Bob Rae

Hank C

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#juan said:
If the Liberals elected Bob Rae as leader, they would be in about the same position as the PCs in the first election after Bulroney stepped down...........Nowhere...

no doubt, electing a leader who has no chance of popularity in your largest bastion of support (Ontario) would seem a pretty foolish move....
 

Hank C

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Looks like the Conservatives are holding:

OTTAWA (CP) - A new poll suggests Tory support is as strong as it was in the Jan. 23 election, despite the political furor over Stephen Harper's cabinet choices.

The Decima poll, conducted March 9-13, suggests the Conservatives had the support of 37 per cent of decided voters, up slightly from the 36 per cent of the vote they won on election day. The Liberals had the support of 28 per cent, down from 30 per cent on election night.

The New Democrats were up to 19 per cent after taking 18 per cent of the January vote, and the Bloc Quebecois had 10 per cent, down from 11 per cent.

"In this week's poll, the Conservatives have more support than the Liberals in every part of the country except for Ontario, where they trail by only three percentage points," said Bruce Anderson, Decima's chief executive officer.

Harper has come under some sharp political criticism for a couple of controversial cabinet appointments.

David Emerson changed parties to join the Tory cabinet just two weeks after being elected as a Liberal. And Michael Fortier, who didn't run in the election, accepted a Senate appointment to take the public works portfolio.

But that does not seem to have shaken public support.

"While not enjoying an extraordinary honeymoon, the Conservatives are certainly not losing ground in their early weeks in office," Anderson said.

He also said the Tories seem to be gaining ground among younger people and women "as anxiety about the social policy agenda may be dissipating."

The poll was conducted as part of Decima's national omnibus telephone survey. It was based on a sample of 1,012 people and is considered accurate to within 3.1 percentage points 19 times in 20.

©The Canadian Press, 2006
 

Finder

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I personally have mixed feeligns about Bob Rae.... I come from Ontario so I lived under his government, I'm also a Member of the Ontario NDP and the Fed NDP. Though Bob Rae has made it clear in the last few years that he is indeed a Social Democrat still I still don't think he is reliable as a leader. He has changed his views on many issues many times back and forth and I have no idea how he bases these dessions on.

Also as many of us on the left right and centre know and why many of us don't like him, is he started off as a socialist in Ontario and ended as a neo-conservastive, even at one point supporting Mike Harris's cuts after Bob Rae and the Ontario NDP got decimated at the polls. Bob Rae has moved from being a socialist, to a neo con, to a social democrat, to a liberal social democrat. He doesn't know where he stands, how would he run Canada? One year perhaps has a socialist the next the unions are being forced into deals and we are all taking unpaid rae days.

Though I think he has made many bitter enemies on the left right and centre I think we also tend to be a little over critical of him. He ran Ontario during the deepist darkist days of the ression in times of increasing unemployment and times of hard economic times where he just couldn't be a socialist, neo-con or a liberal all the time. I think he has taken a hard beating from all of us pretty well. I think Bob Rae's biggest foe isn't the Neo-cons in Ontario, but those of the Ontario NDP who cringe at how his policies almost destoryed a strong Ontario NDP party. If he becomes the leader of the NDP he will have to work hard on fixing his image in Ontario, I do not think it is immpossible to do for I think he could do it. But if he fails the Liberal party could lose all of Ontario to the NDP and the Conservatives which would be a death blow to the Liberal party and perhaps give the conservatives a magority or even the NDP official oppistion status.


Well thats my two cents.

Paradox, Belinda!!! why don't you just hand the Conservatives the next election. lol
 

Finder

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Well
1. Belinda is extremely new and cocky to politics.
2. She crossed the floor in less then a year of being elected
3. She a billionairess and has the interests of the the economic hard right of the liberal party in interest. Another problem with this is that she could not work well with the left wing of the party which still has alot of sway.

Well more less I don't like anyone who is going for leadership right now. I do however think Bob Rae could make a good leader but I'd have to say he would have a extremly difficult time in Ontario unless he was able to reaccess his image. Because in Ontario both the left and the right don't like him very much.