Best for America..Obama or McCain?

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Man I must of hit a nerve.

o.k. now take it easy. I'm slowly backing out of your little world.

Now don't be stalking me, I am here to have fun not a flame war.


It’s a thankless job, but I’ve got a lot of Karma to burn off.
I’m really easy to get along with, once you people learn to worship me.:lol:
 

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I've heard people say it's hard to live anywhere else after living in Texas. Must be pretty nice down there.

Oh God it is. Climate, standard of living, Gulf of Mexico was on 3 hours drive, food, fishing, camping.

My rent was $575 for a 2 bdrm, washer/dryer, dishwasher, microwave, central air, fireplace, upstairs condo everything included.

In Canada (Alberta) $1100 for nothing 2bdrm and nothing else (**** hole).



Returned to Canada to work in the Oil Patch, you know BIG Money. $325/per 10 hour shift 7 days a week.

Living in trailer, away from family for 3 to 5 weeks on a Gas Rig (TrailBlazer) at a time just was not for me.

Now I am just a truck driver, and yes I see plenty of roads that could do with some fixing. (at least if my back had anything to say about it) :lol:

At least I still have my DirecTV up here, or I would have gone insane.
 
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Oh God it is. Climate, standard of living, Gulf of Mexico was on 3 hours drive, food, fishing, camping.

My rent was $575 for a 2 bdrm, washer/dryer, dishwasher, microwave, central air, fireplace, upstairs condo everything included.

In Canada $1100 for nothing.



Returned to Canada to work in the Oil Patch, you know BIG Money. $325/per 10 hour shift 7 days a week.

Living in trailer, away from family for 3 to 5 weeks on a Gas Rig (TrailBlazer) at a time just was not for me.

Now I am just a truck driver, and yes I see plenty of roads that could do with some fixing. (at least if my back had anything to say about it) :lol:

At least I still have my DirecTV up here, or I would have gone insane.
So you'tre still in Alberta? If so do you plan to go back to Texas?
 

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/08/palin-makes-her-first-gaf_n_124792.html

Gov. Sarah Palin made her first potentially major gaffe during her time on the national scene while discussing the developments of the perilous housing market this past weekend.
Speaking before voters in Colorado Springs, the Republican vice presidential nominee claimed that lending giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had "gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers." The companies, as McClatchy reported, "aren't taxpayer funded but operate as private companies. The takeover may result in a taxpayer bailout during reorganization."

Economists and analysts pounced on the misstatement, which came before the government had spent funds bailing the two entities out, saying it demonstrated a lack of understanding about one of the key economic issues likely to face the next administration.
"You would like to think that someone who is going to be vice president and conceivable president would know what Fannie and Freddie do," said Dean Baker, co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research. "These are huge institutions and they are absolutely central to our country's mortgage debt. To not have a clue what they do doesn't speak well for her, I'd say."
Added Andrew Jakabovics, an economic analyst for the progressive think tank, Center for American Progress: "It is somewhat nonsensical because up until yesterday there was sort of no public funding there. Even today they haven't drawn down any of the credit line they have given to Treasury. 'Gotten too big and too expensive' are two separate things. The too big has been a conservative mantra for a while and there is something to be said of that in that they hold about half of the mortgage guarantees that are out there. And in the last year they have been responsible for roughly 80 percent out there. The 'too expensive to tax payers,' I don't know where that comes from."
Even conservative analysts acknowledged that the statement simply did not hold true.
"Heretofore, if the treasury had a balance sheet there would have been a liability but there was never a taxpayer payment before [the bailout]," said Gerald P. O'Driscoll, an economist with the Cato Institute. "[Fannie and Freddie] were not taxpayer funded. They had taxpayer guarantee, which is worth something, especially in the stock market..."
The Palin misstatement comes as Fannie and Freddie are set to be placed under control of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, created by President Bush in late July to help regulate the two housing giants. Both presidential candidates have been critical of Fannie and Freddie but neither is opposed to the government's plans for the companies. The treasury is hoping that the government's role will help stabilize credit markets and incentive more mortgage lending.
"With the takeover they will be taxpayer funded," said O'Driscoll. "As I understand it they get to withdraw funds with permission going forward."
How politically significant a "gaffe" it is remains to be seen. The major concern about Palin's position on the ticket is that she lacks the economic and foreign policy wherewithal to serve as vice president. This certainly doesn't help on that front. At the same time, the remark went almost entirely unnoticed over the weekend and discussions on the developments of the housing market can be difficult to process for even the most attuned voter.
There are varying explanations that could be offered for Palin's defense. As O'Driscoll noted, both Fannie and Freddie "were hybrid institutions because they had private ownership but... an implicit government guarantee which people thought at the end of the day was explicit." Meanwhile, as Baker noted, as of July the two lenders were being offered low market interest rates by the fed again, theoretically, at the taxpayer's expense. But, he added, "I kind of doubt she had any sense of that."
 

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Palin: What exactly does the VP do everyday?

Palin: If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me and I'll fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance.

Besides running with McCareer Ender?
 

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Palin: What exactly does the VP do everyday?

Palin: If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me and I'll fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance.

Besides running with McCareer Ender?
The McCracken Phallus ticket?
 

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Palin: What exactly does the VP do everyday?

Palin: If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me and I'll fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance.

Besides running with McCareer Ender?

Well quandary, what does a VP do every day??? You seem to be so judgemental, enlighten us?

Now, if Obama is tough on terror, why do all of the terrorists want him in office? Along with Obama's terrorist connection to the Weather Underground and his racist religious mentors spewing hate speech toward America, here's news footage where Hamas Terrorist network went public with more of their propaganda supporting Barack Obama. Of course they all want him to withdraw American troops from Middle East Iraq, because they don't want anyone standing in the way of their terrorism ... World War 3... their End Time Holy War.

 

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quandary121 - guess you don't know either, or you are on Google trying to find out. :)


I see you’ve set aside this special time to humiliate yourself in public.I don’t know what your problem is, but I’ll bet it’s hard to pronounce.You are validating my inherent mistrust of strangers.I’m already visualizing the duct tape over your mouth.I’m not being rude. You’re just insignificant.
 

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http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/04/14/kerry_faces_questions_over_purple_heart/

Compare that behaviour to John McCain......who refused to be released from the Hanoi Hilton ahead of his comrades, and endured years of torture for his heroism........

No comparison.


So because Kerry didn't crash a plane and got captured he is less of a hero than McCain?

Not getting fatally shot somehow negates someones heroism?

Once again, someones word against another, not fact.:spam1:

Also, what does any of this have to do with being president?:scratch:
 

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Well quandary, what does a VP do every day??? You seem to be so judgemental, enlighten us?

Now, if Obama is tough on terror, why do all of the terrorists want him in office? Along with Obama's terrorist connection to the Weather Underground and his racist religious mentors spewing hate speech toward America, here's news footage where Hamas Terrorist network went public with more of their propaganda supporting Barack Obama. Of course they all want him to withdraw American troops from Middle East Iraq, because they don't want anyone standing in the way of their terrorism ... World War 3... their End Time Holy War.


In Dick Cheney's case he tells George what to do.:lol:
 

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in politics there are no new ideas, and when a politician speaks people expect them to lie, except for the niave.

once upon a time there used to be a difference between Democrat and Republican these days no difference.

so i guess it doesnt matter who you vote for both candidates are going to screw you over

Obama's ideas really suck.

He's now reduced his entire campaign to "I'm not Bush."

Raising taxes isn't cool, especially on U.S. corporations.

Signing the FISA bill to allow telecoms off the hook for eavesdropping on our conversations wasn't cool. That totally sucked, especially after he promised he would filibuster the bill.

Being the first candidate to reject public financing after he said he would take it wasn't cool.

Picking life long D.C. insider Joe Biden as a VP was WAY uncool. Biden's son, Hunter Biden, is a big shot Washington lobbyist who used to be an exec at MBNA credit card company, and who now lobbies the federal government for money for his pharmaceutical clients.

His goal to get rid of all U.S. nuclear weapons isn't cool.

His goal to cut back spending on advanced weapons isn't cool.

His goal to not have any U.S. weapons in space isn't cool since China is already doing it.

His plan to not drill for any oil offshore or in Alaska is WAY not cool since gas here is $3.50 a gallon.

His plan to take our tax money and put it into a government Venture Cap fund to invest with his buddies' alternative energy companies isnt' cool.

His plan to keep tariffs on imported sugar can so we are forced to use Iowa corn for ethanol is so not cool it's not even funny.

Obama's plan to reduce crime? I don't know. This "issue" is totally missing from his website.

Obama's plan to dump $50 billion a year into Africa to fight poverty when we have 37 million people in the U.S. living in poverty isn't cool either.

Come to think of it, I'm not sure any of Obama's plans are cool.

I am not 100% sure where Obama stands on many issues other than gun control and abortion which he has stated and is on the record for. Biden on the other hand is a known Internationalist and promoter of a "New World Order" (this is their words not mine). Below are some cut & paste comments on the issue:

By his own words and actions over the decades that he is for a one world government: a one world banking system, one world religion (new age), one military force, world regional government. Joseph Biden by his own words and actions has been a participant in bringing these United States of America into a one world order

I'll sum it up for you.

Obama's ideals = socialism; Marxism; incompatible with Democracy and free trade; gambling with science on renewable energy sources while shunning fuels we can use now like nuclear and oil; supports partial birth abortion; nationalization of health care = horrible idea; taking only those over $250,000? Look what Clinton did - taxed households making > $30,000; wants to give amnesty and path to citizenship for illegal immigrants; Obama's campaign has already tried to limit free speech once on a large scale, will most likely start this in office by re-introducing the Fairness Doctrine; has openly admitted he doesn't trust "whites" and has stated "whites will do you wrong" - making same blanket statements that white people have been guilty of for decades;

So no, not cool at all.

THE THRESHOLD OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER: THE WILSONIAN VISION AND
AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY IN THE 1990'S AND BEYOND (Senate - June 29,
1992)

devvy.net...

Also,

Biden is in support of General and Complete Disarmament - Public Law 87-297. P.L.87-297, a (so-called) "law" isn't just for nuclear disarmament. It is for general and complete disarmament of our nation and all citizens, and giving our armed forces to the United Nations on a permanent basis. No nation ever did, nor ever can, retain its freedom and liberty once it gives up its armed forces, and armed citizenry.
 

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in politics there are no new ideas, and when a politician speaks people expect them to lie, except for the niave.

once upon a time there used to be a difference between Democrat and Republican these days no difference.

so i guess it doesnt matter who you vote for both candidates are going to screw you over

Obama's ideas really suck.

He's now reduced his entire campaign to "I'm not Bush."

Raising taxes isn't cool, especially on U.S. corporations.

Signing the FISA bill to allow telecoms off the hook for eavesdropping on our conversations wasn't cool. That totally sucked, especially after he promised he would filibuster the bill.

Being the first candidate to reject public financing after he said he would take it wasn't cool.

Picking life long D.C. insider Joe Biden as a VP was WAY uncool. Biden's son, Hunter Biden, is a big shot Washington lobbyist who used to be an exec at MBNA credit card company, and who now lobbies the federal government for money for his pharmaceutical clients.

His goal to get rid of all U.S. nuclear weapons isn't cool.

His goal to cut back spending on advanced weapons isn't cool.

His goal to not have any U.S. weapons in space isn't cool since China is already doing it.

His plan to not drill for any oil offshore or in Alaska is WAY not cool since gas here is $3.50 a gallon.

His plan to take our tax money and put it into a government Venture Cap fund to invest with his buddies' alternative energy companies isnt' cool.

His plan to keep tariffs on imported sugar can so we are forced to use Iowa corn for ethanol is so not cool it's not even funny.

Obama's plan to reduce crime? I don't know. This "issue" is totally missing from his website.

Obama's plan to dump $50 billion a year into Africa to fight poverty when we have 37 million people in the U.S. living in poverty isn't cool either.

Come to think of it, I'm not sure any of Obama's plans are cool.

I am not 100% sure where Obama stands on many issues other than gun control and abortion which he has stated and is on the record for. Biden on the other hand is a known Internationalist and promoter of a "New World Order" (this is their words not mine). Below are some cut & paste comments on the issue:

By his own words and actions over the decades that he is for a one world government: a one world banking system, one world religion (new age), one military force, world regional government. Joseph Biden by his own words and actions has been a participant in bringing these United States of America into a one world order

I'll sum it up for you.

Obama's ideals = socialism; Marxism; incompatible with Democracy and free trade; gambling with science on renewable energy sources while shunning fuels we can use now like nuclear and oil; supports partial birth abortion; nationalization of health care = horrible idea; taking only those over $250,000? Look what Clinton did - taxed households making > $30,000; wants to give amnesty and path to citizenship for illegal immigrants; Obama's campaign has already tried to limit free speech once on a large scale, will most likely start this in office by re-introducing the Fairness Doctrine; has openly admitted he doesn't trust "whites" and has stated "whites will do you wrong" - making same blanket statements that white people have been guilty of for decades;

So no, not cool at all.

THE THRESHOLD OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER: THE WILSONIAN VISION AND
AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY IN THE 1990'S AND BEYOND (Senate - June 29,
1992)

devvy.net...

Also,

Biden is in support of General and Complete Disarmament - Public Law 87-297. P.L.87-297, a (so-called) "law" isn't just for nuclear disarmament. It is for general and complete disarmament of our nation and all citizens, and giving our armed forces to the United Nations on a permanent basis. No nation ever did, nor ever can, retain its freedom and liberty once it gives up its armed forces, and armed citizenry.

WTF?? Your wife beat some sense into you since your last post... :lol: :lol:
 

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Look here ****tard do you want to make this personal .????
or have you run out of cocks to suck.

Oh come on now...

Hold on, cock sucking. **** you're not trying to hit on me now..



p.s. it's the internet, don't take everything so dam serious.. relax take a percocet. ;-)

btw, the video will piss off alot of Yanks, so do expect some barbs about the U.K. from everyone.
 
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