Canadian Idol Fans Watching American Idol

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Oh, yeah, another thing that was happening: some of Adam's fans got mad when people said that Bieber, Ke$ha, and I think Jason Derulo got more screams than Adam at Wango Tango. I mean, it was more complicated...someone said that this happened because the audience was younger. Then people took offense at that because of the implication Adam has old fans. Or something. Anyhow, you know, the usual.

And I think someone said that Justin's performance "horrendous." And all those kids screaming for it just proves loud screams are meaningless. (Unless they are the screams Adam got on the AI tour, then they mean he is the greatest performer evahhh.)

(But they were nothing compared to the Bieber screams.)

Justin isn't exactly horrendous. He just seems really amateurish.

 

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Adam's screams were perfectly acceptable. Unlike his pants. :-?

 

[SleepinIn]

The comments on the headlines thread on MJ's is way too tough to follow...are you looking at it SleepinIn?

I was actually, lol. The Nickelback thing I don't get with David Cook. I think that comaparing David to Nickelback is a passive agressive way to put down David on Mj's. I don't think David is at all like Nickelback. And I actually kind of like Nickelback so I don't really see it as the put down I think they intend it to be. LOL Now Chris Daughtry has some similarity to Nickelback (which again -isn't a put down for me) they just have the same type of sound. Plus I think Chris wrote with Chad so it goes to figure.

Did you read the comments on the Wango Tango review? Seriously, one of the funniest things I have ever read. They didn't like Adam, Kesha or Beiber oh, and who takes offense? Take one guess. LOL. Radio shows are weird since the audience is so mixed anyway, but Adam really hasn't done a lot of shows outside of his core fanbase. You're just going to have that disconnection from the audience when they don't know your material.

 

[SleepinIn]

Pants are a fashion don't. WWFM sounded good. IIHU is still annoying.

 

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I suppose this will have no validity coming from me, and it's apples and oranges, anyhow, but I've noticed that Adam is now seemingly less smooth onstage than Kris, when six or eight months ago it may have been the opposite. Kris has done like 80 or 90 shows by now? It has its benefits.

 

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The thing is, Kris never has really toured, but he keeps working constantly, so it's kind of the same thing, I guess. I don't know, maybe better, in his case. Every artist is different. I think he's getting the best exposure this way, plus, he's probably making more money.

No, you're right. Except maybe about the money part, being a headliner on your own tour is probably the way to make the most money when you're on tour. But, since SleepinIn asked about David's tour and when it started, that's the info I provided. I don't think either of us were saying how that it was bad that Kris's "official" tour hadn't started yet. And in any case, Kris will be playing with so many people at so many venues that it's hard to say when it starts! But I'm pretty sure that David was making more money with his tour at this point.

Someone called David Cook's album "third rate Nickleback." That much, I picked up from the conversation. How can people compare DC to Nickleback?

I guess I've stopped being offended by that. I understand where these people come from, but it's just a lazy comparision. Why are people even talking about that? For me, Daughtry is much closer to Nickelback than Cook, but that's probably a lazy comparision as well! But while I seriously despise Nickleback, I like some of Daughtry's songs (except that song they did on Idol, boy, that was a snoozer) and I adore David. But my love for David Cook is probably an anomaly really, since I don't enjoy that type of music usually and mine and Cook's musical tastes differ quite a lot. But it's the voice, it makes me like (almost) everything he puts out!

 

[missaddicted]

I was actually, lol. The Nickelback thing I don't get with David Cook. I think that comaparing David to Nickelback is a passive agressive way to put down David on Mj's. I don't think David is at all like Nickelback. And I actually kind of like Nickelback so I don't really see it as the put down I think they intend it to be. LOL Now Chris Daughtry has some similarity to Nickelback (which again -isn't a put down for me) they just have the same type of sound. Plus I think Chris wrote with Chad so it goes to figure.

LOL. I posted once again without looking at the next page. So yeah, pretty much said the same thing you did. Except Nickelback isn't much better than Kesha in my eyes!

 

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Did you read the comments on the Wango Tango review?

No. I'd like to read the review. If you can would you give me a link? I can't read through that thread again! Actually I'm probably going to bed soon. Or, I have to clean up around here then go to bed.

I don't even see the Daughtry-Nickleback comparisions so much, because CD has such a smooth voice. I like him so much better live on Idol. He has a tendency to sound sort of constipated, for lack of a better word, or like he's not just freely singing. He's so mannered (on recordings). Also, he's very sensitive-sounding, while Chad Kroeger is almost too macho-sounding. I always think when I hear Nicleback on the radio that Chad Kroeger heard Faber Drive on that battle of the bands and helped them get a contract. Since they sound nothing alike, it says alot about him to me that he recognized talent in such a different type of band.

 

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I don't think either of us were saying how that it was bad that Kris's "official" tour hadn't started yet.

I didn't think you guys were saying that.

I can see that opening for people is not going to make you as much money, but I was thinking about things like the Asia concerts and some other special appearances Kris has made that I thought might make him more money than appearing in clubs and small theatres (which is what he's doing on the headlining parts of his "tour" this summer). Appearances like Six Flags might get him more money for one appearance than the take for a concert, since he'd just be paid a flat fee, whether people come or not. I don't know what the radio concerts pay. I could be wrong, it just seems highly visible and commercial, anyhow. I'm sure your'e right, though, you know more than I do about all of this.

 

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I'm not sure about the radio concerts. Since there are usually many acts there, and it's as much a promotional thing than a concert, I never saw it as something that would be profitable that much. In terms of money anyway, because in terms of exposure, it's great.

Of course, since David started in colleges (mostly), maybe that part of the tour was not that profitable, but they quickly upgraded to casinos, fair and bigger theaters, like some House of Blues, etc. And David also went to Asia last year for a show, which is undoubtebly a great source of money for them. I heard numbers back when David went there and while I don't remember exactly what they were, they were higher than what I make in a whole year.

 

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Anyway, I don't really care. As long as they're doing shows I guess. And Kris will do many many shows, but I don't even think I'll be able to see one unless they add more dates. The schedule is kind of all over the place. There's still that fair in Vermont, but I don't think it's worth it since it's a Keith Urban show and it's in a huge outdoor theater. I would personally prefer a headlining tour, since I could see myself travelling for that, but to see Kris doing 7 songs before the Barenaked Ladies or Keith Urban, well I wouldn't.

 

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Re the Asia thing, I meant that Kris went there roughly at the time he was supposed to have been starting his tour, so I figured that his management lined up these gigs because they were better money. Whatever Kris is doing, I'm assuming it's the most lucrative thing he could be doing. So I just figured a tour might be less profitable for him (because maybe he's not as well known as Cook). Plus, maybe his management thought he could use more exposure and experience before going on the standard tour. Which I think, if true, was very smart, because he did probably need that (though the moment the Idol tour was over he seems to have blossomed onstage).

I read that review. I was going to write the same thing (earlier): Adam didn't seem to be having much fun. I can't compare it to Idol (like the reviewer did) because on Idol he performed for 90 seconds. I have thought this a lot, actually. Adam doesn't appear to be having fun in most of his videos, or relating a lot to the audience. I think (hope) when he tours he'll figure out how to loosen up more. Anyhow I like a concert where there are a lot of laughs and banter, and there's spontaneity.

 

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Re the Asia thing, I meant that Kris went there roughly at the time he was supposed to have been starting his tour, so I figured that his management lined up these gigs because they were better money than starting a tour would have been. Or else he would have been going on tour. Whatever Kris is doing, I'm assuming it's the most lucrative thing he could be doing. So I just figured a tour might be less profitable for him. Or maybe his management wisely thought he could use more exposure and experience before going on the standard tour. Which I think, if true, was very smart.

As usual, you have more faith in them than I do, LOL. Not that is wasn't great they sent him to Asia. But they were probably thinking more about the money they were making for themselves, before the money Kris was making!

In any case, again, I don't really care, it's not a competition to find who was making more money, and it's starting to feel like we beating a dead horse, so I'm going to bed! Good night!

 

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Aww, some reasons to love Michael Orland, a musical director on the show:

Idol' Season 9 a year to remember - KansasCity.com

About David:

Orland's thoughts: "David is one of the greatest, truest rock 'n' roll guys today. The rockers (on the show) know exactly who they are. They don't change. Throughout the show he always knew what he wanted to do."

About Kris:

Orland's thoughts: "I love that boy! He's such a great performer. I didn't buy the whole Kris vs. Adam (Lambert) thing. He's a dynamo performer with a great vibe. No one like him has won before, and he's a great role model for people."

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I'm glad Kris was described by Orland as a dynamo. I mean, he needs descriptions like that (which are accurate), because you still read the whole "Kris is not a dynamic performer" thing (mostly in blog comments), and that needs to be put to rest.

As usual, you have more faith in them than I do, LOL. Not that is wasn't great they sent him to Asia. But they were probably thinking more about the money they were making for themselves, before the money Kris was making!

Oh sure, I agree, they were probably thinking of the money they were making. That's business. I never doubted that.

In any case, again, I don't really care, it's not a competition to find who was making more money, and it's starting to feel like we beating a dead horse.

Sorry, I was adding on to or re-writing my post, so I missed it when when you said you didn't care, the first time. I wouldn't have written any more if I thought you wanted to drop the subject.

 

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I mean, he needs descriptions like that (which are accurate), because you still read the whole "Kris is not a dynamic performer" thing (mostly in blog comments), and that needs to be put to rest.

Oh yeah, definitely!

Sorry, I was adding on to or re-writing my post, so I missed it when when you said you didn't care, the first time. I wouldn't have written any more if I thought you wanted to drop the subject.

No, it's okay. I guess it's just a subject we don't really know about that much, so I didn't want us to get too much into the speculation. And all I personally care about it's that they're doing shows, whichever kind of shows it is. Preferably shows I can attend (well at least one), but we'll see for that. Right now, I don't think I will be able to, so it's kind of sad.

 

[SleepinIn]

I want Kris and band to tour with a super chatty band with iphones and really good service plans. No reason.

 

[missaddicted]

What are you refering to SleepinIn?

 

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I think she means, so the band will tweet a lot about what they're up to with Kris and his band? I don't know. Is that it, SleepinIn?

I'm at work so I'm going to try posting a vieo. Maybe the problem is my computer at home.

YouTube - Kris Allen- The Truth

 

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Yup, it must be my computer. Wonder what I did to it??