American forces crash into Afghan pileup then fire on crowd

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KABUL (AP) - A deadly traffic accident Monday involving U.S. troops sparked the worst rioting in the Afghan capital since the fall of the Taliban regime, with hundreds of protesters looting shops and shouting "Death to America!" At least eight people were killed and 107 injured, an official said.

Hundreds of Afghan army troops and NATO peacekeepers in tanks were deployed around the city, as chanting protesters marched on the presidential palace and rioters smashed police guard boxes, set fire to police cars and ransacked buildings, including the compound of aid group CARE International. Computers were set on fire and smoke billowed from the buildings.

An Associated Press reporter saw several demonstrators pull a man, who appeared to be a westerner, from a civilian vehicle and beat him. The man escaped and ran to a line of police, who fired shots over the heads of the demonstrators.

A spokesman for the U.S.-led coalition expressed regret for the deaths and injuries, and said there would be an investigation. Afghan President Hamid Karzai appealed for calm and said the government "will do its utmost to protect the lives of the people and their property."

Abdullah Fahim, a Health Ministry spokesman, said eight bodies were brought to hospitals in Kabul and 107 more Afghans were treated for injuries.

He said there were no foreigners among the wounded or dead. He had no details on how the casualties occurred, and it wasn't immediately clear if the toll included people from the traffic accident.

The riot was the worst in Kabul since U.S.-led forces ousted the Taliban in late 2001. It erupted in the city's northern suburbs before spreading into the city centre and then to other areas frequented by foreigners, including areas near U.S. and NATO bases.

The unrest started after three U.S. Humvee vehicles coming into the city from the outskirts rammed into a rush-hour traffic jam, hitting several civilian cars, witnesses said.

The coalition said at least one person was killed and six injured in the crash, but police said at least three people were killed and 16 injured.

A Kabul police chief, Sher Shah Usafi, said another person was killed when U.S. troops fired into a crowd of stone-throwing protesters soon after the crash.

Col. Thomas Collins, a coalition spokesman, confirmed there was gunfire at the scene, but said coalition personnel in one military vehicle only fired over the crowd.

He said a large cargo truck in a coalition convoy had suffered a mechanical failure and hit as many as 12 civilian vehicles at a busy intersection.

"This was a tragic incident and we deeply regret any deaths or injuries resulting from this incident," Collins said in a statement. "We will determine the facts regarding the incident and co-operate fully with Afghan authorities."

Afghans often complain about what they call the aggressive driving tactics of the U.S. military. Convoys often pass through crowded areas at high speed and sometimes disregard road rules. The U.S. military says such tactics are necessary to protect the troops from attack.


"Today's demonstration is because Americans killed innocent people," one protester in his late 20s, Gulam Ghaus, said near where rioters burned a police post. "We will not stop until foreigners leave the city. We are looking for foreigners to kill."

AP Television News video showed hundreds of young men hurling rocks at what appeared to be three U.S. military trucks and three dun-coloured Humvees as they sped from the area after the crash, their windscreens cracked by the stones. A machine-gun mounted on one of the Humvees fired into the air over the crowd as the vehicle sped away.

The riot continued for hours into the afternoon.

AP reporters heard several 20-second bursts of heavy automatic gunfire coming from the direction of the U.S. Embassy. It subsided, but gunfire was then heard sporadically.

Staff at the U.S. Embassy were moved to a secure location within the heavily fortified building, said Chris Harris, an embassy spokesman. He had no immediate information on the reported gunfire.

In other areas, rioters broke into shops and stole household items. There were unconfirmed reports from protesters that rioters also smashed windows at the five-star Serena Hotel in the city centre, popular with foreign visitors.

An AP Television News cameraman and an AP reporter were beaten by protesters but not seriously hurt.

Riots targeting foreigners have broken out before in Kabul, including during the furor early this year over cartoons published in European newspapers of the Prophet Muhammad. Also, last year, a magazine report that U.S. interrogators had sullied Islam's holy book at the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, sparked anti-U.S. demonstrations around Afghanistan. In each case, about a dozen people died in the unrest nationwide.
 

Claudius

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RE: American forces crash

Afghans often complain about what they call the aggressive driving tactics of the U.S. military. Convoys often pass through crowded areas at high speed and sometimes disregard road rules. The U.S. military says such tactics are necessary to protect the troops from attack.

Obviously carelessness and disregard will not "protect the troops from attack".


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Mogz

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RE: American forces crash into Afghan pileup then fire on cr

Afghans often complain about what they call the aggressive driving tactics of the U.S. military. Convoys often pass through crowded areas at high speed and sometimes disregard road rules. The U.S. military says such tactics are necessary to protect the troops from attack.

We employ the same tactics. I drove a G-wagon through down town Kabul doing close to 90km/hr, ignoring road signs and the Kabul Police. I'm not going to bite it in some far away land just because a cop tells me to slow down. Accidents happen, sadly this time a riot ensued. I highly doubt that at first the U.S. troops fired in to the crowd. It was most likely over their heads, which ignited the crowd more, which lead to the soldiers firing IN to it. Sad if you ask me.
 

Claudius

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RE: American forces crash

We employ the same tactics.

'Course this is true, and of course there was a reason they were traveling so fast, but I really have to wonder if things would've gotten so out of control so quick if they weren't Americans....partly because of their unfortunate image and partly because of their youth and 'vigour'.

I remember once in Nigeria (in some butt-phuk town I can't even remember in the North-East) a guy driving a taxi hit a middle-aged lady, knocking her down and unconscious (she suffered only bumps'n bruises) . Within 3 minutes there was a group of about 30 passers-by who started to group up and get ugly. Then, as though someone somewhere cracked a whip or fired a starting pistol, the mood suddenly changed from hostile to murderous and this poor fellow was dragged from his taxi, beaten randomly and then quickly they had his hands and feet tied and they were making preparations to 'necktie' him (a tire soaked in gasoline is fitted around the neck of the victim and ignited).

Police were just starting to arrive and the mob was just reaching 50+ and looking like they were going to fight the police when a commotion caught everyone’s attention. The woman who was hit was on her feet with people around here checking to see if she was all right, which was beginning to look obvious.

This murderous mob was created in about 3:30 seconds flat and upon seeing the victim walking around picking up her parcels the mob dispersed in about the same amount of time. The whole scene took no more than 20 minutes.

3 minutes 30 seconds. According to my experience, that's all the time that is needed to go from peace to pieces.