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[SleepinIn]

LMAO. I love Jim.

I mean he's doing his job with the Idol promotion thing, but he does genuinely like Kris and his music. From the AiNow interview with Jim he said that he really appreciated that Kris knew who he was and kind of saved his interviewing bacon on the red carpet at the Idol finale. So I think he's partially paying it back in kind. But if Jim and Kris didn't get along or if Jim didn't like Kris's music -- that would come across. So I think that part is pretty genuine and Jim is a great promoter of Kris. So for me it's a big win anytime they are together in an interview. They have the same snarky sense of humour. Which I love.

 

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The one thing I don't really enjoy about Jim is his tendency to think certain things are funny that I think are stupid. He used to make a lot of "blind jokes" about Scott during the season, now he's making "short jokes" about Kris. He doesn't know when to quit, somehow. Or the difference between what's appropriate and what's not quite appropriate. That's probably the main thing about Jim that makes me roll my eyes.

Another negative for me is that he injects himself into interviews a bit too much, in other words, sometimes it's all about him. And I don't really buy his "enthusiastic overgrown schoolboy" act, even though it's obviously meant to be an act. When he turns that off and acts like an adult I actually like him better, I think.

On the other hand, he brings out what I think is the real Kris more than anyone else. Without Jim we wouldn't have most of the sides of Kris we've seen only in these interviews, and, really, nowhere else.

 

[SleepinIn]

I think the guy tweets more than the other 50 people I follow combined!

See you just need another 700 people to follow then it would all blend in. I have to actually search Jim's tweets out. LOL

 

[SleepinIn]

He used to make a lot of "blind jokes" about Scott during the season, now he's making "short jokes" about Kris.

Since I couldn't see it during the season it probably doesn't stick out so much for me. But yeah I can see where you're coming from there. Michael and Kristen were pretty harsh with Danny though too during the season. (that I did see)

Oh, Idol are you really coming back next month? I'm not really ready, lol.

Kris! (or Chris Allan.. lol) and Jason
http://twitpic.com/u3shp

 

[missaddicted]

Chris Allan? Ouch! Yummy shirt though!

Oh, Idol are you really coming back next month? I'm not really ready, lol.

I'm so ready. Maybe we'll stop hearing about Adam all the time.

We're on fire tonight!

 

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Since I couldn't see it during the season it probably doesn't stick out so much for me.

Well, I'm not actually talking about "seeing" it during the season, I'm talking about his written recaps of each performance night, which were my introduction to him. I thought he was a funny writer, but his (constant) blind jokes about Scott were juvenile. I mean, they weren't specific to Scott (as Slezak's dislike of Danny was), they were just jokes about blindness. Like shortness. I just don't think like that. People are all different, get over it. Maybe it's just too easy to make fun of the blind guy, the short guy, the make-up wearing guy. It lacks originality. It's what kids do.

So, SleepinIn, since you brought up the next single, I'm curious if you agree or disagree about the Top 40/HAC thing I mentioned. Not to twist your arm...

 

[SleepinIn]

I guess I just don't get why that's funny. My father was deaf, for example. Why is that hilarious? I don't get it. If someone in the Top 10 had only one arm would that also be hysterical?

No, you're right it's not that funny.

So, SleepinIn, since you brought up the next single, I'm curious if you agree or disagree about the Top 40/HAC thing I mentioned. Not to twist your arm...

lol.. hmmm.. So you think CSA is a better fit for both formats? Was that the question? I think I agree (right now). I could see BWCU or the Truth hitting big in both though too. It's almost like you need the right circumstances though.

Sometimes songs hit big when they connect with an event, a TV show, commercial or a live performance.

But to go into it cold, I'd think CSA or AWM would have a really good chance of hitting on both formats. I could be completely on the wrong track, but AWM is just a favourite of mine from the album and CSA is just so fun live.

I adore WAOMF, and kind of wish they'd played that one more live, but for the next single I'm not in love with it because of it's Script connections which isn't fair to the song - but there ya go. So on that logic it will be the next single. lol.

IIO, I didn't love on the CD, but I'm seriously loving the live versions I've seen especially last night. It makes me wish that they had, had more time to record the album.. say a month.. so the band could have been part of that.

 

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Someone on TWoP just posted this (Orlando set list):

Heartless/Gangsta’s Paradise
Can’t Stay Away (with guitar)
The Truth
MITM
Is It Over
Alright with Me
Have Yourself a Merry Little Xmas
The Christmas Song
LLWD

...CSW with guitar? With guitar???? No. No. No. No. NO!!! Please, no.

 

[SleepinIn]

..CSW with guitar? With guitar???? No. No. No. No. NO!!! Please, no.

I saw a little partial twitvid of it.. and I agree.. I like the bounce without the guitar on CSA.

http://www.twitvid.com/67C17
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Seems you quoted me then I edited. I thought I overstated my case. Disabilities really wasn't totally my point, just that Jim tends to think kind of childishly. (My dad was only partially deaf, anyhow, I don't think I was very clear on that! He wore a hearing aid, that's all. lol)

I suppose you're right about a song having an impact based on other circumstances.
I'm judging on the sort of music Kiss 108 plays. They are a little better than your average Top 40 station, I think. But they play a lot of dance and r&b. I like that they're playing LLWD and that it is winning big in the (all request) Top 7 At 7, because it means the song is catching on despite it really not fitting in with a lot of the music on that station. I think that not only is that because it's catchy, but because it has a subject that appeals to people. When I hear a soft-rock type song on that station I know it's so popular that they basically have to play it despite it not being their usual "mindless dance track" stuff.

But I can't really see them being eager to add a BWCU type of song. That is a very HAC song, to me, or even an AC song. I would like to see Kris catching on with something a little cool or young or edgy or fun or funky, to carry on the buzz from LLWD. I think it would be a mistake to highlight the side of Kris that has an AC appeal at this point in his career. Later, maybe.

 

[SleepinIn]

I think that not only is that because it's catchy, but because it has a subject that appeals to people.

That's true too, it does. Especially in the Christmas season. And we've all lost people that we love too young.

I think music formats are interesting. I mean this has been the year of the auto-tuned tune. The pendulum will swing the other way again, and good music will always be good music, whether it's auto-tuned or not.

 

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I saw a little partial twitvid of it.. and I agree.. I like the bounce without the guitar on CSA.

Well, yeah, so does everybody. I don't think it's just the bounce, though. Did you see the dance Kris did during CSA in Charlotte? That was awesome! Not to mention how he used the stage, and played to the audience. How can he do stuff like that if he's playing guitar? I loved all his moves in that performance, and the girls in the crowd were screaming the whole time. I'm actually kind of upset about this!! I mean, was that not just a great moment, in Charlotte? And now he's going to go the guitar route on that song? Wrong, wrong.

I really, really don't want Kris to use guitar on every song. If you look at Jacob, for example, he uses the guitar a lot, but he also does without it a lot. When he isn't holding it he's engaging the crowd, and he's moving more. It's part of putting on a good show. This is a wrong move. I feel like tweeting him about it.

 

[SleepinIn]

How can he do stuff like that if he's playing guitar? I loved all his moves ikn that perfoemance and the girls in the crowd were screaming the whole time. I'm actually kind of upset about this!!

Ha! I miss the bounce already too.. but you know.. Kris being Kris. This will change again. And it's actually one of the things that I love about him the most. That organic thing. His performances are never the same. I was actually thinking about last night's performance of the Truth. (I think about all this WAY too much.. lol) I think it would have been even stronger without him playing guitar on it. Kris loves playing though.. so if he wants to.. he's got to do what feels right for him.

 

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I don't think I was talking about "the bounce." I'm talking about how a singer can't be as approachable to the audience behind a guitar or a piano. This is why most of them sing directly to the audience from time to time.

Kris loves playing though.. so if he wants to.. he's got to do what feels right for him.

Even Kris doesn't necessarily know what's right for him. It's okay if we, the audience, make judgements about what we see and hear, too. On the Idols tour Kris made a big mistake not singing at least one song without playing an instrument. Many people commented on this, and they were right. When I saw the show, well, it distanced him from us. Not just the the instrument between him and us, but when you're singing and playing, you're actually stealing focus from yourself, a bit. It leaves you without the freedom to do what he was doing in Charlotte -- walking over to the edge of the stage, interacting with people. The great thing about CSA without a guitar is that he could move, get into it, and not think about playing. And we didn't think about it either. As soon as he starts concentrating on playing, he isn't as free onstage, basically.

I don't think Kris is always right about what's good for him any more than I am or anyone is. I actually think he falls back on guitar a bit, and I was happy to see him cut loose without it.

 

[SleepinIn]

The great thing about CSA without a guitar is that he could move, get into it, and not think about playing. And we didn't think about it either. As soon as he starts concentrating on playing, he isn't as free onstage, basically.

I agree with you. (really strongly actually, lol) I call it the bounce, but you're right it's the freedom of movement and the connection to the audience as well. The first time I noticed that in Kris was the GMA concert when he just let himself get into the music without an instrument, and I agree it's a great thing for a performer to do. I love Kris playing guitar and piano and there's no way I'd want him not to do that but you're right when he puts all of his focus on the singing, it's a really awesome thing as well.

 

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So is he playing guitar on every song, now?

Yeah, I know what you meant about the bounce. I was just thinking of it more as the awesome moves of a guy who really can move, and therefore should use that onstage when he can. This is just something that an audience likes looking at -- someone moving well. It's inexplicable. Watching Kris move around the stage he was just super fun. He's never done that in a song before. Never did it on Idol. Never did it on the tour. And amazingly, he's as uninhibited as any rocker. It's entertaining. Watching him play guitar for the umpteenth time in a row? Not so entertaining.

 

[SleepinIn]

It's inexplicable. Watching Kris move around the stage he was just super fun. He's never done that in a song before. Never did it on Idol. Never did it on the tour. And amazingly, he's as uninhibited as any rocker. It's entertaining.

Totally agree. But who knows what the circumstances were, or the reasoning. I mean he's not going to keep two Christmas songs in the set year round either. Although.. that would be interesting. lol

 

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I'm tweeting him. So be forewarned. (Yeah, like he'll listen to me.)

Totally agree. :icon_smile: But who knows what the circumstances were, or the reasoning. I mean he's not going to keep two Christmas songs in the set year round either. Although.. that would be interesting. lol

Well, it's something he's trying out, and hopefully he won't keep it. It's the last Jingle Ball, anyway, right? I tend to think, though, that if he adds guitar, it's there to stay.

Isn't it awful seeing him anchored there to the mic in that song, though? All I can think is that maybe there were no portable mics working at that concert, or something. So he had to alter the way he does it. Grasping at straws because I hate to see something altered that was one of my favorite things he does.

 

[SleepinIn]

The Toronto Star had that Allison Kris conference call interview on their blog.. nice. Finally Canadian press. like holy crap.

Reality Check

 

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The Toronto Star had that Allison Kris conference call interview on their blog.. nice. Finally Canadian press. like holy crap.

"Debra Yeo was an unabashed Cougar for Cook, thinks Adam Lambert over Kris Allen was a no-brainer, and that Simon Cowell is a wise but sometimes mean man. She also wishes she could dance well enough to be on Mary Murphy's Hot Tamale Train and Jean Marc Genereux's VID list."

I agree, she has no brain.