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SleepinIn

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LOL!! The Truth is a good song. :) It's just not the song I'd put out there for single #2.

Today I've decided it would be *AWM. (*subject to change)
 

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missaddicted, do you have any idea where that info about The Truth came from, on the Pulse boards?

Thankfully, SleepinIn posted the info, since I've never been on these boards myself! She was the one who posted the info here earlier today!

AWM or BWCU would make me very very happy. I don't see a conspiracy in them choosing The Truth (if that's indeed what they did), but it wouldn't surprise me since 19 doesn't seem to trust their artists enough to put out singles that they co-wrote. Archie put out a second single that made his fans go WTF? and it tanked. Cook put out a second single that made his fans go WTF? (I've honestly yet to come across a Cook fan who thinks that CBTM should have been released as a single) and while it didn't tank completely, it never got to gold and didn't drive the album sales. Fans had hopes for a third single, but that never happened either. I honestly don't really trust these people to make the right decisions at this point. I think they should try to have another top 40 hit (and I see AWM or BWCU working well on top 40), but The Truth is not that. It would play on HAC, but it's not the type of song that is successful on top 40 right now, in my opinion.

(My neighbor is vacuum cleaning right now. Lady, it's almost midnight. It couldn't wait for tomorrow??)
 

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(My neighbor is vacuum cleaning right now. Lady, it's almost midnight. It couldn't wait for tomorrow??)

Argh! Annoying. Maybe she dropped a glass and had to vacuum the glass up? Of course she could have swept it up.

Sorry if I got your posts confused. Must be old age creeping up on me.
 

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Wow, "my" radio station is giving tickets (a pair I think) for Adam's show... in Vancouver, on April 9th. Just heard the promo. If I ever doubted his popularity here, well, I don't doubt it anymore.
 

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Idoltracker did a blog about David at the If I Can Dream house (the reporter Shirley Halperin was there). Among all the awkwardness, people still asked some pretty good questions via twitter. Here are some of the Q & A's:

David, how do you like the “If I Can Dream" house?
I like it. I mean, the house is incredible. As far as the whole project, it's really interesting. It’s intriguing. I see a little bit of other projects that Fuller’s done before, and it's all kind of put together. It's something worth checking out for sure.

How often do you run in a week, and what music do you listen to while running?
I run three times a week, and I listen to a lot of Jimmy Eat World and a lot of Mae when I’m running.

Can you tell me the name of the song from the NYC Vlog so that I can watch for it in the future?
The song from the NYC Vlog is called “Right Here With You,” so keep an eye on it.

Do you have your own music on your iPod?
I do, so it’s always weird when I’m running and it turns up. I don’t normally listen to it, I keep it there for cataloging purposes.

Who’s your favorite contestant on "Idol" this year?
Man, that’s tough. I don’t know that I have one yet, and that’s for two reasons. One, it’s still really early. Two: I have a problem with picking a favorite and verbalizing it, only because I remember being on the show, and people would announce who their favorite was, so I’m not gonna do that. Sorry.

David, have you done much writing on the upcoming album on your own? And with the Anthemic?
I’ve written a little bit with Neal and Andy, and I'm gonna write some more with them and the other guys as well. It’s tough; I have sessions almost every day, so the last thing I wanna do when I come home from writing is [to] start writing, so I haven’t written much on my own.

What’s your favorite part of the artistic process -- writing, recording or performing?
My favorite part of the artistic process is performing, and I didn’t realize that until recently. I love writing and I love recording, but it’s tedious and I haven’t shot any movies, but I equate it to that.

What do you think about all the overwhelming praise for y’all's ["American Idol"] performance last night?
We don’t listen to it at all. [laughs] No, it’s really cool. You know what? I get to watch how much work everybody puts into that three to four minute performance, so to have it go over well is really cool. I know Neal, especially, put a lot of work into that song, so. Good job, Neal.

David, what music/artist inspired you the most in your music?
I’d say overall probably my dad, I don’t think he’s a band or an artist. Well, maybe he’s an artist, but I grew up watching my dad play guitar.

Will the band name be on the new album?
I don’t know. I hope so. But if not, that is in no way a discredit to how much work they’ve put in on this record.... That was very diplomatic of me, wasn’t it?

David, what kind of advice would you like to offer Justin about the music business?
I don’t know that I can offer Justin any advice. I’m pretty new at it myself. So keep on keeping on. That’s the worst advice I could have possibly given you… [laughs]

So glad the songbook came out, but will your publisher have pity on keyboardists and put out a piano version any time soon?

I don’t know that that’s going to happen but I’m loving you brought that up, because there is a lyrical discrepancy in the book. It’s not “half-baked” it’s “half-faith” [in the song "A Daily Anthem"].

Most memorable city on the last tour?
Mine was Kansas City. We got to play at this venue called the Sandstone Amphitheater that, when I grew up, I would go see shows there, and I always wanted to be on that stage, so we got to headline this big festival this year.

What was with the Manatee towel thingie you guys had on stage during your “Jumping Jack Flash” performance?
There’s a member of the crew at "Idol" named Spencer, and when the montage videos would play every week introducing the contestant, we would have about a minute to get set up, stand there and get ready to perform, and Spencer would always come on stage and talk to me about manatees to take my mind off the fact that I was getting ready to perform in front of 30 million people. He gave me that towel as a welcome back to "Idol" gift and I decided to put it on my amp.

How old were you when you had your first kiss?
I don’t remember. I was young. Younger, I guess. I remember it was outside of a Pizza Hut.

David, will you be trying Chat Roulette again any time soon?
Absolutely not! Under no certain circumstances... Chat Roulette is this website that's like rapid fire video chat and every so often it changes or you can change it or something. Well, none of us had ever done it before and we were rehearsing for "American Idol" and were like, "Let’s do it!" So we turn it on, and we set the computer up so they can see us rehearsing and... it’s literally, it’s like 75 to 80% guys, showing their junk. And this one guy goes, “My ... could play better than you guys.”

Do you keep a journal, David?
I do not. I live my Journal. I twitter my journal.
 

ross 1

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How insulting for the contestants to have freaking Miley as a mentor. Seriously, what were they thinking? Even if the theme had been Teen Idols, it would have been insulting to have Miley "mentor" the contestants. The girl can barely sing.

It does look as if Teen Idols was originally the theme, and three of them were booked. Wonder why the theme was changed? I don't think it's possible that there weren't enough good songs. There have been teen idols for decades, including a lot of good ones. Like Elvis and Sinatra. The theme can be stretched a lot of ways, too.

Anyhow, I share your distaste with Miley as a mentor. But insulting? I'm not sure, missaddicted. The contestants are mostly unknown amateurs. Miley is a very successful recording artist and performer. I guess I don't look at the mentors as vocal coaches or singing experts. Sometimes they're just big music stars who are there for ratings. (Sometimes they're not even music stars.) But I think someone with experience can always be a mentor to someone with no experience.

I agree it seems like a joke to have Miley mentoring Crystal Bowersox. But Tim or Katie, maybe not so far-fetched. Anyhow, I'll take a wait and see attitude.
 
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Kiss108 has been advertsing the Kiss Concert a lot. The order they're announcing the artists is Ke$ha, Kris Allen "of American Idol fame", Orianthi "Michael Jackson's guitar player", Jason Derulo, and Iyaz. "And more to be announced."
 

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American Idol magazine took three years off. Check The first of four Season 9 issues features “rare backstage photos of “Idol” past and present, interviews with former finalists, makeup and hair tips from the show’s glam squad (Mezhgan Hussainy gives a step-by-step breakdown of Adam Lambert’s “Idol” makeup routine), and more.”
Shirley Halperin of the LA Times got the scoop, because she’s written several articles. The new mag will be available on newsstands and in supermarkets starting on Friday (March 26).

Oh, goody, Adam Lambert's make up routine.
 

missaddicted

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Yeah, maybe insulting is a bit severe. Still, I do find it a bit insulting. For me, a mentor is not someone young like Miley and still pretty new to the business considering everything. Also, the girl is not a "respected" artist. She's a Teen Idol. Maybe she'll be in ten, twenty years, I'm not saying she won't be, but right now, she's not. I don't see how she can really help the contestants, even Tim and Katie. Even Katie the pageant queen is a better singer that Miley. I mean, the mentors are supposed to help them directly with the performance, no? Give them vocal tips, arrangement advice, etc? That's how I see the role of that type of mentor anyway. I don't see how Miley fits that bill, really. We probably don't see the role of a mentor the same way though.

Mainly, I just think it's a ridiculous choice and it won't help Idol and/or the contestants gain credibility. I know TPTB do that for the ratings and to bring a music star into the mix. They could invite her to perform as they did last year. Bring her as a mentor? I hate that idea, honestly. It's as if they had asked Kesha to mentor the Idols.

Anyway, it should be LOL worthy, so there's that.
 

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Yeah, maybe insulting is a bit severe. Still, I do find it a bit insulting. For me, a mentor is not someone young like Miley and still pretty new to the business considering everything. Also, the girl is not a "respected" artist. She's a Teen Idol. Maybe she'll be in ten, twenty years, I'm not saying she won't be, but right now, she's not. I don't see how she can really help the contestants, even Tim and Katie. Even Katie the pageant queen is a better singer that Miley. I mean, the mentors are supposed to help them directly with the performance, no? Give them vocal tips, arrangement advice, etc? That's how I see the role of that type of mentor anyway. I don't see how Miley fits that bill, really. We probably don't see the role of a mentor the same way though.

I guess I have to agree with all of your post. Maybe I was just playing devil's advocate. But really, isn't Miley the perfect example of what an AI contestant is supposed to be aspiring to? Top 40 hits, sold out concerts, and she's between the magic ages of 16 and 28. (I just wrote mostly the same thing on MJ's blog.) Forgetting whether she's an artist or not. Sadly, I don't think it matters.

The thing is, if AI discovers any real artists, as I define artists, it's usually almost by accident. If AI discovered Miley, they'd be thrilled beyond thrilled.

It's cynical, but in the music business, a great number of people measure success only by money. (Even on the boards, this is how most people define success. Numbers of albums sold, singles sold, tickets sold. This is practically all anyone talks about. Ignoring the fact that a lot of great artists don't necessarily sell big. And many don't care.) I'm sure Miley is respected within the business for her monetary success alone.

This is why so many artists working in the movies, and music say they hate Hollywood so much. You're only as good as your last hit.

Anyhow, yeah, it's a joke that she's mentoring. But typical.
 
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I guess I have to agree with all of your post. Maybe I was just playing devil's advocate. But really, isn't Miley the perfect example of what an AI contestant is supposed to be aspiring to? Top 40 hits, sold out concerts, and she's between the magic ages of 16 and 28. (I just wrote mostly the same thing on MJ's blog.) Forgetting whether she's an artist or not. Sadly, I don't think it matters.

You're right. And it is really sad.

I feel that these contestants, mediocre as some of them are, still deserve better than Miley Cyrus.
 

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Sure Miley is young (and often very annoying) but she's also had a hit tv show, a hit movie and a hit songs and she grew up in the business, her dad was in the business. So I don't have a problem with Miley as a mentor. She's also pretty direct and I think she won't be hesitant to give her opinion. Although who knows?? I think that's part of the charm of the mentor - they can't all be the same. The experienced mentors help with different things than Miley. (she might be a crappy mentor.. but I can't write her off until I see her)

I get the impression he was the hit of the show, though.

Oh he was. FOR SURE. Believe me the radio people are aware that most of the people watching the stream were there for Kris. (also BLG didn't sound great..even some of their fans mentioned they've sounded better -- they got a great reception live though).
 

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LOL - They don't even show BLG in that video, they only show Kris and the radio people.

BLG did have a good reception -- crowd was nuts. But It's funny they don't show them.

I think you're looking for CSA. Or maybe not.. I can't remember

these videos have great sound

 
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Sure Miley is young (and often very annoying) but she's also had a hit tv show, a hit movie and a hit songs and she grew up in the business, her dad was in the business. So I don't have a problem with Miley as a mentor.

Well, this is it. Somebody obviously likes her. I think if someone is huge in the music biz that qualifies them to be on AI as a mentor. The Climb was huge. Her latest song was huge. (Party In The USA? Ugh.) I was stunned her concert in Boston last summer sold out so fast. (Her brother's band opened for her. Trace. He's the tall one in this video. Demi Lovato used to be his girlfriend.)

Anyhow, basically, I can't really disagree with either of you because it's a doubled-edged sword. She's not an artist, she's Disney product, she's not a worthy mentor to some of the Idols. But she's a popular singer, she has a lot of live performing experience, and she's a star of TV, records, and concerts, so she's earned the right to be a mentor on a cheesy TV show.

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I think I wil post that Alright With Me video at MJ's, if it's Alright With You, SleepinIn.