Bush 'Wins'!

[Haggis McBagpipe]

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Heh, you guys had better freaking music. All we got is crap.

This is actually very true... well, not the part about your music being crap, but about our music been outstanding. It really was fantastic, I think, by any measure. It has stood the test of time for over thirty years, it will be interesting to see how it holds up for the next thirty.

A lot of what is wrong with new music isn't the music or musicians so much as the money-obsessed labels that dredge up some no-talent, toss him/her out as a superstar 'artist', give 'em a short shelf life, 'cause otherwise they start expecting to actually get paid, then move on to the next. It has nothing to do with music, it has everything to do with money.

 

[HousesOfApollo]

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Heh. I've heard some decent protest music. I'm about to go write me a little protest song . Nothing special just some satirical folk. It opens up with "Get out the vote, get out to fight; we don't want to sodomites!" It's kind of offensive, but I think writing it will help me get all this hate out.

I grew up listening to 60's 70's music. Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Beatles, Cream, I could go on with this one. And that's sort of MY music too, I had to just latch on to something. So I think it'll still be strong years from now, I'll certainly carry the torch.

 

[pay]

Well, I'm just young enough to feel old when I read a discussion like the foregoing...

About age and sense, I'd say the correlation is shaky. "There's no fool like an old fool..." but these young (<35) conservatives like we find on The Discussion Forum That Dares Not Speak Its Psycho Misanthropist Nutbar Name (see the Canadians Moving to USA thread) give me the heebie-jeebies.

My mate and I have sort of informally adopted 3 kids she used to watch. The eldest of them is 11 and he's always bouncing ideas about religion and politics off me. I try really hard just to expand his horizons, not influence his biases, but he's smart and humane so he tends towards progressive politics and ecumenical religion. He phoned at 7:30 on Nov.3 and began the call with "Stupid Americans!". I had to laugh!

I learn more honestly trying answer one of his questions than from 100 pages of erudite punditry.

They say that the old fox can learn more from the young buck than the young buck can from the old fox. I reckon there's something to that.

Edited to add:
I'm something of a musical fogey for sure, but I believe there are two Immutable Laws of Music:

1. The Pop music of every generation is 90% crap for people who like inoffensive noise rather than music.
2. Every generation has its own poets and muscial geniuses, but they don't live on AM and often you have to hunt for them.

 

[Haggis McBagpipe]

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nd that's sort of MY music too, I had to just latch on to something.

It sure as hell IS your music too. Music belongs to those who claim it, and when music strikes a chord with you, as that music has done, then it is as surely your music as it was ours.

 

[HousesOfApollo]

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I hate the so-called eudite punditry. My god they've destroyed 'common sense'. The Canadians moving to America thread is frightened. All the nuts in the Canada can just move down here, if they exchange for our liberals moving up there . I'd be the best cross-pollination possible; American Liberalism is really cool. And all the nuts can have their stupid banana Republic.

 

[HousesOfApollo]

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My favorites now are "I'd love to change the world" by Ten years after and "If 6 was 9" by Jimi Hendrix .

 

[HousesOfApollo]

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Oh, and "Masters of War" by Bob Dylan.

 

[Haggis McBagpipe]

but these young (<35) conservatives like we find on The Discussion Forum That Dares Not Speak Its Psycho Misanthropist Nutbar Name (see the Canadians Moving to USA thread) give me the heebie-jeebies.

Nothing gives me the heebie-jeebies like a young conservative. It isn't natural, if you're not idealistic, progressive, hopeful and caring about your fellow man when you're young, god spare me from meeting you when you're old. Always remind me of Hitler youth, those young Republicans.

 

[HousesOfApollo]

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I just call them "Bush Youth" and they're every damn where, and they're especially violent. They're the kind of people that killed Matther Shepard, they're monsters, just monsters...

 

[Haggis McBagpipe]

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PS Wonder how Hendrix's awesome anthem would go over with the young conservatives?

 

[HousesOfApollo]

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The insult our Rock Stars, call "Just another dead Junkie" and shit like that. I hate those people with every fiber of my being, I hate them so much it scares me. I don't know where that hate's going to go...

 

[Haggis McBagpipe]

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The insult our Rock Stars, call "Just another dead Junkie" and shit like that. I hate those people with every fiber of my being, I hate them so much it scares me. I don't know where that hate's going to go...

Well, hopefully you replace it with anger. Being so full of hate will make you just like them, and I suspect this is not what you want. Hate drains you, takes all your energy. Be angry, but not pointlessly so, work on the stuff you can do to make the changes you'd like to see.

 

[HousesOfApollo]

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Yea, but not hating them is impossible, it's a natural reaction. Their execrable behavior, and their disgusting lifestyles; oh how I detest them. But you're right, I'm going to be outraged, genuinely pissed; not just reactionary, believing in something. Hate them for what you love, and for the threat that they are to it. Otherwise we'll become completely black-hearted.

 

[Reverend Blair]

A lot of what is wrong with new music isn't the music or musicians so much as the money-obsessed labels that dredge up some no-talent, toss him/her out as a superstar 'artist', give 'em a short shelf life, 'cause otherwise they start expecting to actually get paid, then move on to the next. It has nothing to do with music, it has everything to do with money.

The sixties had more crap than gold too...don't forget that. The generation that heard the Beatles and the Stones for the first time also had Petula Clark and Herman's Hermits polluting the airwaves. I think it's kind of natural that the largest generation ever also created more music than any other generation though...just kind of makes sense.

 

[Rick van Opbergen]

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Hey I think the music at the moment is great too! I personally don't like the music of the 60's, 70's, like the Beatles, or the Rolling Stones ... but DJ's, rock and gothic: that's more like it 8)

 

[Haggis McBagpipe]

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The definitive answer (to the thread subject)

 

[Rick van Opbergen]

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:lol: :lol: where do you get these things Haggis?

 

[Haggis McBagpipe]

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Tom Tomorrow is one of my favourites, he puts out a cartoon once a week: http://www.workingforchange.com/column_lst.cfm?AuthrId=43 (This Modern World).

 

[HousesOfApollo]

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Heh. I enjoy about less than 1% one the music out there now, and that's only because it's statistically impossible to hate EVERYTHING that comes out, no matter how bad it is.

 

[HousesOfApollo]

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Just think of it like that theory about the monkeys. If you have enough monkeys banging on keyboards for long enough, eventually you're going to get shakespear :lol: