Canada's new ambassador to the U.S.

[Twila]

Excellent points, Jay. Do we know why he's no longer with the Carlyle group?

 

[Zed]

I should have also said former member of the group. I have a suspicion that once a member always a member. Much like Cheney doesn't work for Halliburton anymore. :roll: Imho I can't imagine McKenna using info from Carlyle to help Canada unless it's helping Carlyle at the same time.

 

[Zed]

I should have also said former member of the group. I have a suspicion that once a member always a member. Much like Cheney doesn't work for Halliburton anymore. :roll: Imho I can't imagine McKenna using info from Carlyle to help Canada unless it's helping Carlyle at the same time.

 

[Zed]

I should have also said former member of the group. I have a suspicion that once a member always a member. Much like Cheney doesn't work for Halliburton anymore. :roll: Imho I can't imagine McKenna using info from Carlyle to help Canada unless it's helping Carlyle at the same time.

 

[Reverend Blair]

uh.... that was Ten PENNY.... you're getting closer to 50 every day Rev.

Yes I am, Ten Packs. Yesterday I felt 87, today I feel a good ten years younger. 8O

With Canadian/US relations a little on the icy side lately, wouldn't it be a good idea to give them a warm cozy feeling with the new Ambassador?

Relations were fine until Bush came to power. Perhaps we should just wait until the US decides not to have a brutally stupid, anti-democratic, war-monger in charge. We didn't make things Icy, Bush did.

Also he should be representing Canada and not the Carlyle Group as that’s who is paying him to do the job and he’s reporting to the PM.

He should be, but will he. Nobody really knows exactly what McKenna's relationship with Carlyle is. They are very secretive. They also pay in the millions. Ambassadors don't make that much.

Since he is an insider into the kind of groups the Bush types belong, we could get the inside scoop on what is being planned and why. It would allow us to be more prepared when dealing with America.

Yeah, and having Enron dictate energy policy to Dick "Spiro Agnew" Cheney was good for the American people and the world.

Excellent points, Jay. Do we know why he's no longer with the Carlyle group?

We don't. His official is over, but the ties still remain.

I should have also said former member of the group. I have a suspicion that once a member always a member. Much like Cheney doesn't work for Halliburton anymore.

Yeah, or Martin has nothing to do with Canada Steamships. C'mon, I still do contract work for a company I haven't had any "official" involvement with for a decade because I know people there. It never goes away.

Imho I can't imagine McKenna using info from Carlyle to help Canada unless it's helping Carlyle at the same time.

That's the reality of letting corporations and their lackies run things.

 

[Reverend Blair]

uh.... that was Ten PENNY.... you're getting closer to 50 every day Rev.

Yes I am, Ten Packs. Yesterday I felt 87, today I feel a good ten years younger. 8O

With Canadian/US relations a little on the icy side lately, wouldn't it be a good idea to give them a warm cozy feeling with the new Ambassador?

Relations were fine until Bush came to power. Perhaps we should just wait until the US decides not to have a brutally stupid, anti-democratic, war-monger in charge. We didn't make things Icy, Bush did.

Also he should be representing Canada and not the Carlyle Group as that’s who is paying him to do the job and he’s reporting to the PM.

He should be, but will he. Nobody really knows exactly what McKenna's relationship with Carlyle is. They are very secretive. They also pay in the millions. Ambassadors don't make that much.

Since he is an insider into the kind of groups the Bush types belong, we could get the inside scoop on what is being planned and why. It would allow us to be more prepared when dealing with America.

Yeah, and having Enron dictate energy policy to Dick "Spiro Agnew" Cheney was good for the American people and the world.

Excellent points, Jay. Do we know why he's no longer with the Carlyle group?

We don't. His official is over, but the ties still remain.

I should have also said former member of the group. I have a suspicion that once a member always a member. Much like Cheney doesn't work for Halliburton anymore.

Yeah, or Martin has nothing to do with Canada Steamships. C'mon, I still do contract work for a company I haven't had any "official" involvement with for a decade because I know people there. It never goes away.

Imho I can't imagine McKenna using info from Carlyle to help Canada unless it's helping Carlyle at the same time.

That's the reality of letting corporations and their lackies run things.

 

[Reverend Blair]

uh.... that was Ten PENNY.... you're getting closer to 50 every day Rev.

Yes I am, Ten Packs. Yesterday I felt 87, today I feel a good ten years younger. 8O

With Canadian/US relations a little on the icy side lately, wouldn't it be a good idea to give them a warm cozy feeling with the new Ambassador?

Relations were fine until Bush came to power. Perhaps we should just wait until the US decides not to have a brutally stupid, anti-democratic, war-monger in charge. We didn't make things Icy, Bush did.

Also he should be representing Canada and not the Carlyle Group as that’s who is paying him to do the job and he’s reporting to the PM.

He should be, but will he. Nobody really knows exactly what McKenna's relationship with Carlyle is. They are very secretive. They also pay in the millions. Ambassadors don't make that much.

Since he is an insider into the kind of groups the Bush types belong, we could get the inside scoop on what is being planned and why. It would allow us to be more prepared when dealing with America.

Yeah, and having Enron dictate energy policy to Dick "Spiro Agnew" Cheney was good for the American people and the world.

Excellent points, Jay. Do we know why he's no longer with the Carlyle group?

We don't. His official is over, but the ties still remain.

I should have also said former member of the group. I have a suspicion that once a member always a member. Much like Cheney doesn't work for Halliburton anymore.

Yeah, or Martin has nothing to do with Canada Steamships. C'mon, I still do contract work for a company I haven't had any "official" involvement with for a decade because I know people there. It never goes away.

Imho I can't imagine McKenna using info from Carlyle to help Canada unless it's helping Carlyle at the same time.

That's the reality of letting corporations and their lackies run things.

 

[TenPenny]

McKenna is a bright man, and will be a good ambassador to the us. Unfortunately, I wonder what kind of a PM Martin is; he seems pretty weak willed. Oh well. Better than the alternative, any way.

All this fuss over McKenna - can anyone name any other ambassadors to the US, other than Gottlieb and Chretien?

Didn't think you could.

 

[TenPenny]

McKenna is a bright man, and will be a good ambassador to the us. Unfortunately, I wonder what kind of a PM Martin is; he seems pretty weak willed. Oh well. Better than the alternative, any way.

All this fuss over McKenna - can anyone name any other ambassadors to the US, other than Gottlieb and Chretien?

Didn't think you could.

 

[TenPenny]

McKenna is a bright man, and will be a good ambassador to the us. Unfortunately, I wonder what kind of a PM Martin is; he seems pretty weak willed. Oh well. Better than the alternative, any way.

All this fuss over McKenna - can anyone name any other ambassadors to the US, other than Gottlieb and Chretien?

Didn't think you could.

 

[Vanni Fucci]

Canadian Attendees of the Bilderberg Conference 2000-2004

2000

Asper, Israel; Chairman, CanWest Capital Group Inc.
Black, Conrad; Chair, Telegraph Group Ltd.
Frum, David; Columnist, National Post Newspaper

2001

Black, Conrad M. - Canada, Chairman and C.E.O., Hollinger International, Inc.; Chairman, Telegraph Group Ltd.
Hunkin, John - Chairman and C.E.O., Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce
Lord, Bernard - Premier of New Brunswick
MacMillan, Margaret O. - Editor, International Journal, Canadian Institute of International Affairs
Monroe-Blum, Heather - Vice-President for Research and International Relations, University of Toronto
Whyte, Kenneth - Canada, Editor-in-Chief, The National Post

2002

Baillie, A. Charles - Chairman and CEO, TD Bank Financial Group
Black, Conrad M. - Chairman, Telegraph Group Ltd.
Frum, David - American Enterprise Institute; Former Special Assistant to President Bush
Reisman, Heather - President and CEO, Indigo Books and Music Inc.
Whyte, Kenneth - Editor, The National Post


2003

Black, Conrad M. - Chairman, Telegraph Group Limited
Fell, Anthony S. - Chairman, RBC Dominion Securities Inc.
Harper, Stephen - Leader of the Opposition
MacMillan, Margaret O. - Provost, Trinity College, University of Toronto
Reisman, Heather - President and CEO, Indigo Books & Music Inc.
Steyn, Mark - Journalist for various publications

2004

Lynch, Kevin G. - Deputy Minister, Department of Finance
McKenna, Frank - Counsel, McInnes Cooper, former premier of New Brunswick
Reisman, Heather - President and CEO, Indigo Books and Music Inc.

The Bilderberg Conference is an annual event, hosted in a different country every year, and attended by world leaders, and power elites. There is never any news coverage on this event, and no one really knows what they discuss in their meetings.

If I were to go back even further, 1996 for instance, the guest list would include Ralph Klein, Michael Harris, Fredrick Eaton, Allen Gottlieb, Jean Chretien, and of course, Paul Martin, among others. McKenna attended in 1994 as well.

...it's always been of interest to me why so many bankers, media moguls and war hawks would need to meet in near secrecy...I wonder what they're up to... :idea:

 

[Vanni Fucci]

Canadian Attendees of the Bilderberg Conference 2000-2004

2000

Asper, Israel; Chairman, CanWest Capital Group Inc.
Black, Conrad; Chair, Telegraph Group Ltd.
Frum, David; Columnist, National Post Newspaper

2001

Black, Conrad M. - Canada, Chairman and C.E.O., Hollinger International, Inc.; Chairman, Telegraph Group Ltd.
Hunkin, John - Chairman and C.E.O., Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce
Lord, Bernard - Premier of New Brunswick
MacMillan, Margaret O. - Editor, International Journal, Canadian Institute of International Affairs
Monroe-Blum, Heather - Vice-President for Research and International Relations, University of Toronto
Whyte, Kenneth - Canada, Editor-in-Chief, The National Post

2002

Baillie, A. Charles - Chairman and CEO, TD Bank Financial Group
Black, Conrad M. - Chairman, Telegraph Group Ltd.
Frum, David - American Enterprise Institute; Former Special Assistant to President Bush
Reisman, Heather - President and CEO, Indigo Books and Music Inc.
Whyte, Kenneth - Editor, The National Post


2003

Black, Conrad M. - Chairman, Telegraph Group Limited
Fell, Anthony S. - Chairman, RBC Dominion Securities Inc.
Harper, Stephen - Leader of the Opposition
MacMillan, Margaret O. - Provost, Trinity College, University of Toronto
Reisman, Heather - President and CEO, Indigo Books & Music Inc.
Steyn, Mark - Journalist for various publications

2004

Lynch, Kevin G. - Deputy Minister, Department of Finance
McKenna, Frank - Counsel, McInnes Cooper, former premier of New Brunswick
Reisman, Heather - President and CEO, Indigo Books and Music Inc.

The Bilderberg Conference is an annual event, hosted in a different country every year, and attended by world leaders, and power elites. There is never any news coverage on this event, and no one really knows what they discuss in their meetings.

If I were to go back even further, 1996 for instance, the guest list would include Ralph Klein, Michael Harris, Fredrick Eaton, Allen Gottlieb, Jean Chretien, and of course, Paul Martin, among others. McKenna attended in 1994 as well.

...it's always been of interest to me why so many bankers, media moguls and war hawks would need to meet in near secrecy...I wonder what they're up to... :idea:

 

[Vanni Fucci]

Canadian Attendees of the Bilderberg Conference 2000-2004

2000

Asper, Israel; Chairman, CanWest Capital Group Inc.
Black, Conrad; Chair, Telegraph Group Ltd.
Frum, David; Columnist, National Post Newspaper

2001

Black, Conrad M. - Canada, Chairman and C.E.O., Hollinger International, Inc.; Chairman, Telegraph Group Ltd.
Hunkin, John - Chairman and C.E.O., Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce
Lord, Bernard - Premier of New Brunswick
MacMillan, Margaret O. - Editor, International Journal, Canadian Institute of International Affairs
Monroe-Blum, Heather - Vice-President for Research and International Relations, University of Toronto
Whyte, Kenneth - Canada, Editor-in-Chief, The National Post

2002

Baillie, A. Charles - Chairman and CEO, TD Bank Financial Group
Black, Conrad M. - Chairman, Telegraph Group Ltd.
Frum, David - American Enterprise Institute; Former Special Assistant to President Bush
Reisman, Heather - President and CEO, Indigo Books and Music Inc.
Whyte, Kenneth - Editor, The National Post


2003

Black, Conrad M. - Chairman, Telegraph Group Limited
Fell, Anthony S. - Chairman, RBC Dominion Securities Inc.
Harper, Stephen - Leader of the Opposition
MacMillan, Margaret O. - Provost, Trinity College, University of Toronto
Reisman, Heather - President and CEO, Indigo Books & Music Inc.
Steyn, Mark - Journalist for various publications

2004

Lynch, Kevin G. - Deputy Minister, Department of Finance
McKenna, Frank - Counsel, McInnes Cooper, former premier of New Brunswick
Reisman, Heather - President and CEO, Indigo Books and Music Inc.

The Bilderberg Conference is an annual event, hosted in a different country every year, and attended by world leaders, and power elites. There is never any news coverage on this event, and no one really knows what they discuss in their meetings.

If I were to go back even further, 1996 for instance, the guest list would include Ralph Klein, Michael Harris, Fredrick Eaton, Allen Gottlieb, Jean Chretien, and of course, Paul Martin, among others. McKenna attended in 1994 as well.

...it's always been of interest to me why so many bankers, media moguls and war hawks would need to meet in near secrecy...I wonder what they're up to... :idea:

 

[NSA]

RE: Canada's new ambassad

I find it interesting that McKenna's membership on an advisory board to the Carlyle Group is such a big issue. If that's the case, then his membership on the boards of some literacy groups is also scary. Why isn't that an issue?

There's no risk he'll act on the sinister and cloudy motives of the Carlyle Group in his literacy positions. Sounds paranoid I know but that's the argument. People are rightly suspicious of this organization, because of its concentration of power and wealth.

One thing I always understood was that ambassadors had little discretion in how they conducted affairs - they just represent the will of their government. So I am a little confused as to why people thing McKenna would be such a threat as our ambassador to the US. Wouldn't he just be acting under the orders of our warm-and-fuzzy but corporate-friendly Liberals?

A weird but interesting (non-fiction) book called "Them" By John Ronson looks at the Bilderberg group meetings, where he finds them having dippy "pagan owl rituals" in a remote location and generally looking like rich idiots. I really wasn't sure what to make of that.

 

[NSA]

RE: Canada's new ambassad

I find it interesting that McKenna's membership on an advisory board to the Carlyle Group is such a big issue. If that's the case, then his membership on the boards of some literacy groups is also scary. Why isn't that an issue?

There's no risk he'll act on the sinister and cloudy motives of the Carlyle Group in his literacy positions. Sounds paranoid I know but that's the argument. People are rightly suspicious of this organization, because of its concentration of power and wealth.

One thing I always understood was that ambassadors had little discretion in how they conducted affairs - they just represent the will of their government. So I am a little confused as to why people thing McKenna would be such a threat as our ambassador to the US. Wouldn't he just be acting under the orders of our warm-and-fuzzy but corporate-friendly Liberals?

A weird but interesting (non-fiction) book called "Them" By John Ronson looks at the Bilderberg group meetings, where he finds them having dippy "pagan owl rituals" in a remote location and generally looking like rich idiots. I really wasn't sure what to make of that.

 

[NSA]

RE: Canada's new ambassad

I find it interesting that McKenna's membership on an advisory board to the Carlyle Group is such a big issue. If that's the case, then his membership on the boards of some literacy groups is also scary. Why isn't that an issue?

There's no risk he'll act on the sinister and cloudy motives of the Carlyle Group in his literacy positions. Sounds paranoid I know but that's the argument. People are rightly suspicious of this organization, because of its concentration of power and wealth.

One thing I always understood was that ambassadors had little discretion in how they conducted affairs - they just represent the will of their government. So I am a little confused as to why people thing McKenna would be such a threat as our ambassador to the US. Wouldn't he just be acting under the orders of our warm-and-fuzzy but corporate-friendly Liberals?

A weird but interesting (non-fiction) book called "Them" By John Ronson looks at the Bilderberg group meetings, where he finds them having dippy "pagan owl rituals" in a remote location and generally looking like rich idiots. I really wasn't sure what to make of that.

 

[Vanni Fucci]

Re: RE: Canada's new ambassad

A weird but interesting (non-fiction) book called "Them" By John Ronson looks at the Bilderberg group meetings, where he finds them having dippy "pagan owl rituals" in a remote location and generally looking like rich idiots. I really wasn't sure what to make of that.

I think that was Bohemian Grove...but same deal...

Also McKenna has already said that it's just fine and dandy that US inspectors be allowed to operate in Canadian ports...I wonder how much of that we're going to see with this clown...

 

[Vanni Fucci]

Re: RE: Canada's new ambassad

A weird but interesting (non-fiction) book called "Them" By John Ronson looks at the Bilderberg group meetings, where he finds them having dippy "pagan owl rituals" in a remote location and generally looking like rich idiots. I really wasn't sure what to make of that.

I think that was Bohemian Grove...but same deal...

Also McKenna has already said that it's just fine and dandy that US inspectors be allowed to operate in Canadian ports...I wonder how much of that we're going to see with this clown...

 

[Vanni Fucci]

Re: RE: Canada's new ambassad

A weird but interesting (non-fiction) book called "Them" By John Ronson looks at the Bilderberg group meetings, where he finds them having dippy "pagan owl rituals" in a remote location and generally looking like rich idiots. I really wasn't sure what to make of that.

I think that was Bohemian Grove...but same deal...

Also McKenna has already said that it's just fine and dandy that US inspectors be allowed to operate in Canadian ports...I wonder how much of that we're going to see with this clown...

 

[Reverend Blair]

One thing I always understood was that ambassadors had little discretion in how they conducted affairs - they just represent the will of their government. So I am a little confused as to why people thing McKenna would be such a threat as our ambassador to the US. Wouldn't he just be acting under the orders of our warm-and-fuzzy but corporate-friendly Liberals?

That's what ambassadors are supposed to do. That's why the politically motivated appointments are usually fairly low-level patronage deals to generally congenial but diplomatically unimportant countries.

This McKenna appointment is a different kind of animal. It doesn;t make any sense, especially in the context of Paul Martin wanting to micro-manage Canada/US relations.