9/11: A Boeing 757 Struck The Pentagon

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9/11: A Boeing 757 Struck The Pentagon
AboveTopSecret.com
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Evidence That A Boeing 757 Really Did Impact the Pentagon on 9/11
I've decided the best way to do this is to state the evidence, and facts, and come to a conclusion. Everything I list here as evidence includes links to sources, names of individuals, and notes if I have added any comments or visual aids to any photos.

I may repeat some information and images in this post (from images and information previously posted), and I apologize for the length of the information, and for the size of some of the photos, but I can see no other way to provide the information without losing clarity and quality and most importantly accuracy. It is apparent that without the entire collection of evidence people quickly forget something outlined on a previous post. I will freely admit in this post that I was incorrect on some facts in my previous posts, and I will correct these mistakes here. I will also try to link every image to its original source, unless it is an image I have added comments or visual aids to.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/911_pentagon_757_plane_evidence.html


Or an alternative viewpoint to this article, visit The Pentagon Was Not Hit by a 757.

http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm


The First Link proves The Pentagon was Hit by a Boeing 757. I also posted the link that counters the Pentagon was not hit by a 757.

I suggest Reading the information on both links and decide for yourself if the Pentagon was or wasn't hit by a Boeing 757 on 9/11.
 

Kreskin

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Johnny, the 737 conspiracy theory is a long shot. I think what's happening here is the Bush Admin has not been completely upfront about the situation. Why don't they show video they would most certainly have (I believe there were 9 cameras pointed in that direction)? They appear to be hiding something which leads to speculation of every kind.

The Bush team doesn't have a stellar record for being straight (at least with the truth).
 

FiveParadox

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Good point, Kreskin.

It should be no secret, at this point, that His Excellency the Honourable George Bush, the President of the United States of America, has not been a shining beacon of transparency in terms of his administration of his country during his two terms.
 

Johnny Utah

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Re: RE: 9/11: A Boeing 757 Struck The Pentagon

Kreskin said:
Johnny, the 737 conspiracy theory is a long shot. I think what's happening here is the Bush Admin has not been completely upfront about the situation. Why don't they show video they would most certainly have (I believe there were 9 cameras pointed in that direction)? They appear to be hiding something which leads to speculation of every kind.

The Bush team doesn't have a stellar record for being straight (at least with the truth).
This isn't a Conspiracy Theory, the size of the plane is a 757 not a 737 that is important. If you read all the information on the first link it answers alot of the questions and proves a 757 did strike the Pentagon.

There was only one known Security Gate video of the plane striking the Pentagon far as I know and I believe it's pointed out in the first link.

The one question I have always asked the Conspiracy Theory Nuts is if a 757 didn't strike the Pentagon then what happen to the passengers on board? I have yet to get a straight reasonable answer.
 

Kreskin

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Re: RE: 9/11: A Boeing 757 Struck The Pentagon

Johnny Utah said:
Kreskin said:
Johnny, the 737 conspiracy theory is a long shot. I think what's happening here is the Bush Admin has not been completely upfront about the situation. Why don't they show video they would most certainly have (I believe there were 9 cameras pointed in that direction)? They appear to be hiding something which leads to speculation of every kind.

The Bush team doesn't have a stellar record for being straight (at least with the truth).
This isn't a Conspiracy Theory, the size of the plane is a 757 not a 737 that is important. If you read all the information on the first link it answers alot of the questions and proves a 757 did strike the Pentagon.

There was only one known Security Gate video of the plane striking the Pentagon far as I know and I believe it's pointed out in the first link.

The one question I have always asked the Conspiracy Theory Nuts is if a 757 didn't strike the Pentagon then what happen to the passengers on board? I have yet to get a straight reasonable answer.

I'm not arguing for the conspiracy but I did here one aerospace engineer give his theory (or perhaps more accurately provide a possibility), that planes were shot down over the Atlantic during a military exercise that was happening during the 9-11 events.
 

Kreskin

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Interesting 2 hour radio show

Johnny, if you plan to be on your pc for a couple of hours put this on. Perhaps you've heard him already. He (an aeronautical engineer/pilot) makes some very interesting observations and is very qualified to question the facts.
 

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Johnny Utah said:
9/11: A Boeing 757 Struck The Pentagon
AboveTopSecret.com
Excerpt:
Evidence That A Boeing 757 Really Did Impact the Pentagon on 9/11
I've decided the best way to do this is to state the evidence, and facts, and come to a conclusion. Everything I list here as evidence includes links to sources, names of individuals, and notes if I have added any comments or visual aids to any photos.

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First of all your first link iis a forum, secondly in this photo you clearly see that the plane's wheel that crashed into the pentagone has 8holes












In this photo , you see the wheel of a 757, which has 10 holes, which means that the plane that strike the pentagone wwas smalller than a 757.






IF there was really a 757 that crashed into the pentagone, the white house would have released those video a long time ago, but they didnt for no reason at all.
 

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However they might not be wishing to show the film of the impact since it may show somehow the way the poorly trained pilots were able to fly low into the buildings, in fear of a repeat attack on the penigon. Also if you look at it from yet another angle you don't want terrorists to learn from any mistakes these ones may have made.

Anyhow something to think about.
 

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Johnny Utah

Yer wasting your time, there was no 757, it was a missle or a drone or explosives planted into the Pentagon walls or whatever the new conspiracy fad alludes too. It's Bush's fault.
 

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Finder said:
However they might not be wishing to show the film of the impact since it may show somehow the way the poorly trained pilots were able to fly low into the buildings, in fear of a repeat attack on the penigon. Also if you look at it from yet another angle you don't want terrorists to learn from any mistakes these ones may have made.

Anyhow something to think about.


Fear of another attack on the pentagone, would be the reason why they don t show the video of the crash in the pentagone, is really funny, you can t be serious about it.

Poorly trained pilot like hani hanjour could do a 280 degree turn, fly 4 feet over the ground at 400mph and could find washington when they were away from 30 min by planes from washington is also really funny, no pilot in the world could have found washington withouth ground help from where the terrorist hijacked the plane.
 

Johnny Utah

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Re: RE: 9/11: A Boeing 757 Struck The Pentagon

Kreskin said:
Johnny Utah said:
Kreskin said:
Johnny, the 737 conspiracy theory is a long shot. I think what's happening here is the Bush Admin has not been completely upfront about the situation. Why don't they show video they would most certainly have (I believe there were 9 cameras pointed in that direction)? They appear to be hiding something which leads to speculation of every kind.

The Bush team doesn't have a stellar record for being straight (at least with the truth).
This isn't a Conspiracy Theory, the size of the plane is a 757 not a 737 that is important. If you read all the information on the first link it answers alot of the questions and proves a 757 did strike the Pentagon.

There was only one known Security Gate video of the plane striking the Pentagon far as I know and I believe it's pointed out in the first link.

The one question I have always asked the Conspiracy Theory Nuts is if a 757 didn't strike the Pentagon then what happen to the passengers on board? I have yet to get a straight reasonable answer.

I'm not arguing for the conspiracy but I did here one aerospace engineer give his theory (or perhaps more accurately provide a possibility), that planes were shot down over the Atlantic during a military exercise that was happening during the 9-11 events.
I don't think I heard that theory but it sounds beyond impossible as the Hijacked planes never flew over the Atlantic.

That theory of a Passenger Air Line being shot down by the Military over the Atlantic has been applied to TWA Flight 800 that was to have been shot down by a Missile in a Military exercise in 1996.
 

Johnny Utah

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aeon said:
Johnny Utah said:
9/11: A Boeing 757 Struck The Pentagon
AboveTopSecret.com
Excerpt:
Evidence That A Boeing 757 Really Did Impact the Pentagon on 9/11
I've decided the best way to do this is to state the evidence, and facts, and come to a conclusion. Everything I list here as evidence includes links to sources, names of individuals, and notes if I have added any comments or visual aids to any photos.

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First of all your first link iis a forum, secondly in this photo you clearly see that the plane's wheel that crashed into the pentagone has 8holes












In this photo , you see the wheel of a 757, which has 10 holes, which means that the plane that strike the pentagone wwas smalller than a 757.






IF there was really a 757 that crashed into the pentagone, the white house would have released those video a long time ago, but they didnt for no reason at all.

I know it's a forum with gathered proven facts. I'm not sure if it's up to the White House to release photos perhaps the Pentagon, and they could have their reasons not to release certain photos etc.
 

Johnny Utah

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I think not said:
Johnny Utah

Yer wasting your time, there was no 757, it was a missle or a drone or explosives planted into the Pentagon walls or whatever the new conspiracy fad alludes too. It's Bush's fault.
Your right........I'm part of Bush's Conspiracy to counter the Conspiracy damn that Bush he is so evil. :twisted:

Bush's Fault! :lol:
 

Kreskin

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Johnny Utah said:
I think not said:
Johnny Utah

Yer wasting your time, there was no 757, it was a missle or a drone or explosives planted into the Pentagon walls or whatever the new conspiracy fad alludes too. It's Bush's fault.
Your right........I'm part of Bush's Conspiracy to counter the Conspiracy damn that Bush he is so evil. :twisted:

Bush's Fault! :lol:

Bush would be the last one to know.
 

aeon

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Johnny Utah said:
I know it's a forum with gathered proven facts. I'm not sure if it's up to the White House to release photos perhaps the Pentagon, and they could have their reasons not to release certain photos etc.


That doesnt matter, your forum shows the pictures of a plane's wheel ,and those picture shows, that the plane that crashed into the pentagone has smaller wheels than a 757, means it wasnt a 757 that crashed into the pentagone.
 

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Yer wasting your time, there was no 757, it was a missle or a drone or explosives planted into the Pentagon walls or whatever the new conspiracy fad alludes too. It's Bush's fault

My best response would be this. "I think not."

As a follow up: Simplicity is often the simplest and most honest assessment of any theory.
M
 

I think not

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Retired_Can_Soldier said:
Yer wasting your time, there was no 757, it was a missle or a drone or explosives planted into the Pentagon walls or whatever the new conspiracy fad alludes too. It's Bush's fault

My best response would be this. "I think not."

As a follow up: Simplicity is often the simplest and most honest assessment of any theory.
M

You took the words right out of Chomsky's mouth. Too bad "they" never quote him on that.
 

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aeon said:
Johnny Utah said:
I know it's a forum with gathered proven facts. I'm not sure if it's up to the White House to release photos perhaps the Pentagon, and they could have their reasons not to release certain photos etc.


That doesnt matter, your forum shows the pictures of a plane's wheel ,and those picture shows, that the plane that crashed into the pentagone has smaller wheels than a 757, means it wasnt a 757 that crashed into the pentagone.

I must have missed something. I thought it was made quite clear that the rims found in the wreckage were exactly like those you would expect to find on a 757.
 

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Just the Facts said:
I must have missed something. I thought it was made quite clear that the rims found in the wreckage were exactly like those you would expect to find on a 757.


It is clear you have missed something, look at this picture, the rim has 8 holes




and this one has 10 holes in the rim








Means the plane that crashed into the pentagone was smaller than a 757.