Black Police officer punches BLM supporter 😂😂

Ron in Regina

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This Jim Rogers arrest/Tazering/death sounds like a shit show from the little tiny bit I’ve read about it so far, & five of the eight police officers have been fired and it doesn’t sound like anybody’s being charged. That’s a separate incident than the protest though.

Just from the story in the opening post it sounds like the woman who got punched got physically between the officer and the person he was arresting. Whether she deserved a punch in the face or to have one of the other many officers stepped in and arrest her also I can’t say because I haven’t seen video and I’m only working from the story in the opening post.

With it being a black Officier punching a black protestor….I’m assuming it won’t be called white privilege, but who knows? Sounds like she was legitimately physically interfering in an arrest, but lots of things sound like that until you see contradictory video….so I’m waiting on more info before I wade in any further.
 

Ron in Regina

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Found non-age restricted video of this incident here:
Not much sympathy for this woman now. Call me jaded but I tend not to trust statements for either side anymore until I see the video…& there’s almost always video now.

(No video would be suspicious in itself)
 
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This Jim Rogers arrest/Tazering/death sounds like a shit show from the little tiny bit I’ve read about it so far, & five of the eight police officers have been fired and it doesn’t sound like anybody’s being charged. That’s a separate incident than the protest though.

Just from the story in the opening post it sounds like the woman who got punched got physically between the officer and the person he was arresting. Whether she deserved a punch in the face or to have one of the other many officers stepped in and arrest her also I can’t say because I haven’t seen video and I’m only working from the story in the opening post.

With it being a black Officier punching a black protestor….I’m assuming it won’t be called white privilege, but who knows? Sounds like she was legitimately physically interfering in an arrest, but lots of things sound like that until you see contradictory video….so I’m waiting on more info before I wade in any further.
We call it blue privilege. There's lots of material down hereabouts about the line Black cops have to walk (and sometimes fall off of) to get on in police culture.
 
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Ron in Regina

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Here’s what the protest was about:

Rogers, a 54-year-old homeless man, was tased at least eight times within three minutes and 15 seconds the morning of Oct. 13 after police were called to Harriet Street in Bloomfield for a report of a bicycle that has possibly been stolen.

The same summary that named the officers indicated that Rogers pleaded for help in the backseat of a police vehicle for 17 minutes. He was eventually taken to UPMC Mercy, but was unresponsive upon arrival. He died the following day. The Allegheny County Medical Examiner’s Office ultimately ruled Rogers’ death an accident caused by a lack of oxygen to his brain.


Five Pittsburgh police officers who were fired after an internal investigation into the death of Jim Rogers following his arrest last year have appealed their terminations, a union official said Friday.

Three other officers who were named in the executive summary of the internal report but not fired also will appeal the discipline handed down to them as well, said Robert Swartzwelder, president of the Fraternal Order of Police union representing Pittsburgh officers.

City and police officials have not named the five officers who were terminated, nor have they named the three who remain employed. Officials have said that naming the officers would violate their Garrity Rights, which protect public employees from self-incrimination.

The official appeals likely came earlier this week, as officers had 14 days from the date of the discipline to file their appeals. City officials announced the terminations and discipline March 23 in a brief press conference.

Officials during the briefing did not say what discipline the three officers who were not terminated would face, but a city councilwoman told the Tribune-Review that they would undergo retraining, though she did not know what that entailed.

Nine officers were named in the executive summaryof the internal police Critical Incident Review Board report obtained by the Tribune-Review in December. One, Lt. Matthew Gauntner, retired in early December.


The Allegheny County Medical Examiner’s Office said Monday that a homeless man who died a day after being tased repeatedly by Pittsburgh police died as a result of a lack of oxygen to his brain.

Medical Examiner Karl Williams’ office said the manner of death is accidental.

Jim Rogers was tased at least eight times by Pittsburgh police the morning of Oct. 13 on Harriet Street in Bloomfield after a neighbor reported seeing someone take a bike from a front yard.

So NINE officers present, and one homeless guy tazered at least eight times? These nine armed officers where in fear for their lives & back-up was too slow in arriving??? NINE committed twelve year olds could take down one guy…seriously.

Dr. Cyril Wecht, a forensic pathologist who previously served as coroner and medical examiner in Allegheny County, called the finding for manner of death inadequate.

“How can it be an accident? All this time, and that’s what they come up with?” Wecht asked.

In Pennsylvania, there are five recognized manners of death: homicide, suicide, accident, natural and undetermined.

Accident is defined as a death that occurs as the result of an event with unintentional consequences. Homicide is a death caused at the hands of another.

The cause of death — acute global hypoxic ischemic injury of the brain — simply means diminished oxygen and blood supply getting to the brain, Wecht said.

“Does it say what it’s due to? It’s due to the tasering,” Wecht said. “How in the hell is it accidental? How do you call it accidental to tase someone eight or 10 times?”

University of Pittsburgh law professor David A. Harris said that the manner of death could be contested and challenged.

But still, the medical examiner’s findings do not preclude criminal charges from being filed, including, for example, the charge of reckless endangerment.

In addition, Harris said involuntary manslaughter could still apply.

Under Pennsylvania law, “a person is guilty of involuntary manslaughter when as a direct result of the doing of an unlawful act in a reckless or grossly negligent manner, or the doing of a lawful act in a reckless or grossly negligent manner, he causes the death of another person.”

Involuntary manslaughter does not require an intentional killing, Harris said.

“Is there a link between the actions — or in the case of a police officer — of failing to act?” he said. “There’s going to be a substantial question of causation. The finding of accidental death by a medical examiner does not have the same effect as saying no one has done anything wrong.”
 
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