Barbarian/nazi IDF shoot unarmed peaceful protestors

gopher

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I'm surprised none of the pro Israel crowd has criticized or insulted you. But watch - it'll likely come real soon. Then after they bait you into using naughty words, they will complain and have you banned.
 

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Interesting footage.

Fist off not that you will believe me, but others here will, because they know the truth of these situations. I hope they will come and back me up here.

Now, the title of the piece is interesting to say the least. Inflamatory would be more appropriate. I did not see one protester downed by the so called shooting.

The reason for that you may ask if you are interested in the truth?

If you look carefully, and many times you can see it quite clearly, you will not electrical tape on the magazines. In this case it is red. Now this could mean hot rounds in the CDN Army, but it veries from Army to Army. But between the tape and the lack of bodies and blood everywhere. I would hazard a professional opinion that these are rubber rounds, hence the clear marked tape on the magazines, so as not to confuse them with other types of packs.

But I know that this is not true and what ever you publish is the absolute fact. So keep the propoganda coming and we'll let the people decide for themselves. Thank gawd I'm here to balance this tripe out though.
 
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yep--your concern for arab humans will get you labelled antisemitic
wait for it. But in reality these are soldiers--and although soldiers are human --no matter what flag they wear --they are all scum--or play the part real well--lest we remember.
 

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Interesting footage.

Fist off not that you will believe me, but others here will, because they know the truth of these situations. I hope they will come and back me up here.

Now, the title of the piece is interesting to say the least. Inflamatory would be more appropriate. I did not see one protester downed by the so called shooting.

The reason for that you may ask if you are interested in the truth?

If you look carefully, and many times you can see it quite clearly, you will not electrical tape on the magazines. In this case it is red. Now this could mean hot rounds in the CDN Army, but it veries from Army to Army. But between the tape and the lack of bodies and blood everywhere. I would hazard a professional opinion that these are rubber rounds, hence the clear marked tape on the magazines, so as not to confuse them with other types of packs.

But I know that this is not true and what ever you publish is the absolute fact. So keep the propoganda coming and we'll let the people decide for themselves. Thank gawd I'm here to balance this tripe out though.



What in the hell are you talking about?? trying to excuses idf??


here is some others footage from your great brave hero.


http://youtube.com/verify_age?next_url=/watch?v=5dDSGq68yPU


http://youtube.com/watch?v=BLWstFAm-e4&mode=related&search=

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8DTBVNTt3Ic&mode=related&search=
 

Logic 7

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yep--your concern for arab humans will get you labelled antisemitic
wait for it. But in reality these are soldiers--and although soldiers are human --no matter what flag they wear --they are all scum--or play the part real well--lest we remember.



I was being labelled as anti-semitic the other day , because i said, palestinians were human being, crazy isnt??
 

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nice cortex, real nice.


I agree that the IDF should have done whatever they couyld to avoid hurting these women, but they should not shoulder all the blame. The Hamas officials who exhorted women to go out and create human shields around these militants are to be blamed as well. Urban Guerilla operations always take place among large amounts of civilians, so that when the other side retaliates, they are guaranteed to kill innocents. This gains the guerilla side PR and new recuits... Make no mistake, Hamas wanted these women dead. This will gain them more recruits ( and public sympathy) than a million speeches.

Let's look at this with a minimum ov bias, so it doesn't turn into us picking the Jew side or the Arab side...
 

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What I'm talking about is that no one is being killed, the IDF is obviouly using rubber bullets.

You and the rest of your ilk will always miss the point of what people are saying, because you have no concept that there is another side. I do not condone the IDF commiting crimes either. I have never claimed the IDf were my heros either, so would you care to provide some proof they are or just continue to talk out your a$$?

Further more, the title of this thread is proof you are not only anti semitic, but quite oblivious as well. I think that's the first time I have ever called someone anti semitic too. Well aren't you just special.
 

CDNBear

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I'm only going to post one link. It's more then enough to prove my point.

There is death and destruction on both sides, there is guilt on both sides. I don't deny that. You do. That is what makes you a bigot and an anti semite logic.

 

Logic 7

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What I'm talking about is that no one is being killed, the IDF is obviouly using rubber bullets.

You and the rest of your ilk will always miss the point of what people are saying, because you have no concept that there is another side. I do not condone the IDF commiting crimes either. I have never claimed the IDf were my heros either, so would you care to provide some proof they are or just continue to talk out your a$$?

Further more, the title of this thread is proof you are not only anti semitic, but quite oblivious as well. I think that's the first time I have ever called someone anti semitic too. Well aren't you just special.


IDF is obviously using robber bullets??? where and how and more importantly how do you know that? no one is being killed, but some are being hit and hurt, are you blind??, why when an israeli got only hurt, the whole world is shaking?? if this would have happen to any israeli, the whole world would know it, and destruction like in lebanon would have happened again.

DO you know what means anti-semitic?? it is not someone who criticized governement policy, which are oppressing human rights on daily basis
 

Logic 7

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I'm only going to post one link. It's more then enough to prove my point.

There is death and destruction on both sides, there is guilt on both sides. I don't deny that. You do. That is what makes you a bigot and an anti semite logic.



I can't see the video now, but i will tonight. Yes there is guilt on both sides, but the fact is simple,it is israel who gives palestinians life a hell,not like the nazi did to the jews, but very very similar, you can say whatever you want,but the fact remain that you can't blame oppressed peoples in that situation, but those who oppressed can be blame. Look at you , you agree to send troops on the other side of the planet, for something based on a lie, killing innoncent peoples in the name of your nation where none of them has ever done anything to you, imagine if a bulldozer would come to your town to destroyed your house, apperently for a religious fary tail.


Israel and the whole west is to blame in that conflict.
 

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Yeah well,... Some free advice, Logic 7. Labelling people as nazis is an all-purpose communication stopper.

Experience suggests that when somebody starts out calling people nazis who by definition cannot be any such thing, one can generally assume there's another agenda, and reason, balance, and evidence will not have a large role in what follows. Ad hominem attacks, especially ones as obvious as that one, will not help your credibility or your case.
 

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Yeah well,... Some free advice, Logic 7. Labelling people as nazis is an all-purpose communication stopper.

Experience suggests that when somebody starts out calling people nazis who by definition cannot be any such thing, one can generally assume there's another agenda, and reason, balance, and evidence will not have a large role in what follows. Ad hominem attacks, especially ones as obvious as that one, will not help your credibility or your case.
Save it Dex, reason is not in their dictionary. Nor is watching, reading or researching without already knowing what conclusion you will undoubtably come to.
 

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I can't see the video now, but i will tonight. Yes there is guilt on both sides, but the fact is simple,it is israel who gives palestinians life a hell,not like the nazi did to the jews, but very very similar, you can say whatever you want,but the fact remain that you can't blame oppressed peoples in that situation, but those who oppressed can be blame. Look at you , you agree to send troops on the other side of the planet, for something based on a lie, killing innoncent peoples in the name of your nation where none of them has ever done anything to you, imagine if a bulldozer would come to your town to destroyed your house, apperently for a religious fary tail.


Israel and the whole west is to blame in that conflict.

Well, Logic 7, you have managed to absolutely overwhelm your own record for the dumbest post ever made.

If you are Belgian, you should know better. How many Jews in Belguim? How many were there in 1939?

Allow me to educate you. During the war years (1939-1945) the Nazis managed to murder about 6 million Jews. That would have been easily 90 percent plus of all European Jews, and about 40% of the Jewish population WORLD WIDE.

Were the Israelis in any way comparable to the Nazis, there would be NO "Palestinian problem" because the three or four million Palestinians in Israel proper, Gaza, and the West Bank would all be DEAD! Instead, the 170,000 Arabs left in Israel proper at the end of the War of Independence have multiplied into 1.3 MILLION, and the maximum 800,000 Palestinian refugees have become 3 MILLION.

Were the Israelis in any way comparable to the Nazis, there would not be rubber bullets fired at protesters, instead Israeli soldiers would be getting orders like "One Bullet, One Palestinian". German Einsatzgruppen were constantly exposed to the motto "One bullet, One Jew" as they wasted so much ammo killing Jews. Likewise, the tens of thousands of tank and artillery shells fired into Lebanon would have killed a lot more than 1,800 Lebanese. Likewise, it wouldn't be teargas fired at protesters in a field, it would be Zyklon B dropped on prisoners in the "showers".

Perhaps you should try to maintain some small connection to reality when you post.............
 

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Yeah well,... Some free advice, Logic 7. Labelling people as nazis is an all-purpose communication stopper.

Experience suggests that when somebody starts out calling people nazis who by definition cannot be any such thing, one can generally assume there's another agenda, and reason, balance, and evidence will not have a large role in what follows. Ad hominem attacks, especially ones as obvious as that one, will not help your credibility or your case.



OK, then, explain to me, what other definition can describes israeli policy??


fascism?? based on nazi strategie??



Look , 2 great jews, like albert einstein, and hannah arendt( one of the best phylosopher of all time) warned the world about israel, which was becoming a fascist states inspired by the Nazi/germany.
 

Logic 7

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Save it Dex, reason is not in their dictionary. Nor is watching, reading or researching without already knowing what conclusion you will undoubtably come to.


I ask again, how do you know IDF were using rubber bullet?