Canada Has Not Learned Yet

[no1important]

RE: Canada Has Not Learne

I have posted there on the very very odd occasion but it is not my type of board. I am currently checking the CAP website. I will let you know what I think when I am done.

 

[mrmom2]

CAP looks ok from a glance but when I read the leaders bio turns me right off Another lawyer :x Theres to many lawyers in Ottawa already there responsible for the mess . :wink: Last thing Ottawa needs is another lawyer

 

[Robair]

Yea it's getting so you almost have to wear a 'flame' retardant suit over there.

The CAP sound a tad left of where I like to be, but they are the only party, as far as I know, that are willing to dig in their heels and tackle the big issues I want tackled.

The very issues that are a result of Liberal, Con, Liberal, Con, Liberal, Liberal rule in this country and nothing else for too long (the topic of this thread).

 

[Vanni Fucci]

Hey Robair...I too was over at CKA for awhile, but migrated here, and never looked back...

I remember reading your posts there though, and I found you to be, more often than not, far more balanced than those you were debating...

So welcome to Canadian Content, where we try to keep the flaming down to mere smouldering embers of malcontent...

I couldn't agree more with what you said about the Libs and Cons being corporate sellouts, and that they are both looking to Americanize our great nation...

I don't know much about the CAP and their platform, but I'll be looking into it before the next election, for sure...

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Canada Has Not Learne

I don't look at the CAP as a left-wing party so much as a party that has looked at the results of past policies and come up with alternatives based on what has worked and what hasn't.

They aren't my party of choice (I think everybody already knew that) but it is exactly the kind of thinking that can bring real change.

 

[Musicman]

Re: RE: Canada Has Not Learne

I don't look at the CAP as a left-wing party so much as a party that has looked at the results of past policies and come up with alternatives based on what has worked and what hasn't.

They aren't my party of choice (I think everybody already knew that) but it is exactly the kind of thinking that can bring real change.

Oddly enough, I agree. The CAP may be worth looking at before the next election.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Canada Has Not Learne

Like I said before, there's plenty of choices no matter where you live. There is no reason to vote for Liberals or Conservatives or Republicans or Democrats. To think those parties will suddenly be different after all these years is silly.

 

[Musicman]

Re: RE: Canada Has Not Learne

Like I said before, there's plenty of choices no matter where you live. There is no reason to vote for Liberals or Conservatives or Republicans or Democrats. To think those parties will suddenly be different after all these years is silly.

You forgot to include the NDP in your list of parties that will not change either. So they are out, too. :wink:

 

[Reverend Blair]

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Do you know anything at all about the NDP, Blue? No, you don't. All you no is a litany of inaccuracies and purposeful mistruths spread by miscreants like Harper.

 

[Musicman]

Re: RE: Canada Has Not Learne

Do you know anything at all about the NDP, Blue? No, you don't. All you no is a litany of inaccuracies and purposeful mistruths spread by miscreants like Harper.

Well if that is indeed true, then the same comments can be made about you and the misguided who support the NDP. The left are the masters of inaccuracies and purposeful mistruths, including the Liberals and NDP. They lie when the truth would serve them better, because they don't know how to tell the truth anymore.

 

[Robair]

Re: RE: Canada Has Not Learne

Oddly enough, I agree. The CAP may be worth looking at before the next election.

Yep, startin' a revolution. I've even managed to get the CKA crew talking about them.

Even if they were to get a few reps in there, they could maybe bring attention to the foriegn ownership/takeover crisis Canada is facing. I think most Canucks are somewhat oblivious

 

[mrmom2]

Robair said maybe bring attention to the foriegn ownership/takeover crisis Canada is facing. I think most Canucks are somewhat oblivious

In my experience most Canadians are obliviuos to what goes on the world in general unless its on corporate media 8O

 

[no1important]

RE: Canada Has Not Learne

The CAP seems like a good alternative to the main parties. I would seriously consider voting for them if an NDP candidate was not running in my riding.

The CAP policies have potential to work. I would like to find out more about their social issues, and what type of people will belong to this party. Something to think about anyways. Who knows maybe one day I will vote for them.

 

[Vanni Fucci]

Hitler's Germany Revisited in Canadian Eavesdropping Law?

 

[damngrumpy]

How quick some are to forget, Brian Mulrooooooney once held all that power and he used it for his own ends too. We need a strong federal government, no matter who is in power. Its not how much power one has, it is really about, how much wisdom they bring to that position. Martin is not my first choice, but Harper for PM, that scares me. Stockwell Day was a Born Again simpleton, and Harper is slippery. He is a political misfit, but he is able to somewhat hide his ill will for minorities in this country.
If we were to elect the Conservatives Harper would be in political bed with George Bush overnight.
The biggest fear this country faces is the Fundamentalists of various religions will gain power. We critisize the Muslims, however the fundamentalist Christians are every bit as crazy, and they have the communication skills, to make collective insanity look normal. Nope we need to leave things alone, the system works, its not perfect but it keeps the conservatives from coming to power.
Oh and the conservative economic package has a poor track record.
Reagen, biggest spending on useless things, Bush senior, one of the biggest tax hikes in history, Bush Junior, the economy will soon be in melt down, even the conservatives under Brian M, had spending way out of control.

 

[Senathos]

We need a strong federal government, no matter who is in power.

Thats the problem with Canada currently.. the provinces were originally intended to balance out the large differences in Canada, but some peoples ideas of a socialist country (*cough ndp/trudeau cough*) have stolen powers from the provinces. The Feds have stolen tax points from the provinces, which causes all the provinces to bicker and fight for more money because they can't raise provincial taxes without losing population, like seeing who is the strongest kid in the family, pathetic.

The Feds should be limited by law to only matching taxes by provincal taxes -- say Ontario has a 20% income tax, the Feds should only be able to do 20%, and only go higher incase of a National Crisis or War

 

[damngrumpy]

This country was founded on responsible government for Canadians, I know that does not appear to be the case, sometimes
but that was the intent. A strong government can even be a minority government, it all depends on how well the people in power can bargain with others.
The one thing I like about the system is that it makes it difficult to have the Tories elected, ha ha.
This conservative idea of having the provinces, increase their powers, with a weak Federal Government, would be a disaster for our country, especially when you look at who is currently in charge of the Conservatives.
I like the present system, first past the post and a strong federal government.

 

[Senathos]

RE: Canada Has Not Learne

The political powers are almost split evenly between the provs and the feds, and funding should almost be about equal, so does it not make sense to have around the same tax rates for the feds as the provinces, since they are providing almost the same amount of services?

 

[no1important]

RE: Canada Has Not Learne

I think the Feds need to retake some provincial powers. Like medical/health for one, take control natural resources like lumber, oil etc, be the only ones that can tax. Too many levels of government 4 (5 if you count translink) here in Vancouver that can impose taxes. Too much bureaucracy . Too much duplication.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Canada Has Not Learne

The feds have a lot more responsibility than the provinces though, Senathos. The military, social programs including EI, health care (via transfer payments), programs and land claims for First Nations, the foreign service, trade etc.

Running a country is much more expensive than running a province.