Being Poor is NOT a Crime
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this topic reminds me of the Ralph Klein incident a few years back. Klien, the premier of Alberta, walked into a homeless shelter after having a few too many drinks and told the occupants to get off their lazy backsides and get jobs.
LOL Said1 so very true.
Why do the politicians make lip service regarding the issue of Homelessness but they don't address the issues. We had an elderly women in NS who was suffering from dementia and Parkensons desease, she was prone to violence. The NS Mental Hospital booted her out because they said they couldn't control her, Community Services put her in an apartment which she tried to burn down. Fast forward a year and this woman his homeless and she commits petty crimes to get arrested so she has a place to sleep. She recently came before the courts and the Judge ordered this woman into the care of the Minister for Community Services, the police took her to their offices and waited while she got processed. It took a Judicial order to force the Reigning Government Agency to help her, all those envolved pointed fingers at each other but simply they couldn't be bothered to help this woman. It's insane that the Mental Health Department refused to help those who are violent and Community Services shoved her frail and aging body into the worst part of Dartmouth and forgot her existance. How many more like her are living on the streets? All levels of Government should be ashamed of what is happening to the Mentally Ill, they deserve to be treated like the Human Beings they are-- not like trash to be kicked aside. Shameful.
Why do the politicians make lip service regarding the issue of Homelessness but they don't address the issues. We had an elderly women in NS who was suffering from dementia and Parkensons desease, she was prone to violence. The NS Mental Hospital booted her out because they said they couldn't control her, Community Services put her in an apartment which she tried to burn down. Fast forward a year and this woman his homeless and she commits petty crimes to get arrested so she has a place to sleep. She recently came before the courts and the Judge ordered this woman into the care of the Minister for Community Services, the police took her to their offices and waited while she got processed. It took a Judicial order to force the Reigning Government Agency to help her, all those envolved pointed fingers at each other but simply they couldn't be bothered to help this woman. It's insane that the Mental Health Department refused to help those who are violent and Community Services shoved her frail and aging body into the worst part of Dartmouth and forgot her existance. How many more like her are living on the streets? All levels of Government should be ashamed of what is happening to the Mentally Ill, they deserve to be treated like the Human Beings they are-- not like trash to be kicked aside. Shameful.
Passing the buck. If this a skill you haven't been blessed with, don't count on any type of government job, municiple and otherwise. It's just the way it works. People need to help people, NOT institutions. The people who run them don't know ****e.
The apathy of the people hired to protect the Mentally Ill makes me angry, it's their job to help these people that fact the Judge had to "order" the Minister of Community Services (Mental health falls under this heading) to help this woman boggles my mind. Why pay to have this bloated organization in place if all they do is pass the buck and play lets do paper work. Yea I couldn't work within these organizations Said1, I'm to proactive.
--the prophet of Gopher
Oh go dust off your robes and get back in that hole, the PROPHET OF GOPHER, you are so holier than thou l am surprised you can type your name...well actually it isn't your name...that proves my point!!!
And on judgement day, Christ will recognized that you were decieved by Mohammad and will forgive you, so don't be afraid...you will be forgiven.
here in ONTARI-ARI-ARI-OOOH, There are enough beds, and there is enough food. The people on the streets are those who have got kicked out of the shelters. Most of the time it is because they haven't taken meds...schitzoprentics are one group of the mentally ill that end up on the streets, basically because of the nature of the disease includes delusion and paranoia.
The salvation army will give anyone food, the problem is that some people can't pick it up. Still if you have children they will try to drop off things. Our country is actually really really good for social assistance. The people on the streets are very difficult to help because they resist assistance.
I gave a toothless woman a banna and some water one day, and she was so grateful, but she was also panhandling and stopping traffic, l understand that panhandling is actually very lucrative during rush hour traffic. The money goes straight to drugs, and booze.
The salvation army will give anyone food, the problem is that some people can't pick it up. Still if you have children they will try to drop off things. Our country is actually really really good for social assistance. The people on the streets are very difficult to help because they resist assistance.
I gave a toothless woman a banna and some water one day, and she was so grateful, but she was also panhandling and stopping traffic, l understand that panhandling is actually very lucrative during rush hour traffic. The money goes straight to drugs, and booze.
The problem in the states is that crimanals take up the beds of the insane. I have a dear friend that works in the system and is taken aback by the way the system has been twisted. I personally have been "a street person" twice in my life and in a "facility 4 times in my life. The people on the street treated me with more care than the "inservice" I recieved at that time. Im just lucky I found the right docs since Ive been in VA or Id definately would be homeless.
Good for you! Maybe you might consider writing about your experience as in a magazine article, a letter to the newspaper or a book. If people can walk a day in your shoes, through what you have experienced, then the situation might be acknowledged, and once it is acknowledged it can be changed so more people don't have to experience what you have.
I have a relative who has suffered, and fortunatly the support and alertness of family saved their homeless situation. Now this person is living by themselves and doing very, very well. Sometimes it takes a village...
I have a relative who has suffered, and fortunatly the support and alertness of family saved their homeless situation. Now this person is living by themselves and doing very, very well. Sometimes it takes a village...
I live alone too. I think its really important not to have to much stimulus. Thats why I rely on the web. I can turn it off. As for the writing? I have 2 childrens books written and a life journal started. I need a fantact painter for the childrens books.
Great idea! Thank you! I live 90 mins away from Norfork and newport news. Next full tank I'll do it in person.
Self maybe you can submit a portion of it on line? Everyone but me has a website these days? Food for thought?
Try this forum. There is all sorts of info, tips etc. Everything from submitting work to getting work.
http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/
http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/
Ahh! I've seen this posted on many forums I go to. -_- religious stuff. Anyways, if you guys want to get rid of your homeless people send them to Utah the mormon church will or used to take them in and pay them to beg for food and money. I'm being serious about that too. What can you do about those who want to remain homeless there isn't really much you can do. All in all it's their choice (except in some cases) if they want to be homeless or not. It's illegal to give them food or money in Utah even those who are actually homeless and not the ones that the church pay to act homeless.
*sighs* that was long, but what do people expect to happen waste the hard earned taxpayers money to build homes and supply them food and clothing while they don't have to do anything and live for free. They can easily get a job like anyone else it's just they choose not to and if they do they don't spend their money on stuff to help them out but on stuff they don't need.
*sighs* that was long, but what do people expect to happen waste the hard earned taxpayers money to build homes and supply them food and clothing while they don't have to do anything and live for free. They can easily get a job like anyone else it's just they choose not to and if they do they don't spend their money on stuff to help them out but on stuff they don't need.
How easy the solution is for you! How can they "easily" get a job like anyone else? Once in that vicious cycle of poverty and despair, how do they pull themselves free?
And yes, why not spend taxpayers money to help people who need help? What the hell else should you expect public funds to go to if not to help members of the public?
Sometimes, all they need is a nudge to get them back on track, so why not supply the nudge?
Of course, they deserve help. But they also have to accept some responsibility. The two key precursors of poverty are obvious- quitting school early and starting a family without benefit of reliable employment and, in many cases, a stable partner. Kids know that. They have to be reminded forcefully that poverty is often a choice less than it is a condition.