BREAKING: US National Security Advisor Resigns over Russian Involvement

[mentalfloss]

So the US doesn't have a national security adviser.

This is a stunningly ingenious strategy by the Trump administration to bring back national security and make America safe. :lol:


Trump’s pick to replace Flynn as national security adviser turns down job

Retired Vice Adm. Robert Harward has turned down President Donald Trump’s offer to become his new national security adviser, according to two people with knowledge of the decision.

Harward would have replaced Michael Flynn, who announced his resignation late Monday amid allegations that he discussed U.S. sanctions with a Russian official before Trump took office and then misrepresented the content of that conversation to Vice President Mike Pence and other administration officials.

One factor in Harward’s decision was he couldn’t get a guarantee that he could select his own staff, according to someone close to Trump with knowledge of the discussions.

Other officials said his decision was motivated by financial concerns about leaving his job at aerospace firm Lockheed Martin, where he now a senior executive, and the impact it would have on his family.

According to CNN, a friend of Harward’s said he rejected the job because of the seeming White House chaos. Harward called the offer a ‘s— sandwich,’ his friend told the network.

One senior U.S. official said that “family considerations changed his mind.” A friend of Harward’s added the former Navy SEAL was also not fully comfortable with the quickly moving process. All requested anonymity to discuss the sensitive matter.

https://www.google.ca/amp/news.nati...rity-adviser-turns-down-job/amp?client=safari

 

[mentalfloss]

Michael Flynn, General Chaos - The New Yorker

 

[Curious Cdn]

Well, ... have to put the New Yorker on the "fake news" list. It's getting so long that the only believable publication in the US, these days, is Rod and Gun.

 

[coldstream]

Michael Flynn, General Chaos - The New Yorker

All i could glean from this article is that Flynn was an innovative and unconventional thinker; was capable of geometric rather than linear analysis that predominates in the military bureaucracy; is a loyal, competent and effective officer (if somewhat abrasive) and was fired for the most trivial and casual of discussions which involved information gathering from the Russian ambassador which did NOT undermine or obligate American policy in any way.

Firing Flynn at the behest of the cruddy Liberal American press and NeoCon Republican establishment (like McCain, Ryan, Colin Powell.. and maybe Pense) was the biggest mistake Trump has made. He has to realize that nothing will satisfy his opponents except his ouster and he should be protecting and fostering relationships with friends and co-thinkers, like General Flynn, not appeasing his enemies.

It's no surprise that two of the best officers in the U.S. military special ops and intelligence services, Stanley McChrystal (mentioned in the article) and Michael Flynn respectively, were 'retired' by the Obama administration, for failing to tow the line on its disastrous policies.

The core of the competing world views is between the American imperial, Free Market, global paradigm of both the Neoliberal and Neoconservative Establishments and that of the sovereign, economically integral American nation state. These views are irreconcilable and trying to find some compromise won't work. It'll be one or the other and the former has had its way for 5 decades and is failing catastrophically.

 

[mentalfloss]

As Trump's security fiascos mount, Flynn's exit fails to bolster 'make America safe again' pledge - World - CBC News

 

[Angstrom]

More fake news.

 

[mentalfloss]

CBC is fake news now?

Does that make CNN fake news too?

 

[Mowich]

All i could glean from this article is that Flynn was an innovative and unconventional thinker; was capable of geometric rather than linear analysis that predominates in the military bureaucracy; is a loyal, competent and effective officer (if somewhat abrasive) and was fired for the most trivial and casual of discussions which involved information gathering from the Russian ambassador which did NOT undermine or obligate American policy in any way.

Firing Flynn at the behest of the cruddy Liberal American press and NeoCon Republican establishment (like McCain, Ryan, Colin Powell.. and maybe Pense) was the biggest mistake Trump has made. He has to realize that nothing will satisfy his opponents except his ouster and he should protecting and fostering relationships with friends and co-thinkers, like General Flynn, not appeasing his enemies. It's no surprise that two of the best officers in the U.S. military special ops and intelligence services, Stanley McChrystal (mentioned in the article) and Michael Flynn respectively, were 'retired' by the Obama administration, for failing to tow the line on their disastrous policies..

The core the competing world views is between the American imperial, Free Market, global paradigm of both the Neoliberal and Neoconserative Establishments and that of the sovereign, economically integral American nation state. These views are irreconcilable and trying to find some compromise won't work. It'll be one or the other, and the former has had its way for 5 decades and is failing catastrophically.

If all that is true, CS.........he should have known better than to lie to the VP..........doncha think?

More fake news.

You wish, you hope, you whine.............but you are still - as your hero The Donald would put it........'wrong, wrong, wrong'. LOL!

 

[coldstream]

If all that is true, CS.........he should have known better than to lie to the VP..........doncha think?

I'm not sure he lied. I think Pense might have taken a general statement that nothing of substance was discussed, or certainly agreed to, in what was largely a casual, non committal, informational discussion.. NOT a negotiation.. as an assertion that NOTHING was mentioned. You are giving far too much credit to American press reporting, Mowich. They are not to be trusted.

 

[mentalfloss]

He lied to Pence and Trump was aware of it.

That's why Pence is infuriated with Trump right now.

 

[Corduroy]

Oh, so THAT'S it. Pizza parlours, eh?

I'm amazed that the pizza thing hasn't gone away and that it's now expanded to include Mike Pence. Dan Bones and the Pizza Snifflers are so gullible, they'll believe anything. I shouldn't be surprised that after all this they're still suckers for it. At some point the lizard people, chemtrails, tinfoil hats and illuminati were just one story and like all conspiracy theories they expanded to include everything. We are witnessing the beginning of a grand theory future generations will use as shorthand to mock nutcases and easily fooled rubes.

Just how far does the rabbit hole go?

 

[mentalfloss]

Oh that just made me super hungry

 

[Curious Cdn]

I'm amazed that the pizza thing hasn't gone away and that it's now expanded to include Mike Pence. Dan Bones and the Pizza Snifflers are so gullible, they'll believe anything. I shouldn't be surprised that after all this they're still suckers for it. At some point the lizard people, chemtrails, tinfoil hats and illuminati were just one story and like all conspiracy theories they expanded to include everything. We are witnessing the beginning of a grand theory future generations will use as shorthand to mock nutcases and easily fooled rubes.

Just how far does the rabbit hole go?

I don't know for sure but the little hands, orange hair and complexion ... I wonder if we're dealing with something extraterrestrial? You'd think that they'd have done their homework a little better about the customs and mores of Humans, before they attempted anything like hijacking a Presidency.

We seek PEACEFUL CO-EXISTENCE!!

 

[MHz]

I'm amazed that the pizza thing hasn't gone away and that it's now expanded to include Mike Pence. Dan Bones and the Pizza Snifflers are so gullible, they'll believe anything. I shouldn't be surprised that after all this they're still suckers for it. At some point the lizard people, chemtrails, tinfoil hats and illuminati were just one story and like all conspiracy theories they expanded to include everything. We are witnessing the beginning of a grand theory future generations will use as shorthand to mock nutcases and easily fooled rubes.

Just how far does the rabbit hole go?

Shouldn't you include a warning to epileptics??
Try this one, easier to watch before blinking or vomiting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZtBITQHJ5g&t=97s

 

[Corduroy]

Oh that just made me super hungry

Well, now you're about to lose that appetite.

I don't know for sure but the little hands, orange hair and complexion ... I wonder if we're dealing with something extraterrestrial? You'd think that they'd have done their homework a little better about the customs and mores of Humans, before they attempted anything like hijacking a Presidency.

We seek PEACEFUL CO-EXISTENCE!!

We seek PIZZA CO-EXISTENCE!!

 

[mentalfloss]

Holy fukk, even the way he eats pizza is backwards

 

[Curious Cdn]

Holy fukk, even the way he eats pizza is backwards.

That makes him extra crusty.

 

[mentalfloss]

That's because he grabs it by the crust.

 

[Corduroy]

Holy fukk, even the way he eats pizza is backwards

Pretty sure that's an unamerican activity.

 

[Curious Cdn]

Holy fukk, even the way he eats pizza is backwards

He looks like a caterpillar eating it's way through a leaf in a Nature program.