A new Homeland for Quebecois

John Muff

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No wonder some may want to separate...

This thread and the responses are probably the stupidist things I've seen ever on this forum.

I agree...

I will put some spice to it... Why doe population should move based on your interests... Recalling wars and conflicts that murdered thousand's of peoples isn't being respectful of their memories in any ways... Wishing one's such hate isn't being compassionate or multicultural.

It's not having fun too..

Thank Andem to understand...

John Muff
 

s_lone

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Switzerland?...!!!

Nah... Why would we leave this territory? We are quite comfortable here. Quebec City was the first city of North America and we were here before you guys... You conquered us in 1759 but were stupid enough to let us keep our culture. Today Quebec is enjoying a nice comfy place among Canada and we actually have a strong influence on the country's evolution.

Tell me again... Why would we leave?
 

Dexter Sinister

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This thread and the responses are probably the stupidist things I've seen ever on this forum.

Yup, I'm right with you on that one. Let's give the Quebec secessionists justification for their emotional folly about nationalism, shall we, let's tell them they're a conquered and second class people who should just shut the Hell up and be grateful for whatever we give them...

Makes me queasy. It's attitudes like I see here that created the secessionist movement in the first place. You should all do some reading so you know what you're talking about, starting with Douglas Fullerton's book, The Dangerous Delusion. The Québécois do have some legitimate historical grievances, as the first chapter of that book will make perfectly clear. Most of them have been addressed and resolved since the book was written, and now they're going a little too far, so we non-Québécois Canadians also have some legitimate complaints, but the situation is much more complex and subtle than anyone who's posted here so far seems to understand. I can't pretend to understand it all either, but at least I'm trying and I know I don't fully understand. Too many of you aren't, and don't.
 

s_lone

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Yup, I'm right with you on that one. Let's give the Quebec secessionists justification for their emotional folly about nationalism, shall we, let's tell them they're a conquered and second class people who should just shut the Hell up and be grateful for whatever we give them...

Makes me queasy. It's attitudes like I see here that created the secessionist movement in the first place. You should all do some reading so you know what you're talking about, starting with Douglas Fullerton's book, The Dangerous Delusion. The Québécois do have some legitimate historical grievances, as the first chapter of that book will make perfectly clear. Most of them have been addressed and resolved since the book was written, and now they're going a little too far, so we non-Québécois Canadians also have some legitimate complaints, but the situation is much more complex and subtle than anyone who's posted here so far seems to understand. I can't pretend to understand it all either, but at least I'm trying and I know I don't fully understand. Too many of you aren't, and don't.

I agree with you Dexter... I just hope you are being careful of your judgement of people based on the answers they give on this thread... It has after all been started by General James Wolfe, who doesn't seem to be able to make sense. With people like that, its hard to give serious answers... I tend to just be very sarcastic, which is sometimes hard to discern in written text... On the other hand, the simple-mindedness of James Wolfe does seem to be contagious... he is like a dark hole of stupidity; when you get sucked into one of his debates, their is no way out!
 

I think not

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Between the latter half of the 19th century and the beginning of the 20th century, about 1 million Quebecois immigrated to the NorthEastern US. Push comes to shove they are always welcome.

General Wolfe however can shove it. :wave:
 

Dexter Sinister

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I just hope you are being careful of your judgement of people based on the answers they give on this thread...
Yes indeed. Excellent points, that's why I named no names. The little General does seem to bring out the worst in people sometimes, and as I indicated in my Christmas message thread, some posters here are clearly fools. But most are not, and I'm very mindful of what a lame way to communicate mere words can be sometimes. That's why I always think twice before accusing anyone of anything bad.

Unless I'm full of good booze, of course, but if I had that much of a load on, I probably wouldn't be co-ordinated enough to type anything anyway. :)
 

CDNBear

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Yup, I'm right with you on that one. Let's give the Quebec secessionists justification for their emotional folly about nationalism, shall we, let's tell them they're a conquered and second class people who should just shut the Hell up and be grateful for whatever we give them...

Makes me queasy. It's attitudes like I see here that created the secessionist movement in the first place. You should all do some reading so you know what you're talking about, starting with Douglas Fullerton's book, The Dangerous Delusion. The Québécois do have some legitimate historical grievances, as the first chapter of that book will make perfectly clear. Most of them have been addressed and resolved since the book was written, and now they're going a little too far, so we non-Québécois Canadians also have some legitimate complaints, but the situation is much more complex and subtle than anyone who's posted here so far seems to understand. I can't pretend to understand it all either, but at least I'm trying and I know I don't fully understand. Too many of you aren't, and don't.
Couln't agree with you more Dex, please do not confuse my bellicose behavior on this forum in regards to the Quebecois or Quebecuois mislead you.

As both a product of a French Canadian Mother and having spent the better part of my childhood in North Quebec, I do have a great understanding as to the issue, from both sides.

I have no issue with the Quebecois.

My issue is with te Quebecuois.

They are the ones that wish to force Draconian laws on all the peoples of Quebec, regardless of their wishes. It is the rights tramplers I take issue with. It is them I fear the most if Quebec were to seperate. I am terrified that the rights of my Native brothers and sisters would all, but dissappear. Look what the Quebecuois do to simular looking, but non french speaking folk, what do you think they will do to the "Red Man"? Just look back on history if you doubt the validity of my fears. Not to mention, I have my own horror stories.

btw, not only am I a Habs fan, Maurice is my idol. Gretzky eats bugs.
 

kellystone

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mars: doesnt have any liquid water
mars: doesnt have a breathable atmosphrere
mars: it is far away from every the french hate, which basically means everyone
 

MikeyDB

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Damn Right!

Get it before the U.N. and we can have Israel all over again....

Canada votes yes, America votes yes (American's aren't keen on the French or at least they werent just a while ago)...Russia and China will vote after the laghter dies down and then the rest of the world can vote... with Israel abstaining of course...
 

surlenuage

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Sorry, I didn't write this post in english. I wrote it in my everyday language, my mother tongue. I do not write as well in english as in french, I hope you'll understand.


Je ne vois pas pourquoi les québécois voudraient déménager en Suisse. D'abord, malgré que l'histoire commune entre la France et le Quebec soit celle de deux frères, jamais le Québec ne s'annexerait à un autre pays, quel qu'il soit, jamais. Parce qu'ici, nous avons notre, langue, notre mode de vie, notre culture que nul pays dans le monde ne saurait reproduire. Ensuite, contrairement à ce que celui qui a décider de démarer ce sujet disait, ce n'est pas le chocolat, ni la température, ni les banques, ni le mode de vie européen, ni la proximité des autres pays de francophonies que nous voulons. Vous l'attendez bien cette phrase, l'ultime élément qui dévoilera ce que nous voulons? Nous voulons être enfin Maitre chez Nous. Vous voyez ce coin de ce qui s'appelle Canada en se moment et qui ouvre sa gueule sur le monde, c'est nous, nous comme nos terres et comme nos yeux river vers l'horizon scrutant le prochain jour où nous pourrons enfin être chez sans nous exiler en Frances, ou en Suisse. Je ne comprends pas ce que vous avez, là dans le creux de vos mains, pour en faire pousser des poings durs. Vous me rappelez quasiment ces colons qui voulaient vider Québec de sa diversité, puis le Haut-Canada qui écrasait son bas comme on oublie les jambes qui nous portent. Vous parler de déportation, avez-vous déjà oublié l'Acadie qui a été égrainé et semé au quatre vents dans des territoires plus qu'hostiles?

Ah oui, l'une des personnes ayant participées à la conversation a aussi fait mention de la neutralité de la Suisse en disant que les québécois étaient peureux et qu'ils trouveraient l'autre continent plus douillet. Est-ce réellement parce que je suis québécois que je ne vois pas l'intérêt de mettre de l'argent dans les poches de l'armée au détriment de la santé, de l'éducation et de la dette de mes concitoyens? Avec le gouvernement concervateur que nous avons, tout ce que nous arriverons à faire est d'envenimer les relations avec les autres pays, comme la chine au premier rang. J'espère que vous n'êtes pas sincères.

Autant que je sache, c'est un forum canadien et pourtant, en tant que Canadien, vous devriez aussi vous battre très fort: nous pour la survie de notre langue et vous pour la différence toujours fuillante entre vous et notre voisin les États-Unis.

Et s'il vous plait, cessez d'appeler les États-Unis "America" c'est insulter le reste du continent en entier. Qu'est-ce qu'ils ont de plus américain de nous, nous vivons tous sur ce continent du Groendland par le Canada et les États-Unis, du Mexique et du Brésil, du Chilie jusqu'au bas de l'Amérique latine. Les nommer Américains, c'est nous nommer étranger en ce continent. Je crois même que Cuba aussi fait partie de cette section du monde.

merci d'avoir lu en entier!
 

surlenuage

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La Suisse, la Suisse...

Sorry, I didn't write this post in english. I wrote it in my everyday language, my mother tongue. I do not write as well in english as in french, I hope you'll understand.


Je ne vois pas pourquoi les québécois voudraient déménager en Suisse. D'abord, malgré que l'histoire commune entre la France et le Quebec soit celle de deux frères, jamais le Québec ne s'annexerait à un autre pays, quel qu'il soit, jamais. Parce qu'ici, nous avons notre, langue, notre mode de vie, notre culture que nul pays dans le monde ne saurait reproduire. Ensuite, contrairement à ce que celui qui a décider de démarer ce sujet disait, ce n'est pas le chocolat, ni la température, ni les banques, ni le mode de vie européen, ni la proximité des autres pays de francophonies que nous voulons. Vous l'attendez bien cette phrase, l'ultime élément qui dévoilera ce que nous voulons? Nous voulons être enfin Maitre chez Nous. Vous voyez ce coin de ce qui s'appelle Canada en se moment et qui ouvre sa gueule sur le monde, c'est nous, nous comme nos terres et comme nos yeux river vers l'horizon scrutant le prochain jour où nous pourrons enfin être chez sans nous exiler en Frances, ou en Suisse. Je ne comprends pas ce que vous avez, là dans le creux de vos mains, pour en faire pousser des poings durs. Vous me rappelez quasiment ces colons qui voulaient vider Québec de sa diversité, puis le Haut-Canada qui écrasait son bas comme on oublie les jambes qui nous portent. Vous parler de déportation, avez-vous déjà oublié l'Acadie qui a été égrainé et semé au quatre vents dans des territoires plus qu'hostiles?

Ah oui, l'une des personnes ayant participées à la conversation a aussi fait mention de la neutralité de la Suisse en disant que les québécois étaient peureux et qu'ils trouveraient l'autre continent plus douillet. Est-ce réellement parce que je suis québécois que je ne vois pas l'intérêt de mettre de l'argent dans les poches de l'armée au détriment de la santé, de l'éducation et de la dette de mes concitoyens? Avec le gouvernement concervateur que nous avons, tout ce que nous arriverons à faire est d'envenimer les relations avec les autres pays, comme la chine au premier rang. J'espère que vous n'êtes pas sincères.

Autant que je sache, c'est un forum canadien et pourtant, en tant que Canadien, vous devriez aussi vous battre très fort: nous pour la survie de notre langue et vous pour la différence toujours fuillante entre vous et notre voisin les États-Unis.

Et s'il vous plait, cessez d'appeler les États-Unis "America" c'est insulter le reste du continent en entier. Qu'est-ce qu'ils ont de plus américain de nous, nous vivons tous sur ce continent du Groendland par le Canada et les États-Unis, du Mexique et du Brésil, du Chilie jusqu'au bas de l'Amérique latine. Les nommer Américains, c'est nous nommer étranger en ce continent. Je crois même que Cuba aussi fait partie de cette section du monde.

merci d'avoir lu en entier!
 

El Barto

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Being a Quebecer , why would we want to move to Switzerland?. We can't stand the french too in general. I have to control myself not to cuff them behind the head. We are dissasociated with them pukes. It would be like calling Americans, Brits. We don't really have the same attitudes as them. Though we do have some unwanted traites. Ignorant post I think.