Argentina "arrests" British ship in Falklands row.

Daz_Hockey

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thats true

fair point...I would like to see how the US navy would compare to all of her Majesty's Royal Navy's out there though

I reckon it would be MILES bigger than the US's and lets face it, it's a Sovernty issue here.
 

The Gunslinger

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It's a sovereignty issue, correct, but secretly I'm hoping for Britannia to stomp the Argies once and for the South Atlantic!

God save the Queen!
 

Daz_Hockey

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and let's hope her majesty's commonwealth forces rule the waves for a very long time indeed




oh and Diago Maradona is a dirty little cheat
 

The Gunslinger

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Just found this, it'a a little old though

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4496791.stm

Outrage at Falklands definition
By Elliot Gotkine
BBC News, Buenos Aires



Bitterness over the UK's "Antarctic Territory" erupted into war in 1982
Argentina has expressed outrage at plans to include the Falkland Islands as a British overseas territory in the new European Union constitution.
Foreign Minister Rafael Bielsa said he had ordered all 25 of Argentina's EU ambassadors to present complaints.

Argentina has long claimed sovereignty over what it calls the Malvinas, which have been in British hands since 1833.

Its 1982 invasion sparked a war during which around 650 Argentines and more than 250 Britons died.

The all-out diplomatic assault on the EU's constitution has its roots in an annex of the draft document relating to EU overseas territories.

Specifically, it says that the Falklands, along with nearby islands and a chunk of Antarctica, are all part of Britain's overseas territories.

The UK's claim over these lands is nothing new but if they are enshrined in the EU constitution Argentina fears that what has traditionally been a bilateral dispute could go continental.

Mr Bielsa said his country totally rejected the inclusion of the disputed territories in the draft document.

"We have a dispute," he said. "We will wait four, 40 or 400 years but the Malvinas are Argentine and it will all be worked out. We have to have the same patience as the colonial powers had."

He vowed to complain to Brussels but he also noted that if the constitution was not approved by all 25 EU members then the row would become academic.

We will wait four, 40 or 400 years but the Malvinas are Argentine

Rafael Bielsa
Argentine foreign minister
 

cortez

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The Gunslinger said:
I almost think the US would help the UK. America used up nearly all of it's political capital in that country when it went to war in Iraq. If Bush wanted some easy Brownie points, he'd help.

Plus, I really, really, doubt Argentina would go to war if they knew America was going to get involved. The American navy is the best navy the world, they would utterly annihilate the Argentinian navy.

im only kidding of course but play along ok?

all that POWER all those NUcLEAR weopons yes
A MASSIVE superpower

BUT

if they are so POWERFULL why is is they cant really WIN over two piddly little states like IRAQ and IRAN

i agree it would foolish of argentina to try to retake the faulklands now

she should
wait wait untill the US overextends itself even more in say IRAN and SYRIA dragging its poodle behind in

and maybe in the midst of the above
SURPRISE!!!--- CHINA makes her much awaited move

cry havoc and let slip the poodles of war!!!!!
 

cortez

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Blackleaf said:
Personnel
Availability
(males age 16-49) 14,607,724 (2005 est.)
Fit for military service
(males age 16-49) 12,046,268 (2005 est.)
Regular personel strength
(non-civilians) 190,000 (October 2004) (Ranked 22nd)
Expenditure
Sterling figure
(FY05/06) £36.25 billion
US Dollar figure
(FY05/06) $65.25 billion
Percent of GDP
(2005) 2.7%

Strength

British Army
Main Battle Tanks 386 Challenger 2
Infantry fighting vehicles 575 Warrior
Armoured Personnel Carriers 4,000+
Artillery 400
Aircraft 290
Personnel (Regular Army) 103,780
Personnel (Territorial Army) 35,000+

Royal Navy
Ballistic Missile Submarines 4
Fleet Submarines 9
Aircraft Carriers 3
Helicopter Carrier 1
Destroyers 8
Frigates 17
Patrol boats 23
Amphibious Assault ships 2
Minesweepers 16
Survey vessels 5
Aircraft 210
Personnel (Regular, including Royal Marines) 36,810
Personnel (Royal Naval Reserve) 3,250
Personnel (Royal Marines Reserve) 600

Royal Fleet Auxiliary
Tankers 9
Resupply ships 2
Tanker/Resupply ships 2
Aviation training ship 1
Repair ship 1
Amphibious Assault ships 5
Strategic lift vessels 6

Royal Air Force
Aircraft 942 (including helicopters)
Personnel 49,280
------------------------

SUMMARY--- BUSH's POODLE
 

cortez

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The Gunslinger said:
It's a sovereignty issue, correct, but secretly I'm hoping for Britannia to stomp the Argies once and for the South Atlantic!

God save the Queen!


Have you been eating some of that crappy albertan madcowinfested beaf?

try the argentinian stuff-- its much better
 

cortez

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Daz_Hockey said:
and let's hope her majesty's commonwealth forces rule the waves for a very long time indeed




oh and Diago Maradona is a dirty little cheat

TISK TISK TISK
 

Daz_Hockey

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you may tisk, but you are denying the truth....besides....whats all the fuss about a couple of little islands eh?

one final note:

DIAEGO MARADONA IS A DIRTY LITTLE CHEAT

(he admitted it himself)
 

cortez

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Daz_Hockey said:
and let's hope her majesty's commonwealth forces rule the waves for a very long time indeed

oh dear yes hope indeed
but hope cannot stop the slow death of the savage empire
but do keep on hoping nonetheless
 

cortez

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Blackleaf said:
and thus we the peopola of CANDADA have at our disposal a FORMIDABLE marine arsenal
Oooh. The Royal Navy must be quaking in fear.

no not quaking
quaking - as in a duck
- as in the drake duck

your replies are for the most part.....small is that concision

or

doth you protest too little?
 

The Gunslinger

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oh dear yes hope indeed
but hope cannot stop the slow death of the savage empire
but do keep on hoping nonetheless

Your kidding right? The people on the Falklands islands are British, they don't want to be Argentinian. This is a clear case of Argentinian agression.

im only kidding of course but play along ok?

all that POWER all those NUcLEAR weopons yes
A MASSIVE superpower

BUT

if they are so POWERFULL why is is they cant really WIN over two piddly little states like IRAQ and IRAN

i agree it would foolish of argentina to try to retake the faulklands now

she should
wait wait untill the US overextends itself even more in say IRAN and SYRIA dragging its poodle behind in

and maybe in the midst of the above
SURPRISE!!!--- CHINA makes her much awaited move

cry havoc and let slip the poodles of war!!!!!

Britain is not America's poodle. Britain is one of the few nations left on earth that has any power projection capabilities at all.

And I keep saying that a war between China and America is implausible, at best. And it won't matter how far America overextends itself. It will be a naval war. And no one navy in the world, perhaps even five or six, could manhandle the American navy. They might get lucky and sink a carrier or two, but they won't "win". Look at the Falklands war, it wasn't even remotely similar to the Gulf Wars.
 

cortez

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The Gunslinger said:
oh dear yes hope indeed
but hope cannot stop the slow death of the savage empire
but do keep on hoping nonetheless

Your kidding right? The people on the Falklands islands are British, they don't want to be Argentinian. This is a clear case of Argentinian agression.

im only kidding of course but play along ok?

all that POWER all those NUcLEAR weopons yes
A MASSIVE superpower

BUT

if they are so POWERFULL why is is they cant really WIN over two piddly little states like IRAQ and IRAN

i agree it would foolish of argentina to try to retake the faulklands now

she should
wait wait untill the US overextends itself even more in say IRAN and SYRIA dragging its poodle behind in

and maybe in the midst of the above
SURPRISE!!!--- CHINA makes her much awaited move

cry havoc and let slip the poodles of war!!!!!

Britain is not America's poodle. Britain is one of the few nations left on earth that has any power projection capabilities at all.

And I keep saying that a war between China and America is implausible, at best. And it won't matter how far America overextends itself. It will be a naval war. And no one navy in the world, perhaps even five or six, could manhandle the American navy. They might get lucky and sink a carrier or two, but they won't "win". Look at the Falklands war, it wasn't even remotely similar to the Gulf Wars.


Oh dear
Now methinks you doth protest too MUCH
( giggle)
 

Daz_Hockey

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and honestly?...are you seriously trying to tell us because you are Argentinian, and live in Canada that Canada or any other north american country will side with Argentina and fight on their side if this ever arose?

if you do believe that, then frankly your a fool.....AND if it wasnt for this old empire you would still be under the yoke of the spanish....have no doubts about that, you have the US to thank that Argentina isnt another member of the commonwealth of nations.....exactly how many south american countries thank a british person for their independence from spain eh?....quite a few
 

cortez

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Daz_Hockey said:
and let's hope Frank the goat god's forces rule the waves for a very long time indeed




oh and Her Majesty is a dirty little cheat



Now thats probably what you MEANT to say
 

Daz_Hockey

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ah class if in doubt......do a bit of creative editing

oh but come on, Argentina LOVES a dirty little cheat

they dont the secret Luffwaffe anymore you know, and the french wont help this time
 

The Gunslinger

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This is ridiculous. This wasn't one last gasp at empire or American imperialism or some silly nonsense. This was British people being invaded by Argentina. Britain responded in kind, and won. I would hope Canada would go to war too if foreigners attacked and seized Canadian territory.
 

cortez

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Daz_Hockey said:
and honestly?...are you seriously trying to tell us because you are Argentinian, and live in Canada that Canada or any other north american country will side with Argentina and fight on their side if this ever arose?

if you do believe that, then frankly your a fool.....AND if it wasnt for this old empire you would still be under the yoke of the spanish....have no doubts about that, you have the US to thank that Argentina isnt another member of the commonwealth of nations.....exactly how many south american countries thank a british person for their independence from spain eh?....quite a few

my heritage is latvian canadian or did you think that cortez might have been my real name?
and living here amoung the irish-canadians, and french-canadians, and east indian-canadians, and chinese-canadians and spanish-candians and ( ill have be vague on this one becausee of the current "row " middle-eastern canadians) and german-canadians and native-canadians and jamaican canadians etc etc has over the years stimulated an interest in that precious empire of yours......they all had something to say about ... not very nice
and whenever i do the research verify their tales of brutality ims surprised that they were understanding the case
 

Daz_Hockey

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ah Latvia...great little country although I expect you dont know enough about it to know who Imants Bledidts or Marian Pahars is. I have actually been there, nice country, lovely cruises.

Do you think your alone living with all these nationalities?, bare in mind I have also been to Canada (and hold a work permit there) I live with irish, chinese, indians, pakistanis, jamaicans and poles, thats the good thing about the commonwealth, we embrace many nationalities...and not all of them move because they "hate" the british, for most it is a simple case of land and space.

Britain was brutal, they repressed people, but did they ever forcefully make anyone change to christianity or die?...no, we were the most relaxed on this issue, as an american said to me once "ah Spain, a good example of how ruleing on religious fear and gold can only last so long"

no, the british empire was built on a great many things, mostly trade, so dont lecture me on the rights and wrongs of a British Empire, if it wernt Britain it would be someone else, who knows?, russia could have ruled what is now Canada just like they did Latvia for so very long, nd they wernt "nice" to them
 

cortez

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WOW HAVE I MESSED UP

1492-1998-500 YEARS

IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN

1492-1898-400 YEAR

LOL !!!!!

OK ----- ON THE BASIS OF THAT TYPO
I CONCEDE

YOU WIN!!!!