Alberta adds 20,000 full-time jobs in March

Nick Danger

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That's exactly what you're saying when you refer to their share of the costs

No. I'm not. I'm saying that there is value to this resource and giving it away for less than its true value is cheating the owners of that resource. I don't know how you can make a statement like that, in your own words "share" is a non quantifiable term. Oil corporations will be in Alberta as long as there's money to be made, and for all their whining about how hard done by they are, I sure don't see any of them packing up and leaving.

As I've said already, they were given a pretty sweet deal with the so-called "Alberta Advantage" for a long time. The unwritten deal there was that the consideration would come back to Albertans in the form of well-paying jobs and tax revenue. They aren't holding up their end of the bargain, why should they still get the breaks?
 

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Giving it away for less?.. Less than your arbitrary measure of what you believe is value?

PS - gotta chuckle on your ideas on a sweet deal on the AB advantage... Fact is, the gubmint benefited immensely when more and more head offices in multiple sectors relocated to AB because of the AB Advantage (read: low tax rates)... Gvt made less per company but had far more companies participating... This does not include the bennies that were transferred directly down to employees, services, etc that reaped the windfall of more money transacting through the provincial economy.

Analysing the situation in a 2 dimensional manner is not helping you understand the big picture
 

Nick Danger

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... Fact is, the gubmint benefited immensely when more and more head offices in multiple sectors relocated to AB because of the AB Advantage (read: low tax rates)... Gvt made less per company but had far more companies participating...

And where are they now? Record vacancy rates in downtown Calgary. They are a fickle crowd, they will go where the money is and leave when it's not there. Who is occupying the Legislature in Edmonton matters naught to them.
 

Nick Danger

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Funny how that coincided with increasing tax rates, huh?

Don't even try to go there. Those offices will still be empty no matter who was in power. This is entirely about the price of oil. If you take the time to look at the numbers an additional two percent of profits going toward the tax bill is a drop in the bucket to these guys. Trying to lay blame for a global problem at the feet of a government who came to power after the crash was well underway is just more right wing fear mongering. Ask yourself why the Alberta Conservatives were shown the door in 2015.
 

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Don't even try to go there. This is all about the price of oil. If you take the time to look at the numbers an additional two percent of profits going toward the tax bill is a drop in the bucket to these guys. Trying to lay blame for a global problem at the feet of a government who came to power after the crash had started is just more right wing fear mongering. Ask yourself why the Conservatives were shown the door in 2015.
You forgot "correlation is not causation."
 

captain morgan

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Don't even try to go there. Those offices will still be empty no matter who was in power. This is entirely about the price of oil. If you take the time to look at the numbers an additional two percent of profits going toward the tax bill is a drop in the bucket to these guys. Trying to lay blame for a global problem at the feet of a government who came to power after the crash was well underway is just more right wing fear mongering. Ask yourself why the Alberta Conservatives were shown the door in 2015.

... Just thought that it'd be fun to use the same flawed logic that you employ.

PS - the head offices are still here, it's all the small guys, retailers and whatnot that have packed-up their tents.

PPS - Those that did close their doors did so, in part, due to the Dippers ridiculous policy

... Thought you would want to know
 

Nick Danger

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... Just thought that it'd be fun to use the same flawed logic that you employ.

Feel free to elaborate on my "flawed" logic.

PS - the head offices are still here, it's all the small guys, retailers and whatnot that have packed-up their tents.
I call BS on that.
Calgary office vacancy rate headed for 30% as oil price downturn persists - Calgary - CBC News

PPS - Those that did close their doors did so, in part, due to the Dippers ridiculous policy
In part yes, but the size of that part in comparison to the part played by global market forces is minuscule to the point of being negligible. But please, feel free to support your claim with some (unbiased) reporting.

If you want to talk about flawed logic, let's consider that your entire perspective is based on a prejudice against anything you perceive as left wing politics. You find fault where you intend to find fault, whether it truly exists or not, just as you remain blind to erros in judgment made by former right-of-center governments. In short you lack objectivity. While I may share some left wing views I owe no political allegiance to any particular Alberta party, and this leaves me free to evaluate the issues more realistically.
 

petros

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Upping taxes Corporations means just about anyone who is self employed or business owmer from mowing lawns to hairstylists to auto repair shops, construction contractors are Corporations too. There isn't more to take.

Working people are Govts' bread and butter. You get a study predictable pay cheque small business owners don't have that luxury.