Animal Liberation Front threatens primate researcher

[Avro]

"The assumption that animals are without rights, and the illusion that our treatment of them has no moral significance..."

This underpins the creed known as human supremacy and dictates the action of its followers known as human supremacists...me, I just call them a-holes.

That's like calling an animal in the wild homeless.

 

[Avro]

Smoking isn't a key factor in childhood illness nor a major threat to anyone other than smokers. And that's a longterm thing. Part of a huge variable that will contest the human condition over decades of living.
More research should be devoted to stress and noise as illness variables.
Only a human supremacist, a follower of a creed far more repugnant than racism or sexism or sectarianism, would use animals to study human diseases.

Doc, great lyrics stand on their own. These are limp and lame unaccompanied by music. But the lad sure could play!

So smoking in a car with your kid in it dosen't have any effect on the child?

We are superior to animals, if a building was on fire and you had a choice of saving a cat in it or a child, which would you choose?

 

[Twila]

That's like calling an animal in the wild homeless.

hmmmm, I'm just now on my way to trap some homeless kittens, really. They have no home...yet.

We are superior to animals, if a building was on fire and you had a choice of saving a cat in it or a child, which would you choose?

I'd save both. I'd through the cat out the window and carry the baby down with me...unless I was forced to through both out the window...then I'd do that

 

[Avro]

That wasn't the question, you can only save one. The other will die a horrible death by fire.

 

[Dreadful Nonsense]

That wasn't the question, you can only save one. The other will die a horrible death by fire.

this one is a barrel of fun.....what other images ya want to lay on me....

 

[Avro]

Yep, it is hard to answer without proving me right.:lol:

 

[tamarin]

Yikes, a human supremacist on the thread! Makes Don Imus look like a boy scout.
Smoking in cars with children was the norm in the fifties and sixties. The tobacco was stronger and a lot of it unfiltered. The research boys have got a lot of explaining to do. Given the frequency that their studies are debunked by later studies they don't have much credibility. This is not to advocate the habit of smoking in enclosed areas with children; it is to question the intent and practice of those whose research is taken as gospel on the street.

 

[Twila]

That wasn't the question, you can only save one. The other will die a horrible death by fire.

Well since I'm the pilot of my reality, I change the question to suit my self. Isn't the 21 century lovely?

 

[Twila]

Smoking in cars with children was the norm in the fifties and sixties. The tobacco was stronger and a lot of it unfiltered. The research boys have got a lot of explaining to do. Given the frequency that their studies are debunked by later studies they don't have much credibility. This is not to advocate the habit of smoking in enclosed areas with children; it is to question the intent and practice of those whose research is taken as gospel on the street.

How about we move this to a thread of it's own? It's deserving of it's own debate

 

[Avro]

Yikes, a human supremacist on the thread! Makes Don Imus look like a boy scout.
Smoking in cars with children was the norm in the fifties and sixties. The tobacco was stronger and a lot of it unfiltered. The research boys have got a lot of explaining to do. Given the frequency that their studies are debunked by later studies they don't have much credibility. This is not to advocate the habit of smoking in enclosed areas with children; it is to question the intent and practice of those whose research is taken as gospel on the street.

Interseting how you never answered my questioned, it's a no brainer for me, I would save the child.

Be it know that tamarian thinks smoking around kids is okay along with smoking while pregnant.

Let me guess.....tamrian is a weak minded smoker who hasn't the guts to quit.

 

[Pangloss]

Getting back to the topic at hand:

The ALF is committing an act of hypocrisy - perhaps unwittingly. They are threatening and terrorizing a primate (the human researcher) in order to get him to stop harming primates.

I'm with Peter Singer on this one - I wonder if there is any actual ethical divide between all of us primates, and indeed most of the mammals.

Would I kill someone to stop them from inflicting fatal harm to a primate of a different species? Maybe, in the heat of the moment, I might.

But certainly this premeditated campaign of harassment and cruelty and punishment conducted by the ALF is unethical and indefensible.

Pangloss

BTW, I'd save the child, not the kitten - the question is moronic.

- p

 

[Pangloss]

Interseting how you never answered my questioned, it's a no brainer for me, I would save the child.

Be it know that tamarian thinks smoking around kids is okay along with smoking while pregnant.

Let me guess.....tamrian is a weak minded smoker who hasn't the guts to quit.

Avro - just to point out the crushingly obvious - personal attacks are the universal sign of having lost the argument to stronger reason and are a last ditch attempt to score cheap shots.

If that wasn't what you were trying to signal - well then you need to start working on your rhetorical skills.

Pangloss

 

[Cosmo]

Ahhh Avro ... some of us may be smokers, but at least we can quit. When you're nasty natured there ain't much that ya can do. Condolences, lad.

 

[Avro]

Avro - just to point out the crushingly obvious - personal attacks are the universal sign of having lost the argument to stronger reason and are a last ditch attempt to score cheap shots.

If that wasn't what you were trying to signal - well then you need to start working on your rhetorical skills.

Pangloss

Anybody who signs out with their net name is a retard.

 

[Avro]

Ahhh Avro ... some of us may be smokers, but at least we can quit. When you're nasty natured there ain't much that ya can do. Condolences, lad.

I did quit.

 

[Avro]

Getting back to the topic at hand:

The ALF is committing an act of hypocrisy - perhaps unwittingly. They are threatening and terrorizing a primate (the human researcher) in order to get him to stop harming primates.

I'm with Peter Singer on this one - I wonder if there is any actual ethical divide between all of us primates, and indeed most of the mammals.

Would I kill someone to stop them from inflicting fatal harm to a primate of a different species? Maybe, in the heat of the moment, I might.

But certainly this premeditated campaign of harassment and cruelty and punishment conducted by the ALF is unethical and indefensible.

Pangloss

BTW, I'd save the child, not the kitten - the question is moronic.

- p

The question proves who you think is superior....long live mankind.

 

[Twila]

long live mankind.

To bad mankind is running full out towards it's own destruction.

 

[Cosmo]

I did quit.

Maybe smoking, but not being mean spirited and insulting. Don't think that's a vice. More of a character issue.

 

[Avro]

Maybe smoking, but not being mean spirited and insulting. Don't think that's a vice. More of a character issue.

Why? Everything I say is true of smokers.

Weak

Selfish

Stinky

Disease ridden

Litterbugs

Is it mean to be truthful?

 

[Twila]

Whoa! somebody has a hate on for smokers.....

Careful you don't let that hate eat you up inside....you'll resemble the smokers you hate then.