Bush plot to merge Canada, the U.S. and Mexico

normbc9

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The latest down here in the states is the newest moniker this proposal ahs been given. It is called the SPP. and it does have a website which proudly shows the letterhead of the US White House too. It extols the virtues of this plan (and the low wage slavery it will no doubt cause to expand) and how everyone involved will prosper. With the choice of those words I cringe. None odf us (regardless of which country we live in) has prospered when dealing with the US. Look at the world situation today. The US top dogs think they can march into other parts of the world and impose their interpretation of a democracy. After twenty centuries of living under another style of government it won't happen to the nations experiencing this in our life time. And I believe this is just another friendly attempt to do just that.
 

normbc9

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The latest was this mornings announcement by the White House that the NAFTA and CAFTA agreements are bnot going over as well as anticipated. Now they claim they desperately need the Free Trade Agreement Americas (FTAA) to be passed by the Congress immediately. I support free trade and I believe that tariffs are nothing more than a financial weapon to be used on those who differ with their thinking. Look at the forest products industries in canada and their market in the US. In the states the federal lands are being burned off a a record rate. But the Canadian products could have a tarrif imposed if Washington waants to show its fanny to its best trading partner and neighbor. When it comes to power the "absolute power corrupts absolutely" is a true statement.
 

silky

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The latest was this mornings announcement by the White House that the NAFTA and CAFTA agreements are bnot going over as well as anticipated. Now they claim they desperately need the Free Trade Agreement Americas (FTAA) to be passed by the Congress immediately. I support free trade and I believe that tariffs are nothing more than a financial weapon to be used on those who differ with their thinking. Look at the forest products industries in canada and their market in the US. In the states the federal lands are being burned off a a record rate. But the Canadian products could have a tarrif imposed if Washington waants to show its fanny to its best trading partner and neighbor. When it comes to power the "absolute power corrupts absolutely" is a true statement.

Interesting that they said NAFTA isn't going as well as they anticipated, yet they want the SPP which has been described as NAFTA on steroids, now a rush for FTAA ... that means we should cool our heels immediately and make decisions that are well thought out and not a rush to judgement. :tongue8:
 

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Frick, why would anyone want anything more than just the good bits?

Currently, the US has access to all of the good bits... take Canada or Mexico, and all of a sudden you have all of their problems as well.
 

silky

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http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53124

By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

In an interview with CNBC, a vice president for a prominent London investment firm yesterday urged a move away from the dollar to the "amero," a coming North American currency, he said, that "will have a big impact on everybody's life, in Canada, the U.S. and Mexico."
Steve Previs, a vice president at Jefferies International Ltd., explained the Amero "is the proposed new currency for the North American Community which is being developed right now between Canada, the U.S. and Mexico."

The aim, he said, according to a transcript provided by CNBC to WND, is to make a "borderless community, much like the European Union, with the U.S. dollar, the Canadian dollar and the Mexican peso being replaced by the amero."

Previs told the television audience many Canadians are "upset" about the amero. Most Americans outside of Texas largely are unaware of the amero or the plans to integrate North America, Previs observed, claiming many are just "putting their head in the sand" over the plans.

CNBC asked Previs whether he thought NAFTA was "working and doing enough."

He replied: "Until it created a lot of illegal immigrants coming across the border. I don't know. You get the pros and cons on NAFTA. For some people it is a good thing, and for other people it has been a disaster."

The speculation on the future of a new North American currency came amid a major U.S. dollar sell-off worldwide that began last week.

Yesterday, the dollar also reached new multi-month low against the euro, breaking through the $1.30 per euro technical high that had held since April 2005.

At the same time, the Chinese central bank set the yuan at 7.0402 per dollar, the highest level since Beijing established a new currency exchange system in 2005 that severed China's previous policy of tying the value of the yuan to the U.S. dollar.

Many analysts worldwide attributed the dramatic fall in the value of the U.S. dollar at least partially to China's announcement last week that it would seek to diversify its foreign exchange currency holdings away from the U.S. dollar. China recently has crossed the threshold of holding $1 trillion in U.S. dollar foreign-exchange reserves, surpassing Japan as the largest holder in the world.

Barry Ritholtz, chief market strategist for Ritholtz Research & Analytics in New York City, in a phone interview with WND, characterized today's downward move of the dollar as "wackage," a new word he coined to convey that the dollar is being "whacked" in this current market movement.

Ritholtz told WND that yesterday's downward move "was a major market correction that points to the risk of subsequent downside to the dollar."

Asked whether he would characterize the dollar's downside move as signaling a possible collapse, Mr Ritholtz told WND, "Not yet."

Ritholtz pointed out market professionals had long looked at a dollar collapse as a "low probability event," but the recent fall suggests "the probabilities have increased of a major dollar correction, or even of a collapse."

U.S. trade imbalances with China have hit a record $228 billion this year, largely reflecting a surging flow of containers from China with retail goods headed for the U.S. mass market.

Secretary of Commerce Carlos Gutierrez is in Bejing leading a trade delegation of more than two dozen U.S. business executives.

"The future should be focused on exporting to China," Guiterrez told reporters in Bejing, noting that this year, U.S. exports to China are up 34 percent on a year-to-year basis, surpassing last year's gain of 20 percent.

One way to improve the U.S. trade imbalance may be to ease up on restrictions of exporting high-tech products and allowing technology transfers to China, a move likely to be politically charged in the U.S.

The decline in value of the dollar will also make U.S. exports more attractive and Chinese exports to the U.S. more expensive.

In February 2007, a virtually unprecedented top-level U.S. economic mission is scheduled to travel to China. Included in the mission are Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, Jr., Secretary of Commerce Carlos Gutierrez and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke.

Previs declined to be interviewed for this article, telling WND in an e-mail he did not want to be quoted directly in any article that may express a political point of view.
 

normbc9

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You get to read the SPP news releases. The North American Cooppeartive Security Agreement information is only found on foreign websites. The SPP information is the US tellin everyonwe what they want the to know and only that infprmation. Pravda printed the russian goverenment side. The White House only releases their side. Most of it is flowery but not factual. I have an immediate relative who is employed in the House of representatives an he tell me there are many who are elected and cannot have access to the items being discussed behind closed doors. Strange to me that we are a supposedly very opened society but we conduct what could be the future of three sovereign antions behind closed doors and two of the nations aren't even present. In the US we elected representatives of the people, not dictators.
 

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Deep Integration Planned at Secret Conference Ignored by the Media

You get to read the SPP news releases. The North American Cooppeartive Security Agreement information is only found on foreign websites. The SPP information is the US tellin everyonwe what they want the to know and only that infprmation. Pravda printed the russian goverenment side. The White House only releases their side. Most of it is flowery but not factual. I have an immediate relative who is employed in the House of representatives an he tell me there are many who are elected and cannot have access to the items being discussed behind closed doors. Strange to me that we are a supposedly very opened society but we conduct what could be the future of three sovereign antions behind closed doors and two of the nations aren't even present. In the US we elected representatives of the people, not dictators.

http://www.vivelecanada.ca/article.php/20060919132553106/print

Finally found this on my computer though it might be of interest since it was in Canada, I will only print the first couple of paragraphs please see the site for the complete story ... very interesting:

Deep Integration Planned at Secret Conference Ignored by the Media

Tuesday, September 19 2006 @ 01:25 PM MDT

Contributed by: sthompson
Here's the scandal that should be outraging Canadians across the country. On September 12-14, elite proponents of deep integration from Canada, the U.S. and Mexico met at a secret conference at the Banff Springs Hotel. Stockwell Day, Tom d'Aquino and other high-profile Canadians were there. But the Hotel doesn't want to talk about it. No major media reported on the conference--not The Globe and Mail, not the National Post, not the Toronto Star, no one. Yet the topic of the conference, deep integration or the formation of a "North American Community" aka the North American Union, will profoundly affect everything in our lives from our health and security to the currency we use (soon to be the "Amero") to our very national identity. In essence, we will no longer be Canadians, but North Americans only--and worse, North Americans hog-tied in lock-step with the U.S. even as they gain open access to our energy resources.

Our national media stays silent and so Canadians remain unaware that their own CCCE and most powerful politicians are pushing for integration with the U.S. and Mexico completely outside of the usual democratic process. The only newspaper to report anything on this as yet is the Banff Crag & Canyon, which is publishing an article on the conference today thanks to information provided by Mel Hurtig.

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silky

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The sitting and former representatives from the Liberal Party of Canada as well as the Conservative Party of Canada* are clearly identifiable, including Conservative Party Ministers and Deputy Ministers of the Government of Canada, and of some provinces,* as well as the former* Liberal Deputy Prime Minister of Canada, John Manley, and former Liberal Minister of Justice Anne McLellan . It is unclear if any representatives* from the NDP or the Bloq Quebecois were present....

If you go to the site I mentioned above:

http://www.vivelecanada.ca/article.php/20060919132553106

there you will find the list of each country's representatives (quite impressive) in attendance and the agenda.
 

normbc9

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Now that the Iraq Study Committee report has been mad public the White House will increase it's efforts to accomplish whatever the agenda is because they have to try to accelerate that agenda. Bush is in office until 2008 and then there will probably be some sweeping changes. if they can't get that agenda passed it will propbably die. I sure hope this proposal as written does just that. I'll bet the Mexicans (who stand to benefit greatly if this does become a reality) are now skeptical because they won't be allowed to have fist fights and throw chairs in the formal Assembly of the three nations. In the US if one of the eklectedbecomes a problem they are banished to their home with a life time federal pay check. No one is held accountable for their actions during their elected terms. I'll bet the suggestions just revealed in the Iraq Study Group will just be swept aside.
 

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Merging Canada and the US won't work. We are a confederation of provinces so a fair merging would require the new country to be called the Confederate States of the Americas. And that ain't gonna fly no how no way.
 

normbc9

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The most recent US elections shocked many in the power structure. They now realize that there is little time left for them to advance their top priority projects right now and so they are changing course. A temporary correction in steering may help to pave the way for a future success. Now they are proudly trottting out the attempts by some South American governments to set up a EU style of political and monetary management. They have all kinds of examples hidden back in the cloak rooms and don't get a bit shy about showing the "New" examples. If you analyze the whole idea it leads one to believe there is a well organized effort financed by a extremely welthy few to seize power in a legitimate way by making the citizens believe it is all their idea. I hope that none of us, regardless of country of residence are gulllible enough to believe that malarky. When the US industrial giants fold, who is next in line to be one of the replacements?
 

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