Anit-Smoking Legislation

[Recidivism]

I feel that this legislation is extremely ineffective. All it does is demonize smokers when more should be done to help them. The tax on cigerettes has gone up so much over the last decade. (I remember a time when they were three dollars a pack!) Time has shown that THAT method didn't work. Continuing this tax seems like the governemtn is feeding off the addiction of smokers.

Now, they are making smokers go outside to smoke. I've seen smokers in -40 weather outside smoking. While I think it's gross to go to a restaurant and have to smell smoke, it's not working! Other than sparing restaurant workers the cancer later in life, it just allienates smokers even more.

It's so easy to paint smokers as these jerks that want to kill everyone and leech off of our health care system but they have an addiction and the government isn't helping by adding to this image. I would like to see a more proactive approach taken like having provincial health plans cover the patch, or the gum.

 

[Jay]

The government should simply mind its own business, and stay out of the lives of smokers and restaurant/bar owners.

The government is full of ppl who believe they are better than everyone else and morally superior.

They say smokers are costing the health care system to much money....I guess they should of thought about that before the communized the system...

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Anit-Smoking Legislat

I've been one of those smokers standing outside at 40 below. It's no picnic.

We have a city councellor who wants to even further...he wants to ban smoking near any building entrance. That would wipe out smoking on bar patios in the summer and leave us with no place to go downtown.

 

[jackd]

Blair:
As a former smoker, I know what you mean.
One way for your to quit would be to move to Quebec where the provincial Govern. health care system pays for patches/gums and other aids to quit smoking.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Anit-Smoking Legislat

I've tried all those things. Didn't work.

 

[Jay]

I quite smoking regularly....

 

[crit13]

Have any of you tried Hypnosis? I would have never thought that it could work but my wifes cousin used to smoke 2 packs a day for over 40 years and he has been cigarette free for almost a year.

The only thing he did was hypnosis and some accupuncture treatments. It's worth a try.

 

[Ten Packs]

Re: RE: Anit-Smoking Legislation

They say smokers are costing the health care system to much money....I guess they should of thought about that before the communized the system...

A little math exercise:

- It is said that 2/3 of the cost of cigarettes is tax. At 70 bucks a carton, that's about $47.
- Statistically 1 in 5 adults smoke, on average a carton a week.
- Not being able to find the ADULT population of Canada, I will guess that out of 30 million, it is at least 20 million. 20% of that is 4 million.

Therefore, 4 million x $47 x 52 weeks equals $9,776,000,000. Thats almost Ten BILLION dollars - PER YEAR! Minimum!


We pay.... we bloody well pay.

 

[mrmom2]

I use to smoke 2 packs a day until about 2 years ago.I woke up one morning and just decided to quit .Its tough but I think the key is to keep trying .It worked for me

 

[Jay]

http://www.stupid.ca/main.html

 

[Ten Packs]

http://www.stupid.ca/main.html

Not knowing how to use "URL" tags ain't the smartest thing in the world, either.....

 

[Jay]

If you'll notice Ten packs, I do smoke, just not regularly....

The link was not to call ppl stupid who smoke, it was to point out the government calls people who smoke stupid. I just didn't think it needed an explanation.

I think you can manage if I don't use URL tags from time to time.

 

[MMMike]

I gotta say, an official government website for information on smoking called 'stupid.ca' is more than a little condescending and insulting. I get pretty tired of all the self-righteous 'community service' announcements everywhere on the radio, t.v, on highway billboards, in the subway advising smokers to quit, to not smoke in the car with kids, to buckle their seatbelts, etc......

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Anit-Smoking Legislat

And everytime I see that Bob the Exsmoker guy on my TV, it makes me want a cigarette.

 

[Jay]

Re: RE: Anit-Smoking Legislation

I gotta say, an official government website for information on smoking called 'stupid.ca' is more than a little condescending and insulting. I get pretty tired of all the self-righteous 'community service' announcements everywhere on the radio, t.v, on highway billboards, in the subway advising smokers to quit, to not smoke in the car with kids, to buckle their seatbelts, etc......

This what happens when Liberals get power in Ontario.

I can't imagine its going to happen again for a long time after what they have done, or not done......

 

[Reverend Blair]

Yeah...none of this was around before McGuinty. :roll:

 

[mrmom2]

I agree but smoking in the car with your kids is just plain selfish.

 

[Jay]

Yeah...none of this was around before McGuinty. :roll:

The web site wasn't around before McGuinty, or the commercials advertising it.

Perhaps you don't realize Rev, but it’s lefties who believe that they need to control every aspect of your life, not the right. The right couldn't care less if you smoke. We aren’t a bunch of nosy socialites who think that were better than everyone else.

 

[MMMike]

I don't mind some legislation (mandatory seatbelts) or a high level of taxation (cigarettes, alcohol) to "encourage" behaviour beneficial to society as a whole. I am not a complete libertarian. But the anti-smoking campaign is starting to go too far: high taxes, ban on tobacco advertising, scary pictures on the labels, endless "education" campaigns, hiding cigarettes behind the counter, municipal anti-smoking laws..... Although I am not a smoker, it's getting a little out of hand. Either end the hypocrisy and make it illegal or step back!