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Wow, that was a great-quality video.

Ha. You guys, I never get anything done around here, I'm talking to you all night.

Did you check out LLWD on iTunes today? I don't enjoy doing it! I guess it's not necessary to state the obvious but I hope the radio adds make a difference. I don't guess we'll know what kind of a difference for a while. Wonder when we'll know? (That's dumb. We'll know when we know.) It's at #92 today.

I can't believe there have still not been adds, and no video yet, either. Is tomorrow the day for adds, or is it Tuesday?
 
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I wonder if the filming happened. Didn't Kris say it would happen last weekend?
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I think so.

So, with radio -- is it spelled "adds" or "ads"? I guess it's "ads", that's what I seem to see -- but that's not a word, so is it an abbrediation for something? Just curious. I want to spell it right.

ETA: I should probably learn to spell "abbreviation" first.

I was just reading the TWoP Kris thread from March. It was fun. What happened to the fans there who used to write about what a hot/sexy/cute guy and great singer he is? Because they sure ain't there, now. Not much squeeing there currently.

Back in March the LA Times interviewed the AI stage manager, who said Anoop had the most fans in the live audience, followed by Kris. Make of that what you will.

Back to now: People keep bringing up that, while LLWD has apparently sold around 40 or 50 thousand iTunes copies, Kris has 110,000 twitter followers. So he really should be selling 110,000 singles. I'd have to guess some of those followers are outside North America, and I think it's only just become available in these places. Other than that I can't explain it.

But Kris really should remind followers the song is available, because some of them are new. Last time he announced this was @ three weeks ago. If he just mentioned it, like, right now, I bet he'd sell a couple thousand copies, probably.
 
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But I'm not wringing my hands over it, or anything. Not that I ever do that. Heh.
Anybody who gained a thousand followers in a couple of days isn't doing a lot wrong, as I see it. Why are they seeking him out and following him, after all?

His tweet about showing enthusuaim in print made me laugh. Wonder if he reads the comments under those Slezak articles. "He doesn't sound enthusuaistic enough." Ha. In print.

I like his being laid back, but still always positive. That's all I need. Any more would be obnoxious. I really have no use for the artists who rave on and on over their own stuff, how great it is. I think where I come from that's called boasting. Just saying, "I think we've really put together something people are going to like" or whatever. That's plenty, for me. Don't ever change, Kris.
 
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It's adds.. (and this way lies madness, click at your own risk)
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Back to now: People keep bringing up that, while LLWD has apparently sold around 40 or 50 thousand iTunes copies, Kris has 110,000 twitter followers. So he really should be selling 110,000 singles. I'd have to guess some of those followers are outside North America, and I think it's only just become available in these places. Other than that I can't explain it.
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I think the itunes pass sales affected it for sure, as well as No Boundaries being the "first" single. We like to forget about it, but sold a lot, and was in the itunes charts, but then received limited radio play. I'd rather he get the radio play, then worry about the itunes charts.

His tweet about showing enthusuaim in print made me laugh. Wonder if he reads the comments under those Slezak articles. "He doesn't sound enthusuaistic enough." Ha. In print.
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That cracked me up. How do you show excitement in press? Why throw some !! in there and TALK LIKE THIS!! all of a sudden you're excited. Seriously though, Kris's tweets always crack me up, I don't need a lot of !!!
 
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I think the itunes pass sales affected it for sure, as well as No Boundaries being the "first" single. We like to forget about it, but sold a lot, and was in the itunes charts, but then received limited radio play. I'd rather he get the radio play, then worry about the itunes charts.
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How does No Boundaries affect the sales of Live Like We're Dying? I don't get that.

Your last sentence, above -- I have to agree with you, on that. If Kris gets a good amount of radio play, he gets well known. And eventually that will have a lot of benefits. And it will help sell the CD.

I may have to stop reading TWoP now. My comments earlier were sort of about my frustration with going over there. I can only take so much negative talk about Kris. If people want to talk about why they like him, etc., great. But one poster over there really made me feel down.

If the song doesn't end up being popular, I think we have to wonder how much these people spreading negativity online has to do with that. Not too long ago, just after the song debuted, a poster on another forum (also in Canada) told me she didn't think LLWD would be a hit. The reasons she gave were all things she had read online. Stuff like "after Z100 debuted it, they hadn't even played it." "People say it reminds them of 911." This was stuff I read on mj's blog, myself. "It sounds exactly like the original." Had she ever heard the original? No.

Strangely, the very first things I read online about the song were that it was catchy and there was no doubt it would be a hit. But enough people spreading doom and gloom can probably affect perceptions, and perceptions affect sales.
 
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Kris says he hasn't heard the song on the radio.. what was Z100? A dream? lol I guess he means outside of the premiere? Too funny.
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Maybe he doesn't consider listening to it in the studio the same as hearing it on the radio -- like, on an actual radio? That's all I can think.

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I'm not totally getting this, either (sorry!)...do you think the number of adds or spins isn't good so far?

ETA: Mix104.1 is still playing Heartless. I heard it tonight. There would have to be a good reason they haven't added LLWD yet. They tend to be a very Idol-winner-oriented station (I heard David Cook's Come Back To Me twice today). Aren't adds supposed to happen tomorrow, anyway?
 
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How does No Boundaries affect the sales of Live Like We're Dying? I don't get that.
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The way I mean is that people talk about the "Idol sales bump". I think NB benefited from that. Which maybe why LLWD didn't get that huge initial response - although it did get a good response.

I may have to stop reading TWoP now. My comments earlier were sort of about my frustration with going over there. I can only take so much negative talk about Kris. If people want to talk about why they like him, etc., great. But one poster over there really made me feel down.
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Can I guess which one? lol. I think I know of whom you speak.

I'm not totally getting this, either (sorry!)...do you think the number of adds or spins isn't good so far?
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I just means that it leads to over analysis. Which can drive people crazy. The spins are increasing, the stations adding the single are increasing, so the news is good IMHO. Anyway the stations that added the song are stations that haven't for the most part played it yet. So them adding the song gives some indication that they intend to do so. Then there are a lot of stations that are playing it that haven't added it yet.

ETA: Mix104.1 is still playing Heartless. I heard it tonight. There would have to be a good reason they haven't added LLWD yet. They tend to be a very Idol-winner-oriented station (I heard David Cook's Come Back To Me twice today). Aren't adds supposed to happen tomorrow, anyway?
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Someone on TWOP said that the Boston station was owned by CBS, and that the CBS stations tend to add songs later rather than sooner.

Ah, the music industry it's all so complicated.

MJ has the interview up too. You may be able to play it there. If not I can record it for you if you want.
 
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MJ has the interview up too. You may be able to play it there. If not I can record it for you if you want.
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:) Thanks, that's so nice of you to offer! I actually just listened to it on mj's. I liked it. The interviewer was nice, and Kris sounds relaxed and comfortable.

Yes, Mix104.1 is a CBS station. I'm hoping any Boston station will add it.

How do you feel? I'm still pretty hopeful about the song. It's a good song. It seems to strike people just right. I also do think there's a marketing strategy involved. I believe one common strategy is to do what they're doing with Z100. It has done great in New York. So wouldn't that indicate it will do well in most markets?
 
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I'm feeling really good about the song actually. I also think it's the type of song that grows on you and builds. It's gotten great response from reviewers, and radio stations and the general public.

It's done fantastic on Z100. (They are now my favourite radio station, lol) I'm hoping that a Toronto station will add the song too. So far it's a big zero, but after hearing it on Montreal's virgin station last night.. I have hope that it will be played.

My only negative is about it being a previously released song, but then I balance that out with the fact that it's a good song that is so completely Kris. I think Kris could do some really interesting things with it live. So it's a win for me.
Possible album cover is all over twitter..
Kris Allen, Kris Allen, Music CD - Barnes & Noble
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Hee! You beat me! So self titled I guess...?
 
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My only negative is about it being a previously released song
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I'm curious if this is a negative for you, or just that you think it's a negative generally. I'm assuming the latter.

I wonder who wrote the rules on this? You know? If it were demo'ed but never released, that would be okay. In whose book? I think this stuff ridiculous, after a certain point. It's not holy writ, it's a pop song.

ETA: I'm not referring to what you said. I mean the quote controversy unquote in general. To me the real controversy is how crappy songs continually make it to #1 on the charts. Come on, do people really buy Britney Spears songs? Who are these people? Haven't they heard that she's crazy and she can't sing? :)

I'm serious. I don't think these people really exist. I never met any. I think she buys her own single under thousands of aliases.
 
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Ooh, that's a pretty picture! He looks like an old school movie-star there.

Sorry, I'm in the shallow part of the pool tonight. And downloading mp3's that somebody made from some of Cook's concerts. I'm a happy camper.

I think the song has everything to do well. It could be said for a lot of songs that don't get airplay though. But Kris has the advantage of having the Idol machine behind him. All it takes is a little more promotion.
 
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That's a great picture! As SleepinIn has said, if they can't sell that, there's something the matter with them.

Okay, what will be the downside people will discover about the CD cover (if that is the CD cover)? Because there has to be one. This is Kris Allen, after all. (Sorry, I guess I sound a little bitter, or something. lol) Well, I guess vegans could be upset he's wearing leather.

ETA: That might very well be the CD cover, because the photo shoot was in that old theatre on Staten Island. What was the name of the place? I want to say Cozy Cove, but that isn't it! Oh, yeah -- Snug Harbor. LOL.
 
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ETA: I'm not referring to what you said. I mean the quote controversy unquote in general. To me the real controversy is how crappy songs continually make it to #1 on the charts. Come on, do people really buy Britney Spears songs? Who are these people? Haven't they heard that she's crazy and she can't sing? :icon_smile:

I'm serious. I don't think these people really exist. I never met any. I think she buys her own single under thousands of aliases.
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LOL. Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure they do exist. And Britney's new song (that I haven't heard and don't want to hear) is #1 right in the Canadian iTunes store. Bleh.
 
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Okay, here it comes already:
It looks like he’s attending a Sci-Fi flick in the 1950’s and some glowing green creature just entered the near empty theatre from behind. It’s the moment between Kris noticing the creature and realizing that he should be frightened because that thing is going to eat his brain. Of course, it’s probably just Clive and he’s just going suck out his soul, but it’s more fun to think it’s a monster that can actually be defeated.
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Kirsten, I had similar thoughts about this pic. It reminded me somehow of “Thriller” with the movie seats and the eerie look. I’m not liking it too much for an album cover. The photo is nice, but not loving the setting…
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I thought he had pics taken at that beautiful place in NYC? This doesn’t look like it could be from there at all. Not liking it as much as the MiTM photo. I hope it’s not his album cover.
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