Bush calls for end to oil 'addiction' - hidden message?

darkbeaver

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Really? Then be grateful we allow you a piece of the pie.
The empire speaks, decent is crushed, stuff your pie. :)

" This coming from someone that lives in a country that bans books at the border, censors free speech with hate laws that are open to interpretation based on the mood of your government, a notwithstanding clause that can legally strip you of your rights because a PM didn't get laid the night before, a government riddled with scandals that has held no one accountable and election blackout laws, and you speak of democracy, transparency and accountability? Well perhaps it is in your mind."


Actually it came from your own learned authors. :)
The tone of your comments betrays your imperialist mindset.
Your opinion of Canada indicates that you would support the delivery of American freedom and democracy to this country.
When can we expect the liberation. You live in a one party state yank, you don,t have anything to teach us or any other nation about democracy!

:)
 

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darkbeaver said:
The empire speaks, decent is crushed, stuff your pie. :)

I didn't imply the USA controls the market, you did that, to even suggest such a thing is ludicrous.

darkbeaver said:
Actually it came from your own learned authors. :)

I wouldn't doubt it, we don't ban books :wink:

darkbeaver said:
The tone of your comments betrays your imperialist mindset.

You must have me confused with someone else, the US doesn't have a monarchy or emperor, you must be thinking of a Canadian.

darkbeaver said:
Your opinion of Canada indicates that you would support the delivery of American freedom and democracy to this country.

My opinion of Canada is that it needs to lessen government control of its citizens, and that's just my opinion.

darkbeaver said:
When can we expect the liberation.

At the rate you're going.....never.

darkbeaver said:
You live in a one party state yank, you don,t have anything to teach us or any other nation about democracy!
:)

We have more parties than you do, we also have laws that prevent every Tom, Dick and Harry from running in the elections unless they have a certain number of supporters, it helps keeps costs down, oh what am I saying, just throw money at the problem eh?
 

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I think not said:
darkbeaver said:
The tone of your comments betrays your imperialist mindset.

You must have me confused with someone else, the US doesn't have a monarchy or emperor, you must be thinking of a Canadian.

Don't deny that you're an imperialist exploiter ITN, you neocon PNACer you.

darkbeaver said:
Your opinion of Canada indicates that you would support the delivery of American freedom and democracy to this country.

I think not said:
My opinion of Canada is that it needs to lessen government control of its citizens, and that's just my opinion.

darkbeaver said:
When can we expect the liberation.

At the rate you're going.....never.

All it would take would be a couple of platoons to stroll across the border, ask for directions and, voila!
 

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Toro said:
All it would take would be a couple of platoons to stroll across the border, ask for directions and, voila!
At least you are in good company, now.

The last American to make that mistake was Tomas Jefferson. :)
 

darkbeaver

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itn said
I didn't imply the USA controls the market, you did that, to even suggest such a thing is ludicrous.


No you implied that the market controlled oil, and I think thats correct.But thats not the end of the story.
(FREE MARKET) = an American oxymoron. That,s ludicrous!


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Said1

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This coming from someone that lives in a country that bans books at the border, censors free speech with hate laws that are open to interpretation based on the mood of your government, a notwithstanding clause that can legally strip you of your rights because a PM didn't get laid the night before, a government riddled with scandals that has held no one accountable and election blackout laws, and you speak of democracy, transparency and accountability? Well perhaps it is in your mind.

What the hell is all this? One book and don't even try and tell me your government isn't full of horney, crooked drunks who consistently misinterpret your own constitution. Pullleeeeaaaassseee, talk to the hand.





:p
 

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Said1 said:
What the hell is all this? One book and don't even try and tell me your government isn't full of horney, crooked drunks who consistently misinterpret your own constitution. Pullleeeeaaaassseee, talk to the hand.





:p

Whatever you say :love4:
 

Said1

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I think not said:
Said1 said:
What the hell is all this? One book and don't even try and tell me your government isn't full of horney, crooked drunks who consistently misinterpret your own constitution. Pullleeeeaaaassseee, talk to the hand.





:p

Whatever you say :love4:

Bon. C'est Bon. Bon. Bon. C'est, Bon, Bon.


I need to lay off the sugar.
 

I think not

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Said1 said:
I think not said:
Said1 said:
What the hell is all this? One book and don't even try and tell me your government isn't full of horney, crooked drunks who consistently misinterpret your own constitution. Pullleeeeaaaassseee, talk to the hand.





:p

Whatever you say :love4:

Bon. C'est Bon. Bon. Bon. C'est, Bon, Bon.


I need to lay off the sugar.

:lol:
 

zoofer

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Also, it may surprise Americans to learn that, according to the most recent import statistics from the Department of Energy, the biggest petroleum exporter to the United States is Canada (at 70 million barrels in November 2005 vs. 41 million for Saudi Arabia, in a distant third place). Second is Mexico. Persian Gulf (including Saudi) oil amounted to about one-sixth of our imports and one-tenth of our total petroleum use last November.

The sad truth is that some of the big oil companies are themselves responsible for creating an environment where an oilman president can call the use of oil an addiction. In their advertising, they talk high-mindedly about "alternatives" to fossil fuels, as if they were on a moral crusade to replace the nasty stuff they make now. Why aren't they proud to say that, more and more efficiently, they are producing energy that makes people's lives better?

I suspect that some of these companies are simply being disingenuous. They're paying lip service to the chattering classes. So now is the President of the United States. The consequences could be dire.

http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=020206G

Edited the link. Click here.
 

Huck

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ITN: here is more about saddam. i use this link, but the story is well documented elsewhere. http://www.bnfp.org/neighborhood/jmoore.htm. as for wikipedia, there have been stories poping up lately about censorship problems, so i wonder how much it can be trusted to provide the real and comprometing truth.

As for wars, bcause the USA were inspired by oil for some wars doesn/t mean they were for all. Hence, korea and vietnam (im a little unfamiliar with the hidden stories about these wars. Investigation would be well suited.) This doesn't remove the facts that oil was an incentive in afghanistan, iraq and maybe even iran... its all bout control. (hey, can't blame em, we canadians would do the same in the asme position, so dont flame on this).


Ive also seen a powerpoint presentation circulating the web about an milan university course in economics that detailed how the wars on oil actually benefit the USA. the short version is that: war on oil insecures the markets, and the price goes up. 7 out of 9 big oil companies are state owned, and 2 private owned. when price goes up, a lot of money for the USA. (and the extracting government's country, because of taxes and shares). then, the war irself, the contracts are awarded to companies who profit from the sell of weapons (most of them being USA owned *cough haliburton *cough*) which in turn stimulates economy. Its well known that war is an economy booster. So in short, war is good for the USA, on all fronts.


Now, i want to be clear to all you americans on the forum: its not because i question the USA's actions that i mean that they are bad, and that canadian government is good, etc. I actually think the USA a pretty good on other aspects than the oil, and there are many thing that i hate about canada. Governments are owned by money and banks, so whatever the name you give the nation, it's usually still the same strategy and the same people ;). I try to be impartial, at least the best i can. I will question everyone that needs to be questioned ;)
 

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Huck, that's funny, I was thinking about this last night while reading the economist, I started a thread on how wars fuel the economy. Keep talking about the US government, it's your right, hell I do it all the time :wink: