American killed in Halifax Bar fight

[ottawabill]

Well Curio,

I am a guy but have no real understanding of what could make someone so mad..here and now to kill someone, unless as you say there is a built up anger beforehand and you just want to vent it somewhere..

This use to be a big city thing but it now happens in Halifax, Ottawa, Edmonton etc...

Why excatly are they all so angry I ask myself? Is it because we removed religon? Parents alway working? Kids getting whatever they want, then frustrated when it stops?? dunno

 

[Sassylassie]

I heard on the Radio a few minutes ago an Official Police Press Release about the murder, it appears that the American Sailor was a good samaritan who wasn't involved in the fight he tried to break up two waring fractions and got stabbed in the meelee. A male 23 years of age has been charged with First Degree Murder, which no doubt will be reduced to "Manslaughter".

The fact that this gentleman carried a knife on his person tells me he wasn't exactly a choir boy. Nova Scotia has never had a problem with Americans or American Service Men, the US is usually our training partners in Military Exercises and there is a fair amount of good natured ribbing and teasing but in 20 years I never once saw an episode of violence amoungs our members. The British yes but not the yanks.

 

[EastSideScotian]

I heard on the Radio a few minutes ago an Official Police Press Release about the murder, it appears that the American Sailor was a good samaritan who wasn't involved in the fight he tried to break up two waring fractions and got stabbed in the meelee. A male 23 years of age has been charged with First Degree Murder, which no doubt will be reduced to "Manslaughter".

The fact that this gentleman carried a knife on his person tells me he wasn't exactly a choir boy. Nova Scotia has never had a problem with Americans or American Service Men, the US is usually our training partners in Military Exercises and there is a fair amount of good natured ribbing and teasing but in 20 years I never once saw an episode of violence amoungs our members. The British yes but not the yanks.

Yep.... Thats the real story.

A French Medical ship came to dock one time, and all the saliors came to the clubs, here were a few fights that night. I even had to haul a friend out of one.

But as for this recent killing, the American was actting as a good person. Halifax is a Navy Town lets not forget and Saliors love Halifax, Iam sure they didnt want to start any troubble.

 

[Sassylassie]

The man arrested for the murder has a history of stabbings. Two years ago he was sentenced in NS to 67 months in jail for stabbing a man outside a barbershop 14 times he also attacked this man's girl friend and stabbed her. At the time of sentencing he was granted double credit for time served so he did 41 months. Today he was let out of jail on bail for first degree murder, what a justice system we have.

 

[CDNBear]

The man arrested for the murder has a history of stabbings. Two years ago he was sentenced in NS to 67 months in jail for stabbing a man outside a barbershop 14 times he also attacked this man's girl friend and stabbed her. At the time of sentencing he was granted double credit for time served so he did 41 months. Today he was let out of jail on bail for first degree murder, what a justice system we have.

You gotta love Canadian Justice, stab someone 14 times get 67 months. Two twisted kids skin a live cat, and they gety two years.

I hope the family of the Seaman sue the ass into oblivion. Then sue the judge that let him out.

 

[Tonington]

Serious, when will people learn that these types of criminals should remain labelled "dangerous" offenders. It's a totally different story for crimes of passion where the accused has no history of this behaviour. This guy obviously does. Normal deterence for crimes is only effective if the person is rational. Someone like this obviously is not.

 

[ottawabill]

I can't believe how many times I have heard of someone being arrested for some crime, then they tell you of his previous crimes...He's arrested Oct. 2006 and he raped someone in 2004..what is he doing out to commit the next crime...You also have to figure, our courst system is not fast. If he commited the crime in 2004 it would have taken so time to arrest him and put him on trial.

Whatever the hell this 3 for one time is while awaiting trail is complete and utter crap....If he is gulity the time should be at best one for one!!

Maybe 3 for 1 in payment if he is inocent!!

 

[Tonington]

Or perhaps three strikes and you're out, like California.

 

[Sassylassie]

The latest Crime update: Well this little ****e head "When arrested Mr X was on full parole aftr serving 17 months of his 41-month sentence he received in February 2004 for a drunken, vicious knife attack against a Halifax barber and the man's girlfriend in April 2002."

He didn't know the barber or his girl friend he attacked without provacation and stabbed the barber from behind, he only stopped stabbing the victim when a stranger hauled his asst off the man and the article goes on to say he was a model prisoner. So he only serves 17 months for attacking and maiming a man for life (he has permanant nerve damage) and he's on parole and he stabs and kills someone. Nice, just ducky and the parole board is stepping all over themselves saying how could we know cause he was a model prisoner. He took anger management after all, and prolly basket weaving and pottery.

 

[ottawabill]

Or perhaps three strikes and you're out, like California.

Harper is trying to get that passed but ALL the other parties are blocking it. The california law goes to far, it's basically ANY 3 strikes, if two have been for violent crime and the 3rd for stealing bread..your out.

The one Harper wants is 3 violent offences and your out..what ever the problem wuth that is I surely don't know??

 

[the caracal kid]

the problem with the proposed law is it declares the repeat offender "guilty until proven innocent" of FUTURE crimes.