There was a time when the shortest songs got more
play, and over time once commercial clusters came to be they wanted the
songs to be longer. Radio is and has never been about promoting music,
its about filling in the spaces between commercial clusters and other features.
I personally can write some fairly good lyrics but writing music I don't think
so, I see a song subject I don't hear it if you know what I mean.
In our family my wife can play several instruments and I have no less than 5
grand kids into the music scene either with bands or bands of their own.
All of them working other jobs but some have small CD projects out there
and making a little money. I think reverb is a nation website that promotes
some great talent that is varied and has a lot of great musicians connected
with it. Idol may become the avenue for people to explore the real independent
artists and not just feed on the music pablum the industry peddles now