Almost final projections for the 2022 CPC leadership: Poilievre will be the next leader

Ron in Regina

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Not shocking of course but i'm a little surprised that charest and leslyn are so close.
Honestly, I’m not surprised. Lewis will have her appeal to many (ethnicity, woman, fiscally conservative new Canadians, etc…) & apparently there’s people somewhere interested in Charest.

Here’s a different poll from about 1/2yr back when Trudeau was much more popular, but it’s a peak behind a different curtain:
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Lewis will have her appeal to many (ethnicity, woman, fiscally conservative new Canadians, etc…) & apparently there’s people somewhere interested in Charest.

Yeah but i thought with Brown out of the race charest might do a little better. I think we all suspected that Brown was full of crap about his support and that's mentioned in the rather impressive breakdown of this prediction but i thought SOME of it would transfer. It looks like very little if any did.

And i actually thought leslyn would do a little better as well. It's interesting to see the pure social conservative vote (those who pick that as their primary concern) seems to be dropping within the party. They probably still believe as they always have but see other candidates (probably PP) as having other things they like on the table and decided its just not worth pushing the social conservative agenda that much right now.

Which does speak to him being a unifier. If he can bring the party together solidly - then go after the disenfranchised of the other parties - he could get a blue wave in the end. If he can sustain it for three years.
 

Ron in Regina

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…Or until the Fall? Dental Care federally is complicated says Justin mirrored by Chrystia….& Jagmeet is discovering lately that the magic beans might just be beans.

Currently, unlike trying to find a family doctor, there are dentists everywhere, and if you need one you can find one. Jagmeet needs to socialize that so that it’ll be as hard to find a dentist as it is to find a family doctor…. and if he doesn’t get his way maybe he’ll take his balls and go home (?) or will he hang in there until he has the golden parachute pension?
The Liberal government is committed to its promise of delivering on a national dental care program, Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland said Tuesday, though she noted that creating new government programs can be complicated as glossed over by the CBC. They’ll “try” to toss out a portion of their promise to Jagmeet to save some face for his party… but still demonstrating that the Liberals are fully in power in the non-coalition coalition’s coalition.
 

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…Or until the Fall? Dental Care federally is complicated says Justin mirrored by Chrystia….& Jagmeet is discovering lately that the magic beans might just be beans.
Oh they're magic beans all right, the problem for Jaggers is that trudeau scampered up the beanstalk before Jag could. It was a huge gift that Jagmeet planted but the liberals are using to get their way.

I think Jagmeet has a problem with calling it early. He would have to admit he was an idiot and got tricked, and if he goes TOO early the libs will sell the idea that they were actually complying and he just pulled the plug too early and was unreasonable. They'll introduce some 'temporary' measures to show good faith and leave him worried that if he calls them on it he'll be the one who "ruined" dental care in Canada.

And he wants his pension. No doubt.
 

Ron in Regina

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Yeah but i thought with Brown out of the race charest might do a little better. I think we all suspected that Brown was full of crap about his support and that's mentioned in the rather impressive breakdown of this prediction but i thought SOME of it would transfer. It looks like very little if any did.

And i actually thought leslyn would do a little better as well. It's interesting to see the pure social conservative vote (those who pick that as their primary concern) seems to be dropping within the party. They probably still believe as they always have but see other candidates (probably PP) as having other things they like on the table and decided its just not worth pushing the social conservative agenda that much right now.

Which does speak to him being a unifier. If he can bring the party together solidly - then go after the disenfranchised of the other parties - he could get a blue wave in the end. If he can sustain it for three years.
Pierre Poilievre is now the first permanent leader of His Majesty’s Loyal Opposition, after winning the Conservative leadership race to replace Erin O’Toole in decisive fashion. Poilievre’s first ballot victory gives him a serious leadership mandate, the kind of mandate no leader has had since Stephen Harper.

The Conservatives now have an enormous opportunity in front of them not just to potentially form government, but to do so offering a clear, bold, and compelling alternative vision to Canadians who seem to finally be tiring of a scandal plagued Liberal government running out of ideas.

The minute Poilievre announced he was running for the leadership, the race was over. It was not quite a coronation, and to the credit of Poilievre and his team they at no point behaved like it was. But there’s no point pretending that Poilievre was anything short of unstoppable.

There is an unstoppable appetite for change sweeping this country, and this Conservative leadership contest was really about which voice best reflected that mood. The hands-down winner is Pierre Poilievre.

The Conservatives will come together after the resounding victory of Pierre Poilievre in the party’s leadership contest, MPs said after the party announced the results at an event in Ottawa Saturday evening.
MP Rick Perkins, who co-chaired former Quebec premier Jean Charest’s campaign, told the National Post that despite what the tone of the contest might indicate, the Conservative caucus is “totally united.”

Following a divisive nine-month leadership campaign that saw at least one MP threaten to leave the party, Poilievre swept the contest with 68.15 per cent of the vote. Charest, who came in second, only got 16.07 per cent. “Sixty-eight per cent doesn’t look like division to me,” Perkins said.

While Poilievre has now officially won over Conservatives, his next challenge will to woo Canadians of other political stripes, a task polls indicate could be a challenge. Scheer said Poilievre has already grown the party beyond its traditional base.

Pierre Poilievre’s victory to win the Conservative Party of Canada leadership comes as no surprise, but now begins the hard part.
But the reality is these tried-and-true supporters still account for a relatively small slice of the broader electoral pie. Many Canadian voters have yet to become properly acquainted with Poilievre. At best, they’re Poili-curious.

Whether an election occurs in 2025 or more imminently, Poilievre will face some challenges. If voting day comes sooner, there’s limited time for Canadians to get to know him and his policies. If the Liberal/NDP non-coalition coalition can hold out until 2025, how do you sustain such feverish momentum over multiple calendar years?

In his victory speech, Poilievre personally thanked each of the other candidates for their contributions to the party. Yes, even Charest, who he thanked for his role “ensuring that we still have a country” post-1995 Quebec referendum.

As for reaching voters outside western Canada, the leadership results paint a promising picture. Poilievre won all but six ridings in Quebec and all but two in Ontario. There’s no great geographical divide within the party, which dispels the notion that only Charest could bring Quebec and Ontario back under the big blue tent.
 
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Many Canadian voters have yet to become properly acquainted with Poilievre. At best, they’re Poili-curious.
Wow. :ROFLMAO:

True tho. He's got to immediately address that and get out there and get known by as many people as he possibly can. More tours, more and bigger rallies, he excels at that face-to-face interaction stuff. And if he can do that faster and better than the libs and the media can crap on him then it won't take that long to build up a majority level of support.
 

Ron in Regina

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Wow. :ROFLMAO:

True tho. He's got to immediately address that and get out there and get known by as many people as he possibly can. More tours, more and bigger rallies, he excels at that face-to-face interaction stuff. And if he can do that faster and better than the libs and the media can crap on him then it won't take that long to build up a majority level of support.
…Here’s a different poll from about 1/2yr back when Trudeau was much more popular, but it’s a peak behind a different curtain:
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…& The liberal party has shown that when it feels that it’s threatened it will respond with attacks that do not have to have any basis in reality whatsoever….& it’s paid for media doesn’t question it much…
 
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