Britain, Catalonia etc: People crave national identity

Blackleaf

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If the Royals in Spain can dig up an old dusty law then you can be sure the British Royals have the same kind of loophole they can use at the last minute. Letting it appear like it is a way to gain freedom would inspire others to try the same thing and the uprising would be deemed to be treason against the Crown so the rebels can be executed.
Running to Brussels is where the owners of the Royals live so one has to wonder if the Leader folded a bit too easy. It is no different that Lebanon having a Leader that runs to Saudi to take care of his billion dollar business as well using it as a hideout when he fails to get elected. Lebanon under Saudi control makes the offshore resources more or less an Israeli resource.

He's run to Brussels because it's the capital city of the EU. He's trying to get EU help for his cause.
 

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Minnesota: Gopher State
just looking

illegal referendum




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That's the same term used by the Soviets when Hungarian, Czechoslovakians, Poles, and the Baltics demanded their freedom.



Same with the Brits when the Yanks demanded their freedom.
 

Blackleaf

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Same with the Brits when the Yanks demanded their freedom.

There wasn't an American independence referendum. Had there been, the colonists would likely have voted against independence.

A referendum would have been democratic. The revolution wasn't.
 

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That's the same term used by the Soviets when Hungarian, Czechoslovakians, Poles, and the Baltics demanded their freedom.

So all referendums called are automatically free, fair, fully participatory and legal ?
Yeah, no.




Besides, your knowledge of history is so pathetic as to be disingenuous.

You can't possibly be that stupid, so you must be lying.

None of those states had a referendum to separate from anything.
 

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There wasn't an American independence referendum. Had there been, the colonists would likely have voted against independence.

A referendum would have been democratic. The revolution wasn't.

American Independence was voted for by the Second Continental Congress. They were a duly elected representative body. I doubt that the logistics to hold an actual referendum were even there at the time.
 

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American Independence was voted for by the Second Continental Congress. They were a duly elected representative body. I doubt that the logistics to hold an actual referendum were even there at the time.

That's why the Tories and Loyalists were expelled ... for the sake of unanimity.
 

Hoid

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That's why the Tories and Loyalists were expelled ... for the sake of unanimity.
The vote was unanimous with New York abstaining.

The American Revolution was not anarchy - it was pure politics. Not much different than the thing in Spain right now.
 

Curious Cdn

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The vote was unanimous with New York abstaining.

The American Revolution was not anarchy - it was pure politics. Not much different than the thing in Spain right now.

Well, after they got rid of the opposition (who headed North and formed a new country).