British warships head for the Middle East.

Mogz

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What navy?? A few leaky boats?? LOL

The government is sitting around with their thumbs up their butt while Canadians are dying over there. A very poor response. I have to agree with the criticizm from the families of the dead in Montreal. (Hmmmm, Quebec. I wonder if there is something in that?)

I never noticed this doozy. While small, the Canadian Navy is actually very well equipped. They are, without a doubt, the best off arm of the Canadian Forces. Our Halifax Class Guided Missile Frigates are superb, better than most Frigates our Allies put out (aside from the U.S. Oliver Hazard Perry Class). If you do a comparison between the British Type 22 and 23 Frigates and Halifax Class Frigates, it's no contest. A major problem with Royal Navy Frigates is their very LIMITED anti-air capability. They're armed with Seawolves, very short-range weapons. The Canadian Navy Frigates are armed with Evolved Sea Sparrows (ESSM) anti-air missiles. The seawolf has a range of 10km while the ESSM has a range of 60kms. The seawolf has a warhead of 14kg while the ESSM has a 40kg warhead. Lastly the seawolf cannot be used to target surface vessels, the ESSM can, thereby multiplying the effectivness of the host vessel. Even the Royal Navy's Type 42 Air Defence Destroyers are in a sub-class compared to the Canadian Iroquois Class. The Type 42 use Seadarts to defend task groups whilst the Iroquois Class use the MK41 VLS. The Seadart has a maximum range of 30 nautical miles while the MK41 VLS tops out at 125 nautical miles, making it easy for Iroquois Class to engage hostile air threats before they can launch against a Canadian surface task group. The United States, France, New Zealand, and Australia also make widespread use of the MK41 VLS. To deem the Canadian Navy as "leaky" is something of a misnomer. We have efficient and DEADLY warships, just not enough of them.
 

unclepercy

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Mogz said:
What navy?? A few leaky boats?? LOL

The government is sitting around with their thumbs up their butt while Canadians are dying over there. A very poor response. I have to agree with the criticizm from the families of the dead in Montreal. (Hmmmm, Quebec. I wonder if there is something in that?)

I never noticed this doozy. While small, the Canadian Navy is actually very well equipped. They are, without a doubt, the best off arm of the Canadian Forces. Our Halifax Class Guided Missile Frigates are superb, better than most Frigates our Allies put out (aside from the U.S. Oliver Hazard Perry Class). If you do a comparison between the British Type 22 and 23 Frigates and Halifax Class Frigates, it's no contest. A major problem with Royal Navy Frigates is their very LIMITED anti-air capability. They're armed with Seawolves, very short-range weapons. The Canadian Navy Frigates are armed with Evolved Sea Sparrows (ESSM) anti-air missiles. The seawolf has a range of 10km while the ESSM has a range of 60kms. The seawolf has a warhead of 14kg while the ESSM has a 40kg warhead. Lastly the seawolf cannot be used to target surface vessels, the ESSM can, thereby multiplying the effectivness of the host vessel. Even the Royal Navy's Type 42 Air Defence Destroyers are in a sub-class compared to the Canadian Iroquois Class. The Type 42 use Seadarts to defend task groups whilst the Iroquois Class use the MK41 VLS. The Seadart has a maximum range of 30 nautical miles while the MK41 VLS tops out at 125 nautical miles, making it easy for Iroquois Class to engage hostile air threats before they can launch against a Canadian surface task group. The United States, France, New Zealand, and Australia also make widespread use of the MK41 VLS. To deem the Canadian Navy as "leaky" is something of a misnomer. We have efficient and DEADLY warships, just not enough of them.

You made my point - thank you, "You're welcome." Still embarrassing.

Uncle
 

Mogz

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Embarrassing in YOUR opinion. The fact we sent any ships at all should mean something, especially when we deployed vessels we couldn't really spare.