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Interesting thing from TWOP. (by way of Idolforums really)

A list of debut numbers, and weeks they stayed on the Billboard 100 chart for Idol related singles.

Idol singles

And Clear Channel radio stations related to Elvis Duran have been tweeting links to Kris's single.

@1023KissFM Idol's Kris Allen was on with Elvis. See video & pics now at http://102kissfm.com

(Okay this one isn't clear Channel it looks internet based... )
@Q1029 Kris Allen I'm happy for you! Imma let u finish your new song "Live Like we're Dying" ♫ YouTube - Kris Allen - Live Like We're Dying #music

Michael Slezak just hung up on Kris! LOL.. I adore Michael Slezak, and Jim - who is tweeting his jealousy.. it's like a soap opera. lmao.

Kris is in studio with Kevin Rudolph today (tweet from Kevin Rudolph)

and Hedley is having a twitter party.

Interview with Kris (actually a really good interview - clearly she is a fan)
http://blogs.1051thebuzz.com/sheryl/2009/10/06/soooo-kris-allen-called-me-today/

 

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#askhedley was trending on twitter and Jake took off, lol - never drunk twitter I guess.

They have a tease of a new song up on their website too. Still that electronic sound - but not as much as Cha-ching. I like it.

Kris's single is up against the Gaga on http://www.q104.com/

 

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Thanks for the interview, SleepinIn, it's great. The lady had interesting questions. And tour in February! Ooh, and Kris likes MuteMath, I really like their album too!

Somebody posted this on DCO (David Cook Official) and it somewhat reassured me:

There was talk of David Canceling dates this weekend because he is sick a few posts back. All I have to say is "Are you f***ing kidding me?" This is David Cook we are talking about. There will be no cancels unless something worse than tonsillitis happens.

LOL. I'll still be more reassured tomorrow evening/Thursday morning!

 

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I'm listening to the interview right now...

 

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Nice interview. I guess literally everybody has to give The Script a plug when they mention Kris's single -- er, cover -- er, single. That bugs the crap outta me, since it's not like this is a famous recording or anything. All of a sudden everyone...oh, forget it.

I didn't see the Kris vs. Gaga thing, though I brought up the website itself. I'm pretty bad at finding stuff. Can we vote?

That would be a jazz cigarette. :wink: The funny kind that give you the munchies. Explains the blog really, lol.

Yeah, that's what I thought he said. Never heard it referred to that way, but I knew what he meant. I was just hoping he didn't say it. In front of kids? No. Just wrong. And yeah, it explains the blog. lol

On Perez Hilton's blog they referred to Adam's cut off vest as a "Canadian tuxedo." What's that? I never heard that before.

The Billboard numbers were interesting, though I'm kind of brain-fried after work today and can't really study that chart right now. Anything in particular jump out at you, SleepinIn?

The comments in that Kris/Fray article at MJ's were really hostile. I think MJ deleted half that thread since there were almost 100 comments when I read it.

What the hell was it about? Heartless? It seems bizarre to me. What is there about "Kris Allen To Appear With The Fray" that would cause people to freak out? Mind telling me? I can't help being curious.

ETA: Did it strike you guys as freaky that Kris only just now found out about that show in Kentucky he's playing with The Script and Paramore -- even though we've known about it for days?

 

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Nice interview. I guess literally everybody has to give The Script a plug when they mention Kris's single -- er, cover -- er, single. That bugs the crap outta me, since it's not like this is a famous recording or anything. All of a sudden everyone...oh, forget it.

I know, I want to give them credit where it's due - but seriously, was the song that well known?? Clearly, I have been under a rock. I also sincerely like Kris's version better. But I can see how Script fans would rather have the Script.

I didn't see the Kris vs. Gaga thing, though I brought up the website itself. I'm pretty bad at finding stuff. Can we vote?

Kris lost to the Gaga.

I was just hoping he didn't say it. In front of kids? No. Just wrong. And yeah, it explains the blog. lol

Kids everywhere. Yeah, Jacob. Not so cool.

On Perez Hilton's blog they referred to Adam's cut off vest as a "Canadian tuxedo." What's that? I never heard that before.

I think he might be referring to our collective lack of style (except for Quebec.. they have style - the rest of us are heathens, lol)

The Billboard numbers were interesting, though I'm kind of brain-fried after work today and can't really study that chart right now. Anything in particular jump out at you, SleepinIn?

Just how well Heartless did in relation to the rest of the singles from this year.

Quote: The comments in that Kris/Fray article at MJ's were really hostile. I think MJ deleted half that thread since there were almost 100 comments when I read it.
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What the hell was it about? Heartless? It seems bizarre to me. What is there about "Kris Allen To Appear With The Fray" that would cause people to freak out? Mind telling me? I can't help being curious.

It was the age old debate.. Kris copied the Fray, he has no talent refrain. Which is clearly untrue. I had the Fray's version on my ipod for ages -- way before Kris sang his version. I liked all versions but they are all different. The posters were just stirring the pot.

ETA: Did it strike you guys as freaky that Kris only just now found out about that show in Kentucky he's playing with The Script and Paramore -- even though we've known about it for days?

I don't think he's playing with Paramore - is he? But yeah, I thought it was odd that he hadn't heard he was playing with the Script. That is something I think management might have brought up - especially as the cover issue is being brought up so often. But, understandably the guy is busy.

 

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I don't think he's playing with Paramore - is he? But yeah, I thought it was odd that he hadn't heard he was playing with the Script. That is something I think management might have brought up - especially as the cover issue is being brought up so often. But, understandably the guy is busy.

Ha...I misspoke. He mentioned Paramore in his interview, I guess that's what I had on my mind. He's playing with Parachute.

I know, I want to give them credit where it's due - but seriously, was the song that well known?? Clearly, I have been under a rock.

And they're not asking for credit. They sold the song willingly for Kris to perform. Who knows who wrote Jordin's single, or Archie's? Who cares? Nobody. No credit really necessary. It's Kris Allen's single, that's all it should be.

I just read The Script's Wikipedia article. If you look at the bottom, LLWD has been added under "other songs." The page was updated yeaterday. I'm sure LLWD was not mentioned on the page before Kris's recording came out.

From what I gather, other than their opening for Paul McCartney for a few concerts in the US, most of their fame (and it's recent) has been in Ireland and the UK.

The way I look at Kris's single is that it's a song and arrangement bought for him by his record label. No different from what's done all the time. This one happened to have been recorded by the writers, but the release was almost nonexistent. I doubt very much that anyone thought it would be referred to as a "cover" to the extent it has been.

But, hey, just in case any reviewer forgets to do that, there are all those trolls in the comments to remind everybody. There was one who posted after a review of Allison's single today. "At least it's not a cover like Kris Allen's single -- yuck!"

You know, it's a funny thing. Most people have never heard of The Script, let alone the their version of LLWD, but enough trolls working overtime can create a trend. "That song? Oh, it's a cover." "Have you heard the original?" "No." "So what's the difference?" "I don't know. It's just that it's a cover." I'm not sure yet how much impact that kind of crap-spreading has had. Time will tell.

 

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The Sound isn't great - which considering it's coming from the founder of We day is sort of funny. But here's Hedley at We Day.
YouTube - Hedley - Cha Ching (Live @ We Day Toronto '09)

and Adam's Mad World was used on SYTYCDC tonight.

 

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The Sound isn't great - which considering it's coming from the founder of We day is sort of funny. But here's Hedley at We Day.

Who's the founder?

Annoying, but my YouTube videos keep stopping and starting, lately. With the little circle of dots in the middle. Love that.

Hey, I just noticed all the different angles in that Cha Ching video. Where did that video come from?

 

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The way I look at Kris's single is that it's a song and arrangement bought for him by his record label. No different from what's done all the time. This one happened to have been recorded by the writers, but the release was almost nonexistent. I doubt very much that anyone thought it would be referred to as a "cover" to the extent it has been.

This is my take on the history of the song.
I think the song was probably written mainly by the producers, with changes from the guys from the Script. Who were going to record it. For whatever reason the song didn't work for them and they left it off the album.

The prodcuers/writers then have this song sitting around that needs a home.

Not unlike many, many songs out there. Avril Lavigne has a writing credit on one of Kelly Clarkson's songs for example. I don't really think Avril sat and wrote the song in her bedroom If you know what I mean. And I could be completely off base here, but that's my take on it. So yeah I agree with you. I don't think they anticipated the cover drama. But, I don't think they were ready with any of the other songs. There is just no time to record anything when they go straight to tour after the show.

 

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Craig Keilburger posted it on Youtube. So I'm sure they had the cameras going (actually it's going to be on tv, and it was streamed on the website live I think) He's a pretty remarkable guy. Still young - mid 20's but he's done a lot for children worldwide. He's met Mother Theresa, The Pope, World Leaders, Oprah he pretty much started the foundation as a child. They've built something like 500 schools, clean water wells, he's incredible actually.

Craig Kielburger (craigkielburger) on Twitter

 

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So yeah I agree with you. I don't think they anticipated the cover drama.

In my opinion the cover 'drama' is completely manufactured. Obviously the cover angle is not a big deal to the pros at Billboard and RS and EW. It's more an online thing. Like those hostile people on the blog yesterday. Some of them just keep on pushing.

I don't think they were ready with any of the other songs. There is just no time to record anything when they go straight to tour after the show.

I'm sure that's true. I also think they loved the song and thought it would make a great single. It does make a great single. I actually think this song is going to do really well. But the wait for those adds is killing me. And then it's going to be an even longer wait before the song starts climbing. I don't think I can take it.

Heartless, on that Billboard chart...I forgot it went that high. I know it isn't done, but I would have liked to see that get a real radio release. I wonder how it would have done.

 

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Auditorium Theatre :: historic theatre tours

Theatre where Kris/Fray will be playing in Chicago.

Auditorium Theatre :: About Us

 

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I'm still reading guys. I'm working. But I had to take a break to LMAO at this: TwitVid - @acookofficial Written and Directed by Andrew Cook. Starring Andrew Cook as Himself Dublin Cook as Himself

Poor Dublin (David's dog... probably more Andrew's dog right now though).

 

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I need to go to Chicago... lol.

I'm just re-listening to the interview from today. I have to laugh.. she asked him about the biggest star who came out to the tour. Kris's biggest star was a reporter from ESPN. Clearly a sports guy.

I agree with you about Heartless, but then the Fray sort of pushed their version out there with a video. So I think that may be why they stopped that plan if it was a plan of theirs at all.

I think it's a great single too. It's good and I think Kris will kill it live.

ETA: Andrew Cook is hilarious - lol

 

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Just reading MJ's - quote from Chikeze about Idol

Digest: What’s the most important thing you learned from your IDOL experience?
Eze: Until I was on IDOL, I never knew how much people could hate you [laughs]. It was like a crash course on people hating you. I’m pretty sure I was the most hated. People wanted me dead. I’m like, “Wow, I didn’t do anything. I’m just on a TV show, right?”

 

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Wow, poor guy. That is scary indeed. And is probably the reason why I would never want to be on TV. People can love you like maniacs, but they can also hate you with no apparent reason. Chikeze seemed so nice, I wonder why people hated him?

 

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So Kris was winning all these challenges against other artists at first, now he seems to be losing them. I guess we have to assume he's being voted against, in some instances, as well as being voted for. The challenge vs. Michael Buble, mentioned on TWoP, where Kris lost @ 75% to 25% seems crazy. Buble, by that wide a margin?

I'm just re-listening to the interview from today. I have to laugh.. she asked him about the biggest star who came out to the tour. Kris's biggest star was a reporter from ESPN. Clearly a sports guy.

Yeah. That's Kris!

This reminds me of something. Adam's fans are always saying that Hollywood is all about Adam. But as usual this is kind of suspect. I remember reading a story from LA at finale time about how Hollywood was divided between Kris and Adam fans, and that arguments between them were erupting at Hollywood parties, etc. I think Kris has his celeb fans for sure.

Oh, and I agree with your take on the history of LLWD, SleepinIn. I forgot to mention it.

Urban Dictionary: canadian tuxedo

 

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So Kris was winning all these challenges against other artists at first, now he seems to be losing them. I guess we have to assume he's being voted against, in some instances, as well as being voted for. The challenge vs. Michael Buble, mentioned on TWoP, where Kris lost @ 75% to 25% seems crazy. Buble, by that wide a margin?

Well, this was the same radio station apparently. Plus. I LOVE the Michael Buble song. Like LOVE. lmao. Not that I voted against Kris - but don't underestimate the power of the Buble fanbase. He just taped a tv special here yesterday - and the JONAS brothers of all people came. Michael is also hilarious, Matt actually reminds me of Michael Buble. If Kris ever wanted to open for Michael (not that their music is similar or anything) I'd totally go to the concert. Just sayin' Michael is an established artist - they threw Kris out there against Michael and the Gaga. I'm not surprised he didn't win actually. But that's what Kris has to do, his music has to connect. And it will, and those couple of spins tonight are going to help it do that.

and I totally did not know about that definition re Canadian Tuxedo.
Living. Under. A. Rock.

 

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I have nothing against Michael Buble. I like his style of music, though I actually don't care for his voice much (sorry). I think I meant (hey, it was yesterday) that at least around here M. Buble and LLWD would not be in direct competition because they wouldn't be on the same station. But maybe that's not even right.

Airplay (of sorts) doesn't seem to be helping LLWD yet. It's down to #72. I'm really not gifted with the kind of patience needed for this stuff. Need instant gratification. Yup, that's me.

This is a fun video of the BEP's I Got A Feeling, done in one continuous shot. The location might be familiar to missaddicted.

YouTube - I Gotta University Feeling - Montreal Students Party Hard!