Are muslims out to get us in T.O.?


Nominee Member
Jun 10, 2002
Richmond Hill
Dear Immigration Reformer:

Multiculturalism is a crock. Yet, Establishment dimwits believe it's a
proud achievement of rapidly declining Absurdistan. Note the fulsome praise
from William Thorsell in the GLOBE AND MAIL (November 18, 2002).

"Canada is a famously functioonal multicultural society, at least in the
ambience of the major cities. It is our habit to celebrate the delightful
variations in dress, cuisine and rituals that grace our major cities."

On the contrary, many Canadians, in fact, do a slow burn at the insolence
of newcomers flaunting their native dress -- burkas (head to toe bags for
women), turbans, saris, etc.

However, on a far more fundamental level, multiculturalism, which means no
dominant culture but the slow or not so slow supplanting of the founding
European culture by aliens is a disaster. It says all cultures are equal
and insists on no conformity or even loyalty on the part of the invaders.

Thus, we now have the case of a Moslem cleric in Britain preaching the
outright murder, despoliation or enslavement of kafirs -- that's us,

Sheik Abu Hamza is quoted as telling followers in Britain: "If a kafir is
walking by and you catch him, he's booty. You can sell him in the market.
Most of them are spies. And even if they don't do anything, if Muslims
cannot take them and sell them in the market, you just kill them. It's OK."

That's carte blanche for murder.

There is no place for a West-hating fanatic like Hamza in our society.
Multiculturalism must be replaced by a new dispensation. We must insist and
demand of newcomers and those already here an adherence to European values
and ways. Should there be a conflict between their values and ours, theirs
must give way. If they don't like it, then they can go back to where they
came from.

Paul Fromm

Segments of taped messages have been posted on Web site

Michael Petrou =20
The Ottawa Citizen=20{A7B2B4AF-F8F3-4E99-AA76-22FB6=

LONDON -- A radical London-based Muslim cleric has been caught on film
urging his followers to kill non-Muslims and commit acts of teerrorism.

Tapes of Sheik Abu Hamza, a cleric affiliated with London's Finsbury Park
mosque, telling an audience that non-believers should be killed or sold
into slavery have been smuggled onto the Internet.

The tapes, which appear to have been made for propaganda purposes, were
allegedly given by Mr. Hamza to a researcher who posed as a supporter and
infiltrated his inner circle.=20

"If a kafir person (non-believer) goes in a Muslim country, he is like a
cow. Anybody can take him. That is the Islamic law," Mr. Hamza says on one

"If a kafir is walking by and you catch him, he's booty. You can sell him
in the market. Most of them are spies. And even if they don't do anything,
if Muslims cannot take them and sell them in the market, you just kill
them. It's OK."

Mr. Hamza also praises the al-Qaeda bombings of U.S. embassies in Kenya and
Tanzania that killed 224 people.=20

"If Muslims are having a war against these people, than yes, it is
legitimate," he says.

He then praised attacks against ships from non-Muslim countries: "If a ship
which loses its way and comes to a Muslim land, they'll take it as booty."=

A terrorist attack in 2000 on the USS Cole killed 17 American sailors. The
attack has been linked to Muslim militants in Britain, but Mr. Hamza has
never been charged.=20

Despite accusations he recruits for al-Qaeda, Mr. Hamza's only punishment
in Britain has been a High Court order banning him from preaching at the
Finsbury Park mosque. However, when the Citizen visited the mosque several
weeks ago, worshippers had his phone number handy.

"It's all fabrication. He's just taking clips and taking it out of context,
as usual," Mr. Hamza said last night when asked about the videos.

He scoffed at suggestions the tapes may lead to his arrest.

He said he can't be accused of inciting people to commit violent acts
because he's a cleric who only preaches Muslim law. "I say the reality
that's in the Muslim books anyway. Whether I say it or not, it's in the

The sheik, who was born in Egypt and grew up in England, then alluded to
more violence -- using language similar to that used by Osama bin Laden.

"Just as non-Muslim blood is hot, Muslim blood is hot, too," he said. "It's
for them to worry about. When they kill, they will be killed."

Other videos show British Muslims fighting in what appears to be Bosnia,
bragging about killing Serbs and carrying out a holy war with other Muslims
from all over the world, including Canada.

In one tape, a British medical student, who says his name is Abu Ibrahim,
is shown holding a Kalashnikov machine-gun and mocking Muslims whose only
contribution to jihad is to donate money to an Islamic charity.

"What we lack are Muslims that are prepared to suffer and sacrifice," he=

Somewhat bizarrely, Mr. Ibrahim then says fighting a holy war isn't too=

"People think that when you come to Bosnia, you sit and there are shells
falling around you," he says. "They don't know that we have kebabs. They
don't know that we have ice cream and cakes here. ... They don't know that
this is a nice holiday for us."

Mr. Ibrahim's speech then becomes gruesome.=20

"You see the Serbs, the same people that raped our brothers and sisters.
You see their dead bodies lying around in the hundreds. You feel that
you've achieved something."=20

Segments of the videos are posted on the Internet at .

=A9 Copyright 2002 The Ottawa Citizen