Canadian Idol Fans Watching American Idol

missaddicted

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Jemma, you're posting again!

Congrats on the 2nd row ticket, it'll be a blast, I promise! Today's been weird though. I've been feeling a left-over "high" from last night while being disappointed that the show was over! Thankfully, show #2 is coming up next Friday!
 

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Thanks, SleepinIn --yes, I can finally post again! I don't know why I couldn't for awhile, but it's nice that the problem has been straightened out and I'm no longer a pariah! Have been reading back on the thread. You're all great writers and so interesting.
 

SleepinIn

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What's odd? You mean calling it an LP?
Just that they have it there instead of what they have at Adam's CD - which is the TBD. I don't think it's the title, but I just found it odd. It's also labeled an import and a soundtrack... it's also more expensive than Adam's on both site.. which annoys.

I'm glad you got your troubles straightened out Jemma,

You're all great writers and so interesting.

Aw, thanks Jemma. That's sweet.
 

ross 1

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Hi, Jemma!

SleepinIn, what am I doing wrong? When I go to Amazon.com (USA) and look up CDs under the category "bestselling", Adam's is not #1, it's not even on the list.

Amazon.com: CD: Music
 

missaddicted

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Yuck, underwater cellcast for the lose. Sound is awful. I can't believe that people can even recognize the songs he is doing.
 

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If you look at the responses to the twitpic, several are from British Kris fans. Yet I've read LLWD is not available on ITunes UK. Why not?!! Grrr.
 

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Do you think it has to do with the Script's version being semi-released there? I don't see why they wouldn't. Although, CD company's are odd. Look at how long it's taken for Hedley to get a simultaneous release in the US and Canada.
 

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Do you think it has to do with the Script's version being semi-released there? I don't see why they wouldn't. Although, CD company's are odd. Look at how long it's taken for Hedley to get a simultaneous release in the US and Canada.

I heard that theory about The Script before but forgot about it. I don't really get it. I guess I don't see why that would be a problem. Can you tell me why it would be? Curious.
 

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The ages are part of why I'm almost more worried about Adam at the moment than I am about Kris.

The cd that Adam is putting out from all indications that he's given isn't going to sound like anything he did on AI. Although I could be wrong, he hasn't put it out, and no one really knows anything. But he's said that the soundtrack song is rock and might be more what those folk are expecting.

From what Adam himself has said his cd is going to be more Lady Gaga, type dance, electronica. I almost want to say Dragonette or Goldfrapp. But who knows - maybe I'm wrong about this. I wouldn't mind Goldfrapp and Dragonette because I really love them. So maybe I'm projecting my wants on Adam too, lol.

But, yeah, your either in the middle of the pack and I worry because I want your CD to sell or your #1 and I worry because there is no where to go but down.. why do I watch this show again? Entertainment? lmao.

I heard that theory about The Script before but forgot about it. I don't really get it. I guess I don't see why that would be a problem. Can you tell me why it would be? Curious.
I don't really think it would be a problem to release it in the UK. But I don't know about rights issues or legalities in regards to the song. It's crazy that they would pick a song that had restrictions though .. so who knows? Maybe it's just a record label thing.
 
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ross 1

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Oh, rights (re The Script). Yeah. I don't know how this stuff works. The Script is on RCA-UK. ...Jive, RCA, etc. -- they're all subgroups of some big corporation, right? Is it Sony? I can't see them releasing a single that couldn't legally be released in such a big market as the UK. But I guess stranger things have happened.

Was it you, SleepinIn, who said a New Zealand fan tweeted it wasn't available in NZ either? (Well, I read it somewhere.) Maybe it's more like a decision not to spend money to market the single in all international markets. Based on surveys, or something. Who knows? But I've been wondering how they can compare the sales of a single that's not available everywhere with the sales of other singles that are (available everywhere).

SleepinIn, did we miss some of your post, or did you just start it in lower case? lol

I see what you're saying -- you think this older demographic that likes Adam may not go for the type of music on his CD. That might be an issue. I was thinking in a different way. I was just thinking it's odd so many of Adam's fans are seniors. Are you aware of many Top 40 type pop stars who appeal to this demographic? I don't know if this could be a millstone for him. I mean, it could be a joke. Adam and his 65 year old groupies.

Also, when I see him pre-selling so many CD's on Amazon, I just think of people buying CD's for themselves and all their friends. People with money to spend, i. e., not young people. Not to put these people down, in any way. Besides, it hardly matters who your audience is, as long as they spend their money on you. But it's funny how, when you have this type of audience, they can take over the fan stuff and get into warring factions and all that, and I think they can drive young fans off. (I. e., young fans who just want to enjoy the artist and have fun.)
 
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missaddicted

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Maybe it's more like a decision not to spend money to market the single in all international markets. I really don't know.

That's certainly a possiblity, I think. Though it might be released with a delay. I think that what happened with Cook's record in certain countries. It should be released in the U.K. though, the complete album at least.

From David's twitter:

Canada. Thank You. Cannot wait to come back. Seriously. Back to Montreal to fly to LA so I can write some more, with Raine and Chantal

Yay for more writing with Raine (Maida) and Chantal (Kreviazuk). I still find it quite incredible that the guy who had been his own idol for years is now his collaborator and probably even his friend. I'm sure Maida is probably a better mentor for David than all the useless mentors they've had on Idol!
 

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Though it might be released with a delay. I think that what happened with Cook's record in certain countries.

Yeah, I thought of that, too. I don't know what the delay is for, but I guess there are reasons.

why do I watch this show again? Entertainment? lmao.

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SleepinIn

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SleepinIn, did we miss some of your post, or did you just start it in lower case? lol

Fixed it just for you Ross. :) Nope nothing missing, just slacking on proper sentence structure.

Are you aware of many Top 40 type pop stars who appeal to this demographic? I don't know if this could be a millstone for him. I mean, it could be a joke. Adam and his 65 year old groupies.

I think that's a common problem with the peeps coming off Idol. I mean it's not really a problem. It's actually great that they appeal to a wider audience, with larger bankbooks, but it does drag down the cool factor for all of them.

It should be released in the U.K. though, the complete album at least.

I think it will be too. I can't imagine them not releasing it there.

I'm sure Maida is probably a better mentor for David than all the useless mentors they've had on Idol!

I actually LOVE that Raine has become a mentor to David. He's just coolest guy. I've been a big fan for ages. First of all I loved David for being a fan of OLP - and then loved Raine and Chantal for taking David under their wing. They are great songwriters too.

I sing this in the dark.. dramatically - LOL
YouTube - Our Lady Peace - 4am

I also sing Chantel's song dramatically
YouTube - Chantal Kreviazuk - Wayne [OFFICIAL MUSIC VIDEO]

Too bad I can't sing all that well.. :p But I do it with feeling. :)
 

ross 1

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Fixed it just for you Ross. :icon_smile: Nope nothing missing, just slacking on proper sentence structure.

Aw, I was hoping for even more of your brilliance. Oh, well. :)

I don't think we've talked about the deluxe version of Adam's CD yet. Does this surprise you? Is it a first for a first-time idol CD? Do you think Kris will have one, too? I'm guessing that's what all these photo-shoot locations are all about.
 

Jemma

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Missaddicted, I'm so happy that David's first two Canadian concerts were successes. Frankly, given the fact that there was little lead time and publicity, I was a little worried for him, especially in Montreal where American Idol isn't all that big. I’m thrilled that things went so amazingly well – it bodes well for Orillia in November!

Ross, I'm not so sure most of Adam's fans are oldsters, although from what you guys have found online, it's obvious some of these people are ridiculously fanatic. I think a lot of idol fans are basically just television watchers rather than real music fans. Whether they like Kris, Adam or someone else, their interest will likely wane when next season gets underway and they have a new group to obsess about.

I saw the Idol show in Hamilton and the crowd there was very mixed and included lots of teens and twenty-somethings along with the older types. From what I observed, the younger people seemed about evenly split in their allegiances to both Kris and Adam. I guess I'm saying that I think they both have a wide cross-section of support that can't be pigeon-holed into a narrow demographic.

I should also add that although DC remains my favourite idol of all-time, I like both Adam and Kris a lot. Maybe I'll get into my reasons in another post sometime!