A voice of reason in a sea of complex debate

[Dexter Sinister]

If you require clarification then you should abandon all hope and embrace your cereal box.:laughing7:

Is it asking too much of you to make sense today?

 

[TenPenny]

He would hardly listen to Rome regardless of his views, as Mr Ingham is an Anglican "bishop"

Indeed not. As it should be. "perhaps" i was not referring to "him". Nice use of "quotation" marks, to point out your views of an "Anglican" bishop.

Love thy neighbor, as long as he worships the guy in Rome with the funny hat.

 

[darkbeaver]

Is it asking too much of you to make sense today?

Yes it is, this is the sabbath and I reserve my god given privilage to remain nonsensical through the entire weekend.:wave:

 

[snfu73]

Yes it is, this is the sabbath and I reserve my god given privilage to remain nonsensical through the entire weekend.:wave:

...and I whole heartedly support it! We need you and your lack of sense to break up the often tense discussions! You are an assett...an assett I tell you!!!

 

[L Gilbert]

I've never been a fan of coffee myself...but I am a fan of religious leaders who actually question interpretations of the bible...who are open to reexamining what they believe god and jesus are actually telling them. I think that is admirable. There is nothing admirable in being so staunch in your beliefs that you won't even think of reexamining them...no matter how harmful or ill conceived or frustrating or steeped in hypocrisy they may be.

I like coffee better. It's more thirst quenching than someone's interpretations of whatever..

 

[sanctus]

Indeed not. As it should be. "perhaps" i was not referring to "him". Nice use of "quotation" marks, to point out your views of an "Anglican" bishop.

Love thy neighbor, as long as he worships the guy in Rome with the funny hat.

Bravo for catching that!

And that has nothing to do with loving Mr. Ingham. The Anglican
Communion abandoned aposotolic orders years ago, saddly enough.

 

[talloola]

My dad was catholic, and he always made little "digs' at my mother about her "snobby" high church
of england.
What exactly is the High Church of England, or is it just another name for Anglican.

 

[darkbeaver]

I don't care WHO approves of his sentiments...I commend him for saying what he has said. He is doing what I think SHOULD be done within the church more often...questioning, going to the bible and analyzing it, reexamining it, looking at the possible interpretation, wondering if what is being taught is indeed what god wants to be taught. For this I commend him. For this I admire him. I wish more religious leaders would do this. Scratch that...I feel more religous leaders MUST do this.

I'll take your word for the character of his intentions but these matters have a long history of brutal debate. Sexuality is the most sensitive area of primate developement, theology knows the subject well, a proper study of human sexuality in my opinion would be best served by anthropologist. Religious leadership has failed in this science as well. Maybe I'll read it later anyway.:wave:

 

[snfu73]

I'll take your word for the character of his intentions but these matters have a long history of brutal debate. Sexuality is the most sensitive area of primate developement, theology knows the subject well, a proper study of human sexuality in my opinion would be best served by anthropologist. Religious leadership has failed in this science as well. Maybe I'll read it later anyway.:wave:

I think regardless of the subject matter, what I admire about the man is that he is at least willing to go the scriptures, go to the bible, go to the "word" of god and reanalyze, rethink, reapproach it. He isn't just saying "We haven't changed in 2000 years, and we ain't changing now!". He asks questions. He is looking to see if there are different interpretations that can be taken from the literature...which, of course, I argue that there definitly can be. All works of literature, fiction or non fiction, are subject to interpretation....I don't see the bible as being any different. So, again, regardless of the subject, what impresses me is...the open mind...the willingness to explore...the desire to revisit. To me, this is very admirable.

 

[sanctus]

My dad was catholic, and he always made little "digs' at my mother about her "snobby" high church
of england.
What exactly is the High Church of England, or is it just another name for Anglican.

It is. The Anglican faith is an interesting one. Traditionally, it has been a form of Western Orthodoxy, that is, a body with Catholic sacraments and intentions removed from the authority of the Holy See.

I'm afraid the main Communion left the Catholic faith for good in the 1970's when they abandoned their ties to an apostolic priesthood by "ordaining" women.

However, there has always been a "low" Church and a "High" church in the faith. The high church, or Anglo-Catholics, aspire and retain full Catholic ceremonials. Walking into one of their Masses would have you checking the sign outside for certainly you'd think you had entered a Roman church! The theology is the same and the Mass is almost the same as our traditional Latin Mass.

The High Church evolved primarily from a movement in the Church of England in the late 1800's to restore Catholic theology and ceremonials to the Anglican faith.(The Oxford Movement).

There is now a Rite in the Church of Anglicans who have returned to the authority of the Pope under the term "Anglican Use Rite".

 

[talloola]

It is. The Anglican faith is an interesting one. Traditionally, it has been a form of Western Orthodoxy, that is, a body with Catholic sacraments and intentions removed from the authority of the Holy See.

I'm afraid the main Communion left the Catholic faith for good in the 1970's when they abandoned their ties to an apostolic priesthood by "ordaining" women.

However, there has always been a "low" Church and a "High" church in the faith. The high church, or Anglo-Catholics, aspire and retain full Catholic ceremonials. Walking into one of their Masses would have you checking the sign outside for certainly you'd think you had entered a Roman church! The theology is the same and the Mass is almost the same as our traditional Latin Mass.

The High Church evolved primarily from a movement in the Church of England in the late 1800's to restore Catholic theology and ceremonials to the Anglican faith.(The Oxford Movement).

There is now a Rite in the Church of Anglicans who have returned to the authority of the Pope under the term "Anglican Use Rite".

Thanks, appreciate the info., very interesting.