Brussels plans European Union Navy.

Blackleaf

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Brussels plans an EU Navy - but the plan doesn't seem to be popular with the British (no surprises there).




Armed coastguard will be embryonic naval service

The European Commission has drawn up plans to set up a European coastguard, which critics fear is a back-door attempt by Brussels to create an EU navy with its own powers to stop and search shipping.

They come on the back of other "empire building" moves by Brussels, including a planned EU army, a common foreign policy and diplomatic service, and a European-wide policy on energy.

The commission says a European coastguard would help to enforce maritime legislation. It would have the authority to intercept shipping across all of Europe's traditional maritime borders, which could require that crews be armed - and raises questions of national sovereignty over coastal waters.

Lloyd's List, the daily newspaper which covers the maritime industry, accused the commission of attempting to build up a navy by stealth in a leading article last week.

"The concept of a European coastguard has a federalist charm about it that causes eyes to brighten instantly among gatherings of Europhiles, tired of endless discussions about fish or agriculture," the newspaper said. "In a way, it is a European navy, by the back door."

Julian Brazier, the British shadow shipping minister, said: "This is very worrying news. It seems the empire building ambitions of Brussels know no bounds. The drift towards an EU navy must be stopped." Mr Brazier has tabled a parliamentary question demanding to know the Government's position on the EU coastguard plans.

"The plan would be a betrayal of the maritime history of our country and the tens of thousands of men and women currently involved in our maritime sector," he said.

The commission document is written in French (of course) and entitled Préparer la Mobilité de Demain (Preparing Tomorrow's Mobility). In it, the commission says it believes the time has come to consider the "concept of a European coastguard". Such a body would improve passenger safety at sea and environmental protection legislation, it says.

Its main role initially would be to avert maritime pollution disasters, such as the oil slick that devastated French and Spanish Atlantic coasts in 2002, when the aged Prestige tanker snapped in half. The coastguard would be easy to implement, the commission notes, because the EU can "from today call on the support of the safety agencies", including EMSA.

The Lisbon-based agency came to life two years ago as a technical body to help the commission to draw up maritime legislation. But its remit and staffing levels have increased rapidly since then. It controls a small fleet of ships and has a staff of around 120 - more than twice the number originally envisaged.

The European parliament has long supported forming an EU coastguard, claiming that the principle of the coastguard is already accepted by all EU governments, including Britain. The Council of Ministers, the institution that represents governments in Brussels, last year agreed to a feasibility study on its creation. Until now, however, it has not been official EU policy.

Critics say a European coastguard would be more complicated to set up than a European army because national coastguards today have varying functions, both military and civil.

Willem de Ruiter, the executive director of EMSA, says talk of the agency becoming a fully-fledged coastguard was "far-fetched and unrealistic".

He said: "Many people don't understand what they mean when they say 'coastguard'. Are they talking about military operations or civil operations, or both?"

www.telegraph.co.uk . . .
 

#juan

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I see nothing wrong with it.

The member countries virtually all have a navy of sorts right now. Why wouldn't they combine their resources to have a stronger, and more efficient operation. Britain would no longer be able to brag about having the biggest navy in western Europe. Britain's objections are purely emotional.
 

Daz_Hockey

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Me neither actually

As long as it's correctly regulated, and it respects the wishes and sovreignty of each member country, I see nothing wrong with it
 

Daz_Hockey

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Thats right I have!!

Thats right I have!!

(sorry twice just to emphisize my point :lol: )

But to be honest, I cant see a problem with it, we've stayed out of the single currency, it's a patrol force, perhaps if we regulate it more, it'll stop more of these illegals