Canada Day means GST cut

Will you notice the GST cut?

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gc

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May 9, 2006
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Re: RE: Canada Day means GST cut

Colpy said:
Low income people will STILL get the rebate.....I believe.

I assumed that the GST rebate will decrease proportionately. I could be wrong. I couldn't find any answers about this on the Canada Revenue Agency website. Anyone know the answer?
 

BitWhys

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Apr 5, 2006
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Re: RE: Canada Day means GST

Colpy said:
BitWhys said:
bunch of tinkerputt nonsense that may as well have been handed straight to the banks and probably should have been since at least that way it would have called markers.

HUH?

Novelty aside, its of no consequence.
 

LittleRunningGag

Electoral Member
Jan 11, 2006
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Average household spending in N.L.

What am I missing? Out of that 45, 12 is shelter, 7 is food. Neither of these are taxable through the GST (I'm not entirely sure about the shelter). That means that only 26,000 is being taxed so the average N.L family will save $250. A princely sum to be sure. :wink:
 

Toro

Senate Member
May 24, 2005
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RE: Canada Day means GST

LRG

The first column is Canada

Total expenditures 63,636

Less

Food 6,910
Shelter 12,200
Reading materials and other printed matter 283
Education 1,078
 

gc

Electoral Member
May 9, 2006
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Re: RE: Canada Day means GST cut

LittleRunningGag said:
Average household spending in N.L.

What am I missing? Out of that 45, 12 is shelter, 7 is food. Neither of these are taxable through the GST (I'm not entirely sure about the shelter). That means that only 26,000 is being taxed so the average N.L family will save $250. A princely sum to be sure. :wink:

You are correct, GST is not charged on rent. It is also not charged on used homes. I think it may be charged on new homes but I'm not sure exactly how it works. Also tuition is not taxed.
 

LittleRunningGag

Electoral Member
Jan 11, 2006
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RE: Canada Day means GST

Oh missed the second column. You are still reading it wrong.

TE = 63,636

Less

PI Tax 12,905
Insurance and Pension 3,645
Gifts of money and Contributions 1,652

The total consumption includes food, shelter etc.
 

LittleRunningGag

Electoral Member
Jan 11, 2006
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Re: RE: Canada Day means GST cut

gc said:
LittleRunningGag said:
Average household spending in N.L.

What am I missing? Out of that 45, 12 is shelter, 7 is food. Neither of these are taxable through the GST (I'm not entirely sure about the shelter). That means that only 26,000 is being taxed so the average N.L family will save $250. A princely sum to be sure. :wink:

You are correct, GST is not charged on rent. It is also not charged on used homes. I think it may be charged on new homes but I'm not sure exactly how it works. Also tuition is not taxed.

Yeah, I didn't know if I paid it on my rent (or if my landlord had to deduct it).

$300'ish, a princely sum. That's almost enough to by 600GB of storage. :wink:
 

BitWhys

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Apr 5, 2006
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Household income-to-debt ratio 2003: 105%

Debt on a $63K household = 63*105% = $66K

0.25% in bankrate = $165

My conservative guess is Dodge will bump it by that at least twice more by the end of the year and dumping dollars on the market like this at best does little to stop it. In light of the larger trends this whole thing is chickenscratch that would have been better spent paying the debt directly.

Nice idea. Lousy timing.
 

LittleRunningGag

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Jan 11, 2006
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BitWhys said:
Household income-to-debt ratio 2003: 105%

Debt on a $63K household = 63*105% = $66K

0.25% in bankrate = $165

My conservative guess is Dodge will bump it by that at least twice more by the end of the year and dumping dollars on the market like this at best does little to stop it. In light of the larger trends this whole thing is chickenscratch that would have been better spent paying the debt directly.

Nice idea. Lousy timing.

See that's what I've been thinking. In a time of boom, where we are trying to slow inflation a bit, I just see this being gobbled up by inflation and interest rates. Like you said.
 

BitWhys

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Apr 5, 2006
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just a blue dipper's POV. use it or lose it but don't just scatter seed on a windy day.
 

Vicious

Electoral Member
May 12, 2006
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Re: RE: Canada Day means GST

Simpleton said:
Oh, you work in retail? Good for you. I work at home. Lots of long hard hours pumping out product, but it pays off if you stick to it and have a plan.

If I understand this correctly, your primary source of income is from donating sperm? :lol:
 

Vicious

Electoral Member
May 12, 2006
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Re: RE: Canada Day means GST

BitWhys said:
bunch of tinkerputt nonsense that may as well have been handed straight to the banks and probably should have been since at least that way it would have called markers.

The way to measure a tax cut is to ponder the howling if it was an equal tax increase.

GST change to 8% anyone?
 

gc

Electoral Member
May 9, 2006
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Re: RE: Canada Day means GST

Vicious said:
BitWhys said:
bunch of tinkerputt nonsense that may as well have been handed straight to the banks and probably should have been since at least that way it would have called markers.

The way to measure a tax cut is to ponder the howling if it was an equal tax increase.

GST change to 8% anyone?

If it meant reducing personal income taxes, then I would be all for it.
 

Simpleton

Electoral Member
Jun 17, 2006
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Re: RE: Canada Day means GST cut

gc said:
Colpy said:
First of all, the cut was the Conservatives fulfilling a campaign promise.......a new and exciting concept, wouldn't you agree?

Secondly, there is to be a second cut of one percent, thus eliminating abot 30% of the GST tax.

Thirdly, the lowest-income 25 percent of Canadians don't even pay income tax, so the .5% increase in income taxes means ABSOLUTELY nothing to them, while we all pay GST.

Not everybody pays GST! I hate when stephen harper goes on TV and says EVERYONE pays GST and EVERYONE will benefit. Not true! Those low-income people get a GST rebate...sure they may have to wait until the end of the year to get it, but they do get that money back. I make enough money to pay income taxes, but since all of my money goes to tuition/rent/food, I won't save much from the GST cut. I guess I'll save together all those extra pennies so I can use them to pay my income tax.

You don't have a phone? Phone service is taxed GST. You don't have electricity? The power company charges GST. You don't have an Internet Service Provider? ISPs charge GST.

Do you have cable television or a satellite dish? Both are services that taxed by the GST.

Unless you live in an adobe hut somewhere in some God-forsaken part of the Canadian boonies, and you have some deep hesitation about using modern amenities, YOU pay the GST! Everyone pays the GST!

And for the record, GST rebate payments are paid quarterly. The first installment arrives in July, the second in October, the third in January, and the final payment is given in April. The GST rebate is a relative pittance, when you fail to grasp the full spectrum of goods and services to which the tax is applied.

Ever buy a snack food? A video game? A piece of furniture? Ever rent a movie? Attend a sporting event or a concert? The GST is as pervasive as humanity in Canada. If you're alive, you pay the GST.
 

Simpleton

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Jun 17, 2006
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Re: RE: Canada Day means GST

Vicious said:
Simpleton said:
Oh, you work in retail? Good for you. I work at home. Lots of long hard hours pumping out product, but it pays off if you stick to it and have a plan.

If I understand this correctly, your primary source of income is from donating sperm? :lol:

Not quite. But something like that.
 

Simpleton

Electoral Member
Jun 17, 2006
443
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Sarnia
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LittleRunningGag said:
BitWhys said:
Household income-to-debt ratio 2003: 105%

Debt on a $63K household = 63*105% = $66K

0.25% in bankrate = $165

My conservative guess is Dodge will bump it by that at least twice more by the end of the year and dumping dollars on the market like this at best does little to stop it. In light of the larger trends this whole thing is chickenscratch that would have been better spent paying the debt directly.

Nice idea. Lousy timing.

See that's what I've been thinking. In a time of boom, where we are trying to slow inflation a bit, I just see this being gobbled up by inflation and interest rates. Like you said.

Interest rates are relatively low. Inflation is very low. And taxes are going down. Boom!