A simple question re: 9/11,Why would the U.S. fly planes int

[agentkgb]

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I'm left-wing, I'm against the war in Iraq, in Afghanistan, I wish Bush was out of office, etc. But if Bush wanted to use terrorist attacks to start a war, why would he risk destroying the military center of the US and miss Camp David? Certainly he didn't do enough to prevent the attacks, he gained from them, he's using it for political gain, and so on, but I don't believe the conspiracy theories.

 

[Toro]

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Watching the conspiracists come up with their theories is like watching a "C" movie.

Actually, its more like watching a XXX movie, only less believable, with a more ridiculous plot line and less attractive people.

 

[Hotshot]

Re: RE: A simple question re: 9/11,Why would the U.S. fly pl

Why would the US do that, so they'd have a reason to get rid of the people who George Bush doesn't like mainly Saddam because he attempted to kill Bush juniors dad or something to that sort and also so they'd have a reason to take the oil from the middle east. *shrugs*

Wake up, yankee. bin Laden was blamed for 9-11, not Saddam. Iraq was WMD, remember? Oh yeah, Saddam was also the man who tried to kill bush sr.. bushinski made that one personal.

 

[Logic 7]

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Point #1...

How many times have you heard that 9-11 "felt like watching a movie"?

THAT is why they went so far as to crash the planes in to the buildings.

And a very boring "B" series movie,always predictable.Those who did the plan, werent very smart.

They did not have to be smart just destructive.

Yes, Osama and al-Qaeda were very destructive, weren't they?

They were quite hard to beat ,when cia, reagan administrations and the saudis funded them, but how would they still be so strong today?? who still financially support them? .don't tell me iran, they have nothing to do with alqueada. who would profit from wars that just keep going on? military complex, weapons manufacturers, and who else?

 

[Logic 7]

Re: RE: A simple question re: 9/11,Why would the U.S. fly pl

Why would the US do that, so they'd have a reason to get rid of the people who George Bush doesn't like mainly Saddam because he attempted to kill Bush juniors dad or something to that sort and also so they'd have a reason to take the oil from the middle east. *shrugs*

Wake up, yankee. bin Laden was blamed for 9-11, not Saddam. Iraq was WMD, remember? Oh yeah, Saddam was also the man who tried to kill bush sr.. bushinski made that one personal.

Bin laden was blame for 9-11 by who?

 

[Toro]

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They were quite hard to beat ,when cia, reagan administrations and the saudis funded them, but how would they still be so strong today?? who still financially support them? .don't tell me iran, they have nothing to do with alqueada. who would profit from wars that just keep going on? military complex, weapons manufacturers, and who else?

The House of Saud, various Islamic charities, rich Arabs, etc.

 

[humanbeing]

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Apparently, the 9-11 conspiracy theorists have being going off about a left gatekeeper conspiracy, so Amy Goodman of Democracy Now, a 'left program' if you will, decided to give them some airtime for once.

She set up a 9/11 debate. The Loose Change Filmmakers vs. Popular Mechanics Editors of "Debunking 9/11 Myths"

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/09/11/1345203

It is available in both audio mp3 and video format.

 

[humanbeing]

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By the way, if you are interested in watching the video file but do not want to use Realplayer, there is a spyware free .ram video player called Real Alternative on the net.

Just google the name, and you'll be able to easily find it on a reliable site.

 

[gangstalking]

RE: A simple question re: 9/11,Why would the U.S. fly planes

Another reason fly planes into the WTC apparently people are getting rich over all the security that now has to be in place. There was an article out this week about the billion dollar contracts some companies are landing, it's big money, that's what's come out of this.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/2006-09-10-security-industry_x.htm

I guess it's true what they say, follow the money trail.

 

[humanbeing]

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Okie dokie, I just finished watching the video myself.

I gotta say, I appreciate the level of patience displayed by both James Meigs and David Dunbar. They are called liars repeatedly, but they do not respond to the insults. Rather, they consistently wait until it is their turn to speak. They come off (to me at least) as using much more reason and making much more sense.

Of course, a debate does not resolve anything. You are basically quoting people who aren't there, and presenting evidence that is usually not on hand.

That said, I am curious if anyone here can actually disprove what Meigs and Dunbar say on the program. Much of what they say destroys the conspiracy theorists' claims, or at least makes it more visible how sketchy they can be. Perhaps not coincidentally, much of what Meigs and Dunbar say is simply called lies or false by the Loose Change guys, as if Meigs and Dunbar were foolishly arguing against complete truisms (which I believe they are not).

Anyhow, I'll leave it at that for now.

 

[humanbeing]

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Yeah gangstalking, I don't doubt that security is big business these days. But that in itself is not proof that the government orchestrated the attacks.

Another reason fly planes into the WTC apparently people are getting rich over all the security that now has to be in place. There was an article out this week about the billion dollar contracts some companies are landing, it's big money, that's what's come out of this.

So if that helps to prove that there was a giant conspiracy going on and one of the reasons behind it was to make billion dollar contracts for security-related companies, then I guess this

Another reason to make up conspiracy theories about incidents that happen on 9-11 is that people are getting rich all over with their movies and books and ad-laden websites. There were a zillion sites and books done this year about a 9-11 conspiracy. It's big money for some, and that is one of the things that has come out of this.

helps to prove that the conspiracy theorists are doing all this simply to make zillions of bucks?

Of course not...(!)

 

[gangstalking]

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Watching the conspiracists come up with their theories is like watching a "C" movie.

Actually, its more like watching a XXX movie, only less believable, with a more ridiculous plot line and less attractive people.

Perhaps the none conspiracy buffs have been watching too many B,C and XXX movies to know an oscar grade plot when they see one.

Follow the trail, oil and money that is what it is always about.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/2006-09-10-security-industry_x.htm

I like to call it defered gratification. The money is rolling in for some people and that seems to have been a big part of this.

 

[Toro]

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That said, I am curious if anyone here can actually disprove what Meigs and Dunbar say on the program.

Nope.

Good work HB.

 

[humanbeing]

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I'm going to move that video debate to a new thread before this one gets sidetracked to the point of no return (if it hasn't already been).

 

[humanbeing]

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Oh, and thanx Toro.

 

[Toro]

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Follow the trail, oil and money that is what it is always about.

Theory and conjecture.

 

[Toro]

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Oh, and thanx Toro.

No problem.

It seems that this board has been bombarded by the conspiracists the last few weeks.

Here is an interview with Jim Meigs done by NPR.

 

[humanbeing]

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Thanx again, I am going to quote your last post in the new thread I have created.